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Topic: D.C.'s gun ban gets its day in court
cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sun 03/16/08 11:58 AM
gun laws only keep honest people from their guns not the criminals.
I am personally afraid of guns but would fire one if me or mine were threatened .I pity the fool .Let's make stricter laws in other areas like murder,armed robbery,rape etc.No parole for these a-holes so they wont be walking our streets.I'm also sure no one would be opposed to a gun safety course for beginners and non military/law enforcement personnel.I would feel better if people had a course in proper handling and storage of guns especially around children.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:23 PM




More guns, more people= more killingsohwell

Are you kidding or are you really that ignorant?
Obviously you think owning a gun protects you......laugh laugh laugh when in fact there are more killings in your part of the world than most!!! Hmmmmmmmm who is the ignorant one now bubba???laugh noway laugh
grumble WTF ????????noway

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:39 PM

Guns are a weapon no matter how you look at it.....the gun laws or lack of them due to your constitution and your rights are how those criminals got their guns in the first place~~~laugh laugh Walmart anyone???? drinker
wtf

adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:50 PM

gun laws only keep honest people from their guns not the criminals.
I am personally afraid of guns but would fire one if me or mine were threatened .I pity the fool .Let's make stricter laws in other areas like murder,armed robbery,rape etc.No parole for these a-holes so they wont be walking our streets.I'm also sure no one would be opposed to a gun safety course for beginners and non military/law enforcement personnel.I would feel better if people had a course in proper handling and storage of guns especially around children.


now this was the best post as of yet

to jax

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adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:51 PM
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

— That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world

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****WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THE GOVT ACOUNTABL AND ENFORCE THE DECALRATION OF INDEPENDANCE

ENTER THE 2ND AMMENDMENT

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U.S. Constitution: Second Amendment

Second Amendment - Bearing Arms

Amendment Text | Annotations

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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DEFINITIONS

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Main Entry: in•fringe
Pronunciation: in-'frinj
Function: verb
Inflected Forms: in•fringed; in•fring•ing
Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- in + frangere to break
transitive verb : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed —U.S. Constitution amendment II>; especially : to violate a holder's rights under (a copyright, patent, trademark, or trade name) intransitive verb : ENCROACH —in•fring•er noun
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

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to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another

en•croach (n-krch)
intr.v. en•croached, en•croach•ing, en•croach•es
1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land.
2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland.
3. Football To commit encroachment.

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peo•ple (ppl)
n. pl. people
1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers: People were dancing in the street. I met all sorts of people.
2. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality.
3. pl. peo•ples A body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life.
4. Persons with regard to their residence, class, profession, or group: city people.
5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the: "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes" Thomas Jefferson.
6. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the.
7. Persons subordinate to or loyal to a ruler, superior, or employer: The queen showed great compassion for her people.
8. Family, relatives, or ancestors.
9. Informal Animals or other beings distinct from humans: Rabbits and squirrels are the furry little people of the woods

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people

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SO IF THE GOVT INFRINGES (see DEFINITIONS)

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE (SEE DEFINITIONS)

TO BEAR ARMS

WHO IS GOING TOENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
WHEN THE GOVT BEGINS ABUSING THEIR POWERS

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

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AND BEGIN RESTRICTING THE

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men

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WHO WILL STEP IN AND REMOVE THE

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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

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AND INSTITUTE THE NEW GOVT

DO YOU THINK THE GOVT IS GOING TO DO IT

IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE

AND TO DO SO THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ARMED

AN UNARMED PEOPLE ARE SLAVE TO THOSE IN POWER

AND THE GOVT ARE THE MASTERS

WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE

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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,


Single_Rob's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:52 PM

Guns are a weapon no matter how you look at it.....the gun laws or lack of them due to your constitution and your rights are how those criminals got their guns in the first place~~~laugh laugh Walmart anyone???? drinker

yeah, yeah, just like the english tried to ban the longbow so many centuries ago. Unarmed people are subjects, not people. We are a republic, not a kingdom. Thank you or your insight, but you are incorrect. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, just like in the uk, australia, and canada

adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:55 PM


Guns are a weapon no matter how you look at it.....the gun laws or lack of them due to your constitution and your rights are how those criminals got their guns in the first place~~~laugh laugh Walmart anyone???? drinker

yeah, yeah, just like the english tried to ban the longbow so many centuries ago. Unarmed people are subjects, not people. We are a republic, not a kingdom. Thank you or your insight, but you are incorrect. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, just like in the uk, australia, and canada


and rob dif you know gun crime per capita ishigher in canada

and the uk than in the states

you would think that would teach some one some thing

would you not

drinker drinker drinker drinker

toastedoranges's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:57 PM

laugh I took her hateful old @zz off my friends listlaugh


good for you, bubba

Single_Rob's photo
Sun 03/16/08 12:58 PM



Guns are a weapon no matter how you look at it.....the gun laws or lack of them due to your constitution and your rights are how those criminals got their guns in the first place~~~laugh laugh Walmart anyone???? drinker

yeah, yeah, just like the english tried to ban the longbow so many centuries ago. Unarmed people are subjects, not people. We are a republic, not a kingdom. Thank you or your insight, but you are incorrect. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, just like in the uk, australia, and canada


and rob dif you know gun crime per capita ishigher in canada

and the uk than in the states

you would think that would teach some one some thing

would you not

drinker drinker drinker drinker

yes sir, I sure did. When you take away a persons god given right to protect themselves, and their family you have efectively castrated them, and left them to the mercy of wolves. Well I am not a sheep, and I am prepared to die a free man rather than serve as a subject

adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:01 PM
well rob when it happens i will be right beside ya man

Single_Rob's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:04 PM

well rob when it happens i will be right beside ya man
you, me and 40 million other americans. We are one of the last outposts in the world for being free, and it is slipping. Half the gun owners will join us, the other half will not. I am me, I will always be me, and no crusty socialist in a 3 piece power suit is going to take that away from me

adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:04 PM
yes i did say when not if

cause most people do not think past their nose any more

***this is a general remark not aimed at anyone***

and it will happen

adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:05 PM


well rob when it happens i will be right beside ya man
you, me and 40 million other americans. We are one of the last outposts in the world for being free, and it is slipping. Half the gun owners will join us, the other half will not. I am me, I will always be me, and no crusty socialist in a 3 piece power suit is going to take that away from me


you forgot to add *hypocritical* in there

Single_Rob's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:08 PM



well rob when it happens i will be right beside ya man
you, me and 40 million other americans. We are one of the last outposts in the world for being free, and it is slipping. Half the gun owners will join us, the other half will not. I am me, I will always be me, and no crusty socialist in a 3 piece power suit is going to take that away from me


you forgot to add *hypocritical* in there

if I added every pertinent term that would apply to these people it would kill this sites bandwidth

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:11 PM
smokin We dont REALLY have any rights anymore.smokin The courts can make you do anything.smokin We just think we have rights.smokin

adj4u's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:13 PM
it is getting there

ya aint seen nothin yet

thank you patriot act

toastedoranges's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:14 PM

it is getting there

ya aint seen nothin yet

thank you patriot act


yes, thank you patriot act. thank you bush for using a term that makes those who oppose it look like traitors to america, but that's how they roll. you're either with us or against us

Single_Rob's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:15 PM
it will get worse, but things are finally beginning to mobilize. the very strategy they are using to break us into submission is backfiring. They didn't wait quite long enough to initiate it. Thigs will happen, and it will not be pretty

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:15 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sun 03/16/08 01:18 PM

it is getting there

ya aint seen nothin yet

thank you patriot act
flowerforyou Its already thereflowerforyou It just aint happened to you yetflowerforyou

gardenforge's photo
Sun 03/16/08 01:18 PM
What I am saying Gypsy is that a total restriction on guns in Washington D. C. did not cause the murder rate to go down, for several years it was the highest in the Nation. So tell me again how more guns + more people = more killing when a total ban on guns led to the highest murder rate in the nation several years running.

Try the math on this more people + ban on guns = more ane easier victims for the criminals.

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