on the troops to vietnam thing,,,,, who was the president during 1954 that initially sent troops there to advise? oh, ok. thanks

son we went to war because there were financial interests that needed to be fullfilled. Regardless of the human cost.
It has always hapenned, it happens, and it will always happen.

I smell hippy liberal BS

lonely...it's wrong to lie to your son...

you are right my friend, It's so wrong to lie to a child.
However, I was not lying.
Wars always serve a financial purpose.
In medieval times they were conquering land so they could tax the people.
WW1 and WW2 were initiated to gain territory, therefore there was a financial interest.
And so on...
Now this government is disguising the war with the freedom BS, but then again there are financial interests in the middle.

thanks for the offer but I'll pick my friends...and please tell me how the US gov is gaining financially off of this war...

the government represents the tax payers. and the tax payers are financing the war. therefore, the government is not financially gaining anything.
However, those private corporations that produce war related materials and products are the ones who are making money.
Boeing for instance.

so what about the expense of weaponry and supplies for the men and women...where does that money come from?...seems to me like that would come from taxes...wouldn't that mean taxes would have to go up or other cutbacks in spending. And if it's the private corps making the money did they ask the gov the start the war?

I just wonder why the social security adminsitration is running out of funds?
why the health care is getting more and more expensive?
why we have to many homeowners going to foreclosure?
a lot of tax money is going towards war, instead to the people.
but what the heck you know freedom is more importangt.

so wait a second...are you now saying that instead of financially gaining on wars the war is actually costing money...so I guess the war wasn't started for financial purposes huh..and yes I agree freedom is far more important..

what is freedom?
the ability of this country to do whatever they want in other countries?

funny how facts become rhetoric bull****



for real? you have to know that's utter crap. our troops shouldn't be in harms way for this crap. supporting our troops is wishing them safety and to return home in one piece, not the support of the war.



yeah ok, try not paying your taxes.

i wish i could

The war has served to transfer wealth from our treasury to private interests, it is no coincidence that the greatest recipients have been Halliburton and the oil industry

that was cute but I am not the one running around with a gun in someone elses country, I am not an invader or fighting an imoral war and then trying to delude myself I am doing some good

Doc:

I think you missed my earlier post, here it is:

LINDYY'S RESEARCH FOUND THAT US INVOLVEMENT IN VIETNAM GOES BACK TO DEMOCRAT HARRY S. TRUMAN:

First Indochina War, International Control Commission, The United States and the Vietnam War#Timeline: Harry S. Truman and the Vietnam War (1945–1953), and The United States and the Vietnam War#Timeline: Dwight D. Eisenhower and the Vietnam War (1953–1961)

In 1950, the U.S. Military Assistance and Advisory Group (MAAG) arrived to screen French requests for aid, advise on strategy and train Vietnamese soldiers.[10] By 1954, the U.S. had supplied 300,000 small arms and spent one billion dollars in support of the French military effort. The Eisenhower administration was shouldering 80% of the cost of the war (NO troops).[11] The Viet Minh received crucial support from the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China. Chinese support in the Border Campaign of 1950 allowed supplies to come from China into Vietnam. Throughout the conflict, U.S. intelligence estimates remained skeptical of French chances of success.[12]The Battle of Dien Bien Phu marked the end of French involvement in Indochina.


But South Vietnamese governmental incompetence was at the core of the crisis.[46] Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow recommended that U.S. troops be sent to South Vietnam disguised as flood relief workers. Kennedy rejected the idea but increased military assistance yet again. In April 1962, John Kenneth Galbraith warned Kennedy of the "danger we shall replace the French as a colonial force in the area and bleed as the French did."[47] By mid-1962, the number of U.S. military advisers in South Vietnam had risen from 700 to 12,000.

Kennedy had introduced helicopters to the war and created a joint U.S.-South Vietnamese Air Force, staffed with American pilots. He also sent in the Green Berets. He was succeeded by Vice-President Lyndon B. Johnson, who reaffirmed America's support of South Vietnam. By the end of the year Saigon had received $500 million in military aid.

In February, 1965, the Viet Cong attacked an American military base near Pleiku. Using the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, President Johnson sent in 3,500 Marines, the first official troops, to South Vietnam. By the end of the year, there were 200,000 US troops in Vietnam.


The U.S. never officially declared war. About the closest thing you can point to is the "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution" passed in August 1964, which gave President Johnson free reign to escalate the war in Vietnam. U.S. military advisors had been training & advising the South Vietnamese Army since 1955.


No, this picture is NOT me, but his international group, IL DIVO, supports our troops and performed for them. The picture of Il Divo with our troops in Iraq is in my profile.

Lindyy,

Lyndy did you read the recently released formally classified documents on the Gulf of Tonkin? it turns out it was a big fat lie

yes your doing good for the terrorists....they pray to Allah for the support you and other like you give to them....

President Kennedy was the one who ordered the assassination of Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam.