I just finished watching an episode of "The Universe" on TV. They talked of dark matter and dark energy being formed along with everything else at the instant of the "Big Bang". But can anyone tell me what exploded in the big bang that created everything out of nothing?

IDK I watch those shows and find them fascinating tho

Thats a heck of a question!

You'll get plenty of views I am sure. But I will stick with Einstein who said something like "there had to be a "master designer" in all of this (meaning the earth, the unviverse, etc)". Although he did not state "God" it runs along those lines. I personally believe there is a "God" who created and designed all of this we se,know and still have no clues about.

Something like the "Big Bang" and everything we see coming together as "happenstance", thats just not logical even from a scientific standpoint. Way too many thing we are even now just finding out about, that all reproduces after itself, etc, etc. Way too much for it not to be "designed" with purpose..not happenstance.

Just my opinion.

You might be interested in reading some of Fred Alan Wolf's books. He's not an astronomer, but he's a world renowned physicist and he's one brilliant S.O.B.

I am not a scientist, so I will explain in layman's terms. There was a ball of matter and for no apparent reason, it exploded, thus explaining the universe. All the matter that was in the universe was in this big ball. Over billions and trillions of years everything in the universe eventually gets drawn into the center of the universe where there is this ball of matter. Eventually, this ball of matter explodes sending everything out into the universe. Stars and planets form and then they all travel out from the center of the universe. Sooner or later, they run out of momentum and gravity causes them to be sucked back into the universe. This cycle repeats itself over and over into infinity. In theory there could have been a dozen big bangs that occurred over trillions of years.

The other version is that once upon a time there was God and He decided to create the universe.

Dark matter/ energy are just terms used to describe phenom. we don't yet understand. I'm not completly up on all the formation of mass, but it has to do with gass explosions. Make no mistake, there was only one big bang in our universe, it will continue expanding until it can't expand anymore and then the big crunch (also called big squeeze) happens, stars will die off without new ones forming and everything will freeze over right before it becomes a singularity again. Maybe it will bang again and form a new universe, according to m theory that's very likely. I only wish I could watch it all happen;^]

What are your credentials that you can refute what I say and say unequivocally that there was only one big bang and according to your theory, there might be another. I identified myself up front noting that I am not a scientist.

Yes, there may be another, but not in our universe, that would make a new universe. Multiple big bangs in a single universe seems a bit of a paradox, the big crunch would have to happen first which would freeze & crush all matter within before returning to a singularity state, and again that would not be our universe but the formation of a new one. According to m theory the big bang was created by colliding universes, so just like stars every universe should have a cycle that begins and ends, nothing lasts forever;^]

turtlepoet.... you didn't answer my question. What are your credentials? Okay, I get it. Your non-anwer is that you have none.

Oh, because I have to have a degree in physics to study in my free time? Don't believe me, but ask those who do have the degree & you'll get the same answer. Oh and btw, there is no "center" of the universe either, it's always expanding and thus no center;^]

There is always a center. Sure it moves because of expansion, but there is always a center.

One idea is that it is a recurring phenomena. Over a LONG period of time. The bang happens, the matter is continuing on this outward path. We are still in the blast phase traveling outward. It will reach a point that the outward path finally stops, and it all starts falling back inward. When enough matter reaches the center again, to create a heavy enough mass, it trigger another Big Bang and it will start over again.

I think there is a flaw in this. But my astronomy is pretty basic. If it obvious to me, why not to people with a lot of knowledge? This is it.

When a celestial body has enough mass, it becomes a sun, when a sun is big enough it is a giant. When it is big enough and old enough, it become a red giant, when it starts collapsing on itself because of mass it becomes a white dwarf star. When it reaches a critical mass, it becomes so heavy and has such a force of gravity it becomes a black hole.

Wouldn't the giant mass that forms at the center of the universe do this instead of another Big Bang?

Of course, my knowledge could be flawed. That's just what I've picked up from PBS documentaries and science shows over the years.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/centre.html

You don't have to have a degree to study.

You do have to realize that you can't just say there is no center as a statement of fact.

There are different schools of thought on it. These are ALL theories and you follow and agree with that theory.

Personally, I have a lot of questions about these things. Which is why I've recently started reading up and learning about Quantum Physics.

I bought several books last year and am only now getting around to properly studying them. So I'm not sure where I stand yet.

But you can't another person is 'wrong' as a fact because that person follows a different theory. You can say you disagree because you follow a differing theory.

The first leads to confrontation and arguments.

The second leads to interesting discussions on science and theory and allows people to think and contemplate things, it challenges people to look into things and learn more for themselves.

The scientific community is pretty much in agreement that there is no center, Einsteins "theory" says there is no center. And multiple big bangs in a single universe, as I said is a physics paradox. Understand theory is not just an educated guess, that would be a hypothisis, a theory has been measured and shown to be accurate;^]

As but a theory is something that HAS NOT been proven. It is not a law. It is not known to be true. It is just what we are operating under as an assumption to be true because it is the closest fit. And it does not necessarily answer all the issues are going on. But since it answers most, it will be used until something comes along that fits better.

Which is where the quantum physicists come in. Trying to find something that resolves some of the issues and holes in Einstein's theories and traditional physics that have yet to be resolved.

Which is why I'm studying them, rather than the traditionalist.

Do you mean quantum mechanics? Quantum mechanics governs the small things, particles and such. It's not law only because we can't actualy watch it happen, but really are you going to argue the general theory of relativity? It's not an assumption, an expanding static universe has no center, that's relativity. Where are these astro physicists who argue multiple big bangs in a single universe or a "center" within?;^]

Forge you went and did it didnt you. All of the sudden this place is filled with all kinds of academic goliaths.

The FACT of the matter is much more easy to understand......

No one knows, NOBODY I dont care if you think that you have a 250 IQ.

To believe in the once upon a time GOD theory as lil miss leahmarie condesended to is a matter of faith.

To believe that 2 particle crashed together and exploded into everything is ALSO a matter of FAITH. it is conjecture at best and even scientist themselves state THEORY.

There are many theories whether they stem from the compression of space at a single point to cause an explosion or string theory as the smallest matter etc etc etc.

I am a firm believer in only stating the facts as PROVEN by science, but also understand that science can not explain everything.

Im content in knowing that whatever it was caused by is so far and above my own comprehension that I/we will never TRUELY know the facts.


Doc

p.s. Im rooting for it was the god of dennis who said hell with it lets put some egomaniacs on a planet give them everything they need to survive and watch them question my abilities. and oh yeah I am an agnostic.

peace.

That's a bit of misconceptions about the big bang, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html

Not so much a matter of faith, we actualy have evidence of the big bang and can measure it. Thanks to radio astronomy we can even hear the remnants of it. Faith is belief without evidence, though not "proovable" since we can't actualy turn back the clock (yet) and watch it, the evidence of the big bang is overwhelming;^]

Credentials?? You have any?? I don't, but I think the person I agree with had a few...his name was Albert Einstein.

I think he was a little bit known in the scientific world. maybe not near as much as you, but thats another story.