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Topic: Hillary's Buddy Involved in Prostitution Ring
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Tue 03/11/08 04:13 PM



I understood it yank!

What I find hard to understand is why anyone would vote for Hillary!!!noway noway noway


oh oh....if you understood it I got more problems that I thought...laugh laugh


so what does each candidate stand for...you must know since you have no understanding why anyone would vote for Clinton....


Hillary is a corporate sell-out!drinker

Wow??? REALLY????? noway Gosh...and where is the golden child politician who isnt??????

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Tue 03/11/08 04:14 PM
John Edwards dropped out!!!

Hey symbelmyneflowerforyou

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Tue 03/11/08 04:18 PM
Yo fanta...! you know there is a great jingle over here about fanta...
Hey did you know that Yank wants to do the neo-con "push in the bush" with me????
He's dying for it....
:wink:

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Tue 03/11/08 04:22 PM

Yo fanta...! you know there is a great jingle over here about fanta...
Hey did you know that Yank wants to do the neo-con "push in the bush" with me????
He's dying for it....
:wink:


I believe it..

Too bad the button available to Canadians is our back door bell!!

Damn thing just keeps ringing and ringing!
Its irritating as hell.

You'd think he would get the hint that nobody's going to answer it!!laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 03/11/08 04:34 PM


Yo fanta...! you know there is a great jingle over here about fanta...
Hey did you know that Yank wants to do the neo-con "push in the bush" with me????
He's dying for it....
:wink:


I believe it..

Too bad the button available to Canadians is our back door bell!!

Damn thing just keeps ringing and ringing!
Its irritating as hell.

You'd think he would get the hint that nobody's going to answer it!!laugh laugh laugh

where's the "thumbs up" smiley???
drinker

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Tue 03/11/08 04:36 PM
drinker drinker
Thats the best it gets!!laugh drinker drinker

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Tue 03/11/08 10:26 PM


Public school taught me how to use a dictionarydrinker



nar·cis·sism (närsĭ-sĭz′əm) also nar·cism (-sĭz′əm)
n.


1. Excessive love or admiration of oneself. See Synonyms at conceit.
2. A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.
3. Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one's own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.
4. The attribute of the human psyche charactized by admiration of oneself but within normal limits.


According to Sam Vaknin, "Narcissists are an elusive breed, hard to spot, harder to pinpoint, impossible to capture. Even an experienced mental health diagnostician with unmitigated access to the record and to the person examined would find it fiendishly difficult to determine with any degree of certainty whether someone suffers from an impairment, i.e., a mental health disorder � or merely possesses narcissistic traits, a narcissistic personality structure ('character'), or a narcissistic 'overlay' superimposed on another mental health problem."

Here is more input:


They are the biggest liars you've ever seen. They will look you right in your eyes, swear on a stack of bibles and tell you the biggest lie you've ever heard. They will say they're not going to do something, while plotting to do just what they say they wouldn't do. They're very out of touch with their feelings. They talk just to hear themselves talk - while not believing anything they're trying to convince you of.

It will become obvious very soon: an over-inflated ego. Astonishing lies. Exaggerated emotion.

The old adage "if its too good to be true then it usually is" applies directly to narcissists.

On first meeting a narcissist will engage you directly with their eyes, then they will move away from you. They will make you feel unique and that because they have such a grandiose sense of self worth then their attentions on you also reflect your worth. They will initially flatter you in a way that can be quite embarassing. e.g, "I made you blush," "No you didn't," "Yes I did. Look you've gone all pink." A narcissist projects an air of his own self importance. His facade is well cultivated. The very second you construe a behaviour that is immoral in anyway and he/she uses an excuse to justify the behaviour that is in itself immoral then you most likely are in the presence of a naracissist.

How can you recognize a narcissist? I would say look at his family. His family, like ours, is a springboard of verbal and emotional abuse. He treats himself to everything, but his family has financial restrictions. He doesn't participate in caretaking or nurturning, however he is quite availiable to condemn, criticize and complain. The only great ideas are his, and the only valid purchases are those he justifies. He brags about how smart, healthy, talented and unique he is, but fails to appreciate everyone around him. He even puts his children down to elevate his own ego, and truly fails to appreciate what he so boldly steps on. There is no empathy, only exaggerated self emotion, self importance and self concern. You will have no peace living with a NPD, but removing him from your family's lives is no easier with this knowledge. Before you know it, you are entwined and smothered in his oppression, gasping for air for you and your family. I think a N is like toxic waste, there is no way to remain healthy while one is in your life.

A narcissist is, at first glance, a friendly, real person. This is the narcissist's bait. The person lures people in, only to control them, in any shape ore form. You will not recognize this, but as time progresses, you will feel guilty. The most important thing to recognize is that you need to live your own life and not be controlled by a narcissist. They steal your relationships with people and haunt your feelings. They are a very special, wicked breed of people, who get away with what they do. My advice: be careful with who you meet; don't be misled.

They will relate to the problems in your life, claiming that something very similar has happened to them. They make it sound like they and they alone truely understand and relate to you. They get you to share very personal things and make you feel like you've found someone who has been through what you have been through. And it's very comforting.

It is difficult at first since they try to charm. Some possibilities: They have no sense of humor ... They manipulate and control ... They do not have a significant number of long-term relationships ... Their eyes have no soul They talk but only to hear themselves; dominate conversations ... They try to give people their opinions ... They love attention ... They are cheap ... This person's close friends have begun to assume some of their characteristics but don't hide them in front of you because they are not activley trying to manipulate you (yet)


Benign narcissist are usually just braggarts. Malignant narcissist have subtle ways of cutting down other people. I am always surprised at their ability to brainwash people. Here are some of them I noticed, but I'm sure there are plenty more tricks they use out there. Everything they say is exaggeration, deception or lie. Everyone word out of their mouth is 1) self praise or, 2)cut someone or some group down. Biggest clue is that when they get done talking to you, you are left with a negative impression of someone, but the N never came right out and said anything directly. Train yourself to become aware as soon as you think someting negative about someone. You didn't really think it up yourself. It was planted. So be on the look out for sudden bad lighting on someone.

Narcissists are by definition liars. They appear to be something they are not. They seem educated, confidant, charming, and social. They are master manipulators and total control freaks. They have no emotions and are void of empathy. They feel for no one but themselves. They are a bottomless pit that is never satisfied. They are incapable of giving and receieving true love. They think they are better than everyone else, always right and never wrong, and their way is always the best way to do anything. They love attention. They think only of themselves, but make you think they are thinking of your best intrests. They dont mind buying you lavish gifts as long as they do not have to give of themselves, especially their time. Their time is precious to them and you do not deserve any of their time unless it is to their benefit. You exist solely to please them. To them, you are less than human, you are not worthy of their mere presence.

Constant talking and praising of herself while putting others down. She always has the better recipe, has eaten a better meal than you a serving her, knows more about any topic than you do, and when she is unfamliar with the topic insists on immediately changing the topic. Forgets her friends and families birthdays, and doesn't care about it; while at the same time expecting huge parties and lavish gifts for her own birthday. Lies easily, and with such ease that it is difficult to detect, since it is so common. Always wants more from you; you could never give enough. When people call her a "princess" she thinks it is a compliment. Competes with people on every dimension; if you are sick, you should feel sorry for HER since she feels bad that you are sick. Never goes out of her way for anyone, even a dying "best" friend. Thinks she is entitled to everything in the world; does not expect to earn anything. You can tell when she is on the phone with anyone, since the other party is limited to saying "uh huh" or the like. She never asks people about their interests, and doesn't care what they do. Her children's accomplishments are only valuable to the extent she can boast about them to other people. She dominates (or tries to) any social gathering. She has no intimate knowledge of another human being. She sees herself as extremely talented and extraordinarily bright, more than most of the world. She expects gain with no effort. She has no empathy with other people.

Unfortunately you dont really detect anything until they have made sure your hooked. But I can list the most obvious traits I had in my nightmarish experience. 1. Will lie blatantly whilst looking you directly in the eyes. 2. Will lie about who they are, what they do, and even what they had for breaky if they feel like it. 3. It's all about them and their problems and their needs all the time, if you try to tell them about you....a look of disinterest will appear on their faces...and they lead it back to them. 4. Your emotions and feelings and needs mean nothing...you are only there for their needs...end of story. 5.Their moods and emotions are extreme...and one night they can be crying and sobbing and (sucking you dry for support) and the next day they havnt a worry in the world. 6.They will push and push for what they want until you succumb to their wishes or needs regardless of how you feel about it. 7.They have to be with people and are terrified of their parents dying and leaving them (if of course the parents are supplying something they need). 8. They are never at fault, and even if they say it once or twice that they are...its only words to make them seem more human. 9. When they find other better fresher supplies of attention...you will become non existant, until they may need you again one day when they may just rear their heads again and try and suck you back in. 10. They will be nice as pie to your face and turn around and tell the next person they see and say you are nothing to them. 11. They are master manipulators and use any information they have on you to control you and get them what they want. 12. Their emotions are shallow and have no meaning and everyone in their lives are nothing but a source of attention. 13. They say things that are so out there that you think they have gone to another planet.




You are off topic. We are not talking about Hillary.

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Tue 03/11/08 10:47 PM
Lindyy says:

NO frog legs for dinner and NO warts! Thanks guys. Geez, can't turn my back for a minute.laugh

Heard that Spitzer has been doing his thing with prostitution rings for 6-7 years. Guess there is more in the complaint filed that keeps coming out.

I do feel badly for the three daughters though. The wife, well, since it has been going on that long, from my own personal experience, she had to have known, and chose to stay. On one hand I give her credit, on the other, she only harmed herself and her three daughters by sticking around and/or not asking him to get some help for the sake of their marriage.

Now that I stop and think about it, it is a wonder someone from the 'underground' did not go after him. He was so (at least to the public) adamant about cleaning up prostitution rings and crime, yet the whole time he was deeply involved in it himself. Led a rather risky life, I would say.

Lindyy
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Tue 03/11/08 10:59 PM
wow. A ten page thread because a democrat got caught cheating on his wife, and now its the minions to the rescue?

When ever a republican screws up, even a little bit, dems come out of the wood work screaming for the head and claiming that all republicans are the same as him/she- so can i have his head? I DO NOT CARE THAT HE GOT LAID BY A PROSTITUTE!!!! I do care that he jailed people(imprisoned, took away their freedom) who were doing the same thing as him. He is a hypocrit and a liar, and if his wife doesnt leave him standing out in the cold then she is a fool.

IM TIRED OF THE DUDLEY DO RIGHT CAN DO NO WRONG POLITICIANS saying one thing and doing another, hell if anything he should go to jail just for that, make room for others as well.

it is illegal in both the state of new york and the district of columbia, therefore, it is illegal. dont do it. keep your pants on and wait until you get home. anyone defending him or his actions is a moronical idiot!!

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Tue 03/11/08 11:51 PM
10 pages of this crap..

and all I want to know is:

Does she Spitzer Swallows?

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Wed 03/12/08 02:37 AM

Yo fanta...! you know there is a great jingle over here about fanta...
Hey did you know that Yank wants to do the neo-con "push in the bush" with me????
He's dying for it....
:wink:



Hey, quit the references to sex. You are going to give people the impression that this is a sex thread. laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 03/12/08 02:41 AM

Lindyy says:

NO frog legs for dinner and NO warts! Thanks guys. Geez, can't turn my back for a minute.laugh

Heard that Spitzer has been doing his thing with prostitution rings for 6-7 years. Guess there is more in the complaint filed that keeps coming out.

I do feel badly for the three daughters though. The wife, well, since it has been going on that long, from my own personal experience, she had to have known, and chose to stay. On one hand I give her credit, on the other, she only harmed herself and her three daughters by sticking around and/or not asking him to get some help for the sake of their marriage.

Now that I stop and think about it, it is a wonder someone from the 'underground' did not go after him. He was so (at least to the public) adamant about cleaning up prostitution rings and crime, yet the whole time he was deeply involved in it himself. Led a rather risky life, I would say.

Lindyy
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Lindyy.....

One of the newspapers said he spent $80,000 on pay for play. And you are right in that the wife probably knew about him and his prostitutes. One of the pundits on cable brought that out and gave the same reasoning you did. When you mention 'underground,' what/who are you talking about? Do you mean to say it is a wonder he wasn't blackmailed?

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Wed 03/12/08 05:38 AM
When ever a republican screws up


how do you know he was on the bottom....have you got pictures?..bigsmile

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Wed 03/12/08 05:48 AM

When ever a republican screws up


how do you know he was on the bottom....have you got pictures?..bigsmile



northrn yanke...........

You are sooooooo bad! Oh, geez, how can I hollar at someone who is so funny? bigsmile

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Wed 03/12/08 08:33 AM


When ever a republican screws up


how do you know he was on the bottom....have you got pictures?..bigsmile



northrn yanke...........

You are sooooooo bad! Oh, geez, how can I hollar at someone who is so funny? bigsmile


oh...so he's funny, but Im naughty??? Leah....your bipartisanship is showing..laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 03/12/08 09:11 AM
Underground - Maffia? People running the prostitution rings, all the 'cleaning up' he was supposed to have done? He really is walking on thin ice.

Just my observations.

Lindyy

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Wed 03/12/08 09:14 AM

Underground - Maffia? People running the prostitution rings, all the 'cleaning up' he was supposed to have done? He really is walking on thin ice.

Just my observations.

Lindyy



I'm wondering if he wasn't in bed with just the call girls..was he cleaning up one side of the street so the other side ends up owning both sides?..huh

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Wed 03/12/08 09:35 AM
gee, I wonder who this reminds me of...

"They have no sense of humor ... They manipulate and control ... They do not have a significant number of long-term relationships ... Their eyes have no soul They talk but only to hear themselves; dominate conversations ... They try to give people their opinions ... They love attention ... They are cheap ..."


laugh laugh

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Wed 03/12/08 09:41 AM


Underground - Maffia? People running the prostitution rings, all the 'cleaning up' he was supposed to have done? He really is walking on thin ice.

Just my observations.

Lindyy



Lindyy:

Are you naive enough to think that underground crime is stopable? Afterall it is what this country was founded on. Giving small pox to the Native Americans to steal their land... ring any bells for you? Underground crmie is what built the first major cities, then people left, and started other cities, only to have those corupt also. The Mayflower was full of criminals, they were banished to this country in order to rid other countries of those they did not want. I love when I hear people boast about having heritage on the Mayflower.... It makes me laugh out loud. We are a materialistic, money hungry, self centered driven society. But that's OK, toot your arrogant horn.....Oh Lindyy on a stick... nevermind, you wouldn't get the jist of this story anyway....

Lily..



Lindyy says:

Lily, it is so funny reading your comments. Honestly. Perhaps you need more sleep. You come up with some pretty wild comments. I cannot take your post seriously.:tongue:

Lindyy
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Wed 03/12/08 09:51 AM



gee, I wonder who this reminds me of...

"They have no sense of humor ... They manipulate and control ... They do not have a significant number of long-term relationships ... Their eyes have no soul They talk but only to hear themselves; dominate conversations ... They try to give people their opinions ... They love attention ... They are cheap ..."


laugh laugh


I have a huge sense of humor.. I laugh at you daily, so do the 3 other people who emailed me about you....laugh laugh laugh


LIl,

You act like a little school girl "I'm going to tell my daddy on you." So you have 3 other people e-mailing you? YIPPEE!!laugh laugh laugh


Lindyy
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Lindyy:

It's funny how you pick and choose what you read, and who you "allow" to do and say what. I however expect that from you, it is part of your charm I believe.

Lily
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