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| Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer - part 2 | |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Sun 01/27/08 02:11 PM
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Have fun all just sending some love to dragoness.....  feral  I think I may be feeling it now Back at ya
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She may have fallen asleep waiting on funches
 ZZZZZZ
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Edited by
iamgeorgiagirl
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Sun 01/27/08 02:17 PM
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Maybe he accepted my answer and closed the thread
zzz
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the original question doesn't ask why God is magnificent to you.. the original question ask if the universe didn't pop out of nothingness and had to have been created does that same logic applies to the creator and if the answer is "NO" then explain "WHY NOT" with a rational explanation if the universe didn't pop out of nothingness and had to have been created does that same logic apply to the creator? answer no and if the answer is "NO" then explain "WHY NOT" with a rational explanation no that same logic does not have to apply to the creator regardless of how the universe was created. ..er.. "imageorgiagirl" ..you forgot to explain rationally "WHY NOT" The answer is still no...and The other rational explaination is... because no one in the flesh at this time can prove/disprove that The Creator of the universe has a creator, nor can they prove/disprove that the Creator exists nor can anyone prove/disprove that The Creator or the universe have anything to do with the other.  Oh and not only that no one can prove/disprove that the universe did/didn't pop out of nothingness...
 Thought I'd put it all together for ya' funches...
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Wow, you do have a heck of imagination (yes, I'm kidding).
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Edited by
iamgeorgiagirl
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Sun 01/27/08 02:25 PM
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He's making my brain work 
I feel like I am waiting to find out if I got an A or an F on my philosophy test..... |
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That is something he does do well!
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Have fun all just sending some love to dragoness..... feral I think I may be feeling it now Back at ya
Well golly ding dang 
This is a beautiful thing 
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Edited by
iamgeorgiagirl
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Sun 01/27/08 02:32 PM
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Well crap funches....I guess I'll have to do something while I am waiting...just for giggles and comments what do ya'll think of this poem I wrote?
My Dear Daddy To My Daddy My nights are dark; my days are dim. I spend my time grieving for him. To watch him suffer hurts me so bad; to stop it, I'd have given anything that I had. The chemo was rough and so hard to take; thoughts about it keep me awake. I couldn't believe it; it just can't be so. I'm not ready to let my dear daddy go. I had no choice; God took him in June. He died slowly but way too soon, But part of my dad lives on forever, the part that death cannot sever. The beautiful soul that I came to know will see me again when it's my time to go. Right now he's not sick or in any pain. Knowing that keeps me from going insane. I'll love my daddy forever and a day. I'm glad his suffering has gone away, But I look forward to that day when I'll see my dear daddy once again. Cassandra Copyright ©2007 Cassandra It is another reason I feel like God exists. It comforts me... |
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I've gone and did it now...I ran everybody away...
 
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Sun 01/27/08 02:59 PM
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There is no proof that God exists, there is also no proof that God doesn't I think this all depends on which God you’re talking about. Some religions believe in a God that has a specific history, persona, and is claimed to have actually said things that have been recorded in a book. If that book can be shown to be in contradiction with itself, or with the history, the persona, and/or the claims of that God, then this proves that at the very least such a God would be inconsistent, paradoxical, and basically unreasonable. So while we may not be able to prove the existence or non-existence of a God generically, I think it’s pretty clear that specific historical pictures of a God who’s persona has been carved in stone can be shown to be necessarily false via its own self-contradictive nature. |
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I guess I didn't think about all the other gods...I am speaking about The God of Abraham. Well I guess funches is busy...I'll have to check back later.....
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From running into people who have died and were confused somehow about what to do next, I'd have to say it is a combination of vibration and thought. They can telepathically communicate and it is possible to feel what they feel. and "fiesty wench" what significant knowledge was retain from these telepathic communciations beyond feelings...because those feelings may be the end results from eating a bad burrito |
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You do not offend me at all funches at any level I have always been hesitant to explain it due to this difficulty, those close to me feel the effects it has had on me. A peace and strength that was not there before. I used be riddled by the thoughts and emotions I had all the time. I had to logic everything and analyze everything to death and in some senses I am still this way. I rely on my logical mind a lot.
If you feel my frustration, it is with my limited way of expressing what I am trying to describe. Not with you at all that's good "Dragoness" because I have already met my quota for being called a troll this week |
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The answer is still no...and The other rational explaination is... because no one in the flesh at this time can prove/disprove that The Creator of the universe has a creator, nor can they prove/disprove that the Creator exists nor can anyone prove/disprove that The Creator or the universe have anything to do with the other.
"imageorgiagirl" the original question doesn't ask you to prove or disprove if the creator has a creator it just ask you to explain rationally why the same logic wouldn't apply to the creator having a creator |
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Oh and not only that no one can prove/disprove that the universe did/didn't pop out of nothingness...
Hi dragoness
in that case "imageorgiagirl" the universe wouldn't need a creator or could have in fact spawn the creator |
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Am I god, No I am not! You are looking for answers to a question that cannot be answered. You are looking for an absolute in a realm of possibilities. Can I say God exists? No I cannot. Can I say God doesn't exist? No I cannot. In between two opposite ends of beliefs, there are vast amounts of possibilities. I can prove air exists, though I cannot see it. I can also prove energy exists. There is no proof that God exists, there is also no proof that God doesn't. There are only possibilities. "nadius"..there is always proof that something unseen and incomprehensible doesn't exist ...the person that made the claim is the proof..because how would they know that it exist since it is unseen and incomprehensible ...commonly known as delusion |
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Yes you are right...I just like to mess with funches...he's very entertaining. I think he should be a lawyer or a professor. I am not sure I'd pass his class though... don't worry "imageorgiagirl" ..you gotta have faith because if you study you could pass my class....also haven't you ever heard of giving bribes |
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From part 1 of this topic,... What if this living energy is a spirit or a host? Our nerotranmitters are affected by elemetal energy around us, but what if this core energy you are describing is demons or hosts.
Just wondering.. I hear electricity, DSL and radio waves other can't seem to hear.. but I also know there is something else there.. I believe to be God, angels... demons.. Take care Uhh its kind of impossible to hear radio waves seeing that the range of human hearing is about 20-20,000 Hz and the lowest frequency for radio is AM starting at 535,000 hz. People who ‘hear’ radio waves don’t hear them with their ears. Besides, people who claim to actually hear the actual modulation content of those waves would need more than just antenna, they would need to have demodulators in their brains too! However, if they are just hearing the ‘static hiss’ or ‘actual carrier tones’ of these waves then it is not ‘hearing’ in the normal sense via the ear drum, but somehow they are picking up these signals within their brains. I don’t think there is any scientific evidence for this. So it would definitely be in the category of ESP, and if it is ESP then hearing the actual informational content of modulated waves wouldn’t be a problem because ESP isn’t physics. It’s a non-physical (or spiritual) perception of the world. No scientific explanation required. either way that being said I was right that she in fact did not "hear" them. |
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Edited by
Chazster
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Sun 01/27/08 04:15 PM
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Am I god, No I am not! You are looking for answers to a question that cannot be answered. You are looking for an absolute in a realm of possibilities. Can I say God exists? No I cannot. Can I say God doesn't exist? No I cannot. In between two opposite ends of beliefs, there are vast amounts of possibilities. I can prove air exists, though I cannot see it. I can also prove energy exists. There is no proof that God exists, there is also no proof that God doesn't. There are only possibilities. "nadius"..there is always proof that something unseen and incomprehensible doesn't exist ...the person that made the claim is the proof..because how would they know that it exist since it is unseen and incomprehensible ...commonly known as delusion no what you are doing is called "An Argument from Ignorance" (is a logical fallacy in which it is claimed that a premise is true only because it has not been proven false or false until proven true.) In fact, one of the most common forms of this is " * Something is currently unexplained or insufficiently understood or explained, so it is not (or must not be) true" |
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