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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer - part 2
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Tue 01/29/08 04:48 PM


No its based on physics. Matter can neither be created or destroyed (law of conservation of mass)
Energy cannot be created or destroyed (first law of thermodynamics)
With this laws then the matter and energy in the universe always existed hence something that was always there. Don't you know physics?

Thus if you want to assume there is no God then by the laws of physics the matter and energy was just always there because it can not be created or destroyed. So where does it come from?


"Chazster"...you are assuming energy can't be destroyed..think of it as a vacuum filled with water...now explain how you can destroy the water within the vacuum without damaging the vacuum ...the universe could for all you know exist in a vacuum and energy once removed for that vacuum could be destroyed

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Tue 01/29/08 04:50 PM

how are any of my theories scientology, also what unproven theories do you mean? I dont believe aliens cause us to believe in religion. I am catholic.


well "Chazster"..for all you know aliens could have written the bible and lefted it on Earth

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Tue 01/29/08 04:54 PM

I wasn't being irritated. Its not really a debate if one persons argument doesnt make since. Also, sometimes the best way to not be irritated is by ignoring someone.


right "Chazster" and you believe the best way to ignore someone is to come into the thread and debate with them ....er...ok...right ..you're funny

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Tue 01/29/08 04:58 PM

actually I am in a good mood. Of course how would you know since you are not me. but I am running late for class so i have to go.


ok "Chazster" have fun in scientology class...and ..er..say hi to Tom Cruise

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Tue 01/29/08 05:01 PM

i did explain it in the next post.. i wanted to copy my old one. Patience is a virtue.


no "Chazster" Patience is a virgin not a virtue

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Tue 01/29/08 05:15 PM



No its based on physics. Matter can neither be created or destroyed (law of conservation of mass)
Energy cannot be created or destroyed (first law of thermodynamics)
With this laws then the matter and energy in the universe always existed hence something that was always there. Don't you know physics?

Thus if you want to assume there is no God then by the laws of physics the matter and energy was just always there because it can not be created or destroyed. So where does it come from?


"Chazster"...you are assuming energy can't be destroyed..think of it as a vacuum filled with water...now explain how you can destroy the water within the vacuum without damaging the vacuum ...the universe could for all you know exist in a vacuum and energy once removed for that vacuum could be destroyed


Hmm! huh er huh um indifferent

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Tue 01/29/08 06:14 PM



No its based on physics. Matter can neither be created or destroyed (law of conservation of mass)
Energy cannot be created or destroyed (first law of thermodynamics)
With this laws then the matter and energy in the universe always existed hence something that was always there. Don't you know physics?

Thus if you want to assume there is no God then by the laws of physics the matter and energy was just always there because it can not be created or destroyed. So where does it come from?


"Chazster"...you are assuming energy can't be destroyed..think of it as a vacuum filled with water...now explain how you can destroy the water within the vacuum without damaging the vacuum ...the universe could for all you know exist in a vacuum and energy once removed for that vacuum could be destroyed

I am not assuming you cant destroy energy. Its a scientific law.

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Tue 01/29/08 06:16 PM


how are any of my theories scientology, also what unproven theories do you mean? I dont believe aliens cause us to believe in religion. I am catholic.


well "Chazster"..for all you know aliens could have written the bible and lefted it on Earth

But thats not what we believe. Based on your logic i will say, Find a post when I used Scientology theories and explain if you cant then you must be delusional.

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Tue 01/29/08 06:16 PM


I wasn't being irritated. Its not really a debate if one persons argument doesnt make since. Also, sometimes the best way to not be irritated is by ignoring someone.


right "Chazster" and you believe the best way to ignore someone is to come into the thread and debate with them ....er...ok...right ..you're funny

For the third time, i never said i was trying to ignore you.

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Tue 01/29/08 06:21 PM




No its based on physics. Matter can neither be created or destroyed (law of conservation of mass)
Energy cannot be created or destroyed (first law of thermodynamics)
With this laws then the matter and energy in the universe always existed hence something that was always there. Don't you know physics?

Thus if you want to assume there is no God then by the laws of physics the matter and energy was just always there because it can not be created or destroyed. So where does it come from?


"Chazster"...you are assuming energy can't be destroyed..think of it as a vacuum filled with water...now explain how you can destroy the water within the vacuum without damaging the vacuum ...the universe could for all you know exist in a vacuum and energy once removed for that vacuum could be destroyed

I am not assuming you cant destroy energy. Its a scientific law.


laws can be broken altered manipulated and/or cancelled out ..and that includes the Laws of Physics

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Tue 01/29/08 06:24 PM
Oh so you can believe that the fundamental laws of physics are incorrect but you can't believe there is a god. Now who is being closed minded.

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Tue 01/29/08 06:26 PM
I also like how you like to ask for scientific proof for certain things, but when someone does use science you just say science could be wrong lol. You are so silly funchesdrinker

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Tue 01/29/08 06:31 PM

But thats not what we believe. Based on your logic i will say, Find a post when I used Scientology theories and explain if you cant then you must be delusional.


because "Chazster" you said that you are a christian but don't believe aliens brought religion to earth ...since God wasn't born on Earth and is not Human then God is an alien that brought religion to earth and instead of religion you instead subsitute science into the equation which is what scientologist do they keep the God but dump the religion

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Tue 01/29/08 06:34 PM
Edited by Chazster on Tue 01/29/08 06:37 PM
NO they dont. They dont believe in god. They believe some alien emperor dumped a lot of aliens into a volcano and have some special thing so their ghosts dont escape. They then believe that these ghosts attach onto our bodies and make us believe in the different religions..whether its Christianity, buddism..etc.laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 01/29/08 06:34 PM



I wasn't being irritated. Its not really a debate if one persons argument doesnt make since. Also, sometimes the best way to not be irritated is by ignoring someone.


right "Chazster" and you believe the best way to ignore someone is to come into the thread and debate with them ....er...ok...right ..you're funny

For the third time, i never said i was trying to ignore you.


dude..I never take that stuff serious ..like "imageorgiagirl" would say...I'm being a smart ass

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Tue 01/29/08 06:34 PM
I am still hearing this even in the second one funches...

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Tue 01/29/08 06:38 PM

Oh so you can believe that the fundamental laws of physics are incorrect but you can't believe there is a god. Now who is being closed minded.


well "Chazster"...I said that the Laws of Physics are not constant and therefore can be altered manipulated and/or cancelled out ...I mean if you don't agree with that...then aren't you the one being closed minded

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Tue 01/29/08 06:43 PM
I really doubt that the fundamental law energy will really go anywhere. Not saying that it cant but I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT. That said that means anything thats not a mathematical equation could change so then you could say nothing in science except the math is could not be true. If you wanna go there then we can say just about everything we know could be wrong and nothing could be proven other than math.


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Tue 01/29/08 06:43 PM

NO they dont. They dont believe in god. They believe some alien emperor dumped a lot of aliens into a volcano and have some special thing so their ghosts dont escape. They then believe that these ghosts attach onto our bodies and make us believe in the different religions..whether its Christianity, buddism..etc.laugh laugh laugh


now "Chazster" you are assuming that all scientologist agree with each other...even christians form splinter sects like orthodox presbyterian satanist ..some Christians say that Jesus is God and other Christians disagree with that

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Tue 01/29/08 06:45 PM
either way by taking what scientists consider a law matter and energy must be eternal. So it is just as likely that there is an Eternal being as well.

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