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This is about Defending Law Enforcement, and those that need to quit with their lies about what Law Enforcement is doing and cause those that encourage violence against Law Enforcement over Immigration.
Law Enforcement should be praised and protected not having to fight for their lives doing what they are suppose to. This has to do with Immigration Policy! Love his final words~~~ https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CD9o34bZ1/ You will have to highlight it and click to show, tried to make it a link but did not work for me... |
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It's not that Democrats are attacking law enforcement. It's that certain elements of the law enforcement community--the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been gutted of their qualified officers and filled with unqualified thugs that have been terrorizing and deporting legal immigrants. Those "officers" have been running around in unmarked cars, not wearing uniforms or even identification and just running and tackling people. Like gang members. That's what Gavin Newsom and many other Democrats are complaining about, and JD Vance just ignores those very important points.
There's a page on Mingle2 that explains how to make links work: mingle2.com/topic/199646. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on encrypted URLs with the "https". I find that simply removing the "s" from "https://" works, as the web host will usually resolve it to the encrypted page, and I like to just remove the whole "https://" since it works, and looks cleaner for these posts. Like this: www.facebook.com/share/r/1CD9o34bZ1/ |
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Can you blame these officers for being unmarked, when the bleeding hearts are targeting them, and doxing them when given a chance. All these officers are trying to do is their mandate. These people need protection from those nutjobs that are using violence to prevent them from doing their job.
These "qualified" officers you speak to, are no longer qualified when they do not follow the chain of command. What else are you bitchin about...the tackling. You're right, they don't resist - ever. Perhaps the officers should offer them a balloon to come with them nicely |
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It's not that Democrats are attacking law enforcement. It's that certain elements of the law enforcement community--the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been gutted of their qualified officers and filled with unqualified thugs that have been terrorizing and deporting legal immigrants. Those "officers" have been running around in unmarked cars, not wearing uniforms or even identification and just running and tackling people. Like gang members. That's what Gavin Newsom and many other Democrats are complaining about, and JD Vance just ignores those very important points. First of all the reason that many ICE Agents are going plain clothes or wearing mask is due to many of them getting attacked or Harassed for doing their jobs.;. Anyone that thinks they should not be Protected for doing their jobs are welcome to sign up for the job if they think they can do any better.. As far as them wearing plain clothes that is not against the law... http://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/plainclothes-ice-arrest-in-san-diego-raises-questions-about-legality/ "What does the law require?" Federal law doesn’t mandate uniforms, but agencies like ICE typically require officers to carry and display identification. Under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2021, federal agents responding to civil disturbances must “visibly display” IDs and agency affiliation—but undercover and plainclothes officers are exempt. Additionally, ICE has authority under Section 287 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to arrest individuals without warrants in public spaces—but only when they have probable cause or valid administrative arrest warrants. ICE policy also allows agents to make arrests outside or within courthouses, something that has occurred in San Diego. |
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Can you blame these officers for being unmarked, when the bleeding hearts are targeting them, and doxing them when given a chance. All these officers are trying to do is their mandate. These people need protection from those nutjobs that are using violence to prevent them from doing their job. These "qualified" officers you speak to, are no longer qualified when they do not follow the chain of command. What else are you bitchin about...the tackling. You're right, they don't resist - ever. Perhaps the officers should offer them a balloon to come with them nicely Maybe it's OK in your neighborhood that cops beat civilians, but I know us Americans are promised due process through our Constitution. Cops aren't allowed to abuse the 4th Amendment and just tackle and arrest anybody not presenting as a "fine, upstanding citizen." They have to have probable cause to stop people, and without witnessing a crime, they have to have a warrant before arresting the same. Maybe President Trump is crying about some national emergency, but legal immigrants have been in the US for decades and there is no emergency. No need for violence. And I dare you to find a situation where ICE agents in regular uniforms with badges and name tags were assaulted more than plain-clothed officers. Maybe they were called names, but that, too is protected in the US. US citizens can legally tell police officers to f**k off. That's been litigated and established, protected speech. |
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First of all the reason that many ICE Agents are going plain clothes or wearing mask is due to many of them getting attacked or Harassed for doing their jobs.;.
Anyone that thinks they should not be Protected for doing their jobs are welcome to sign up for the job if they think they can do any better.. As far as them wearing plain clothes that is not against the law... http://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/plainclothes-ice-arrest-in-san-diego-raises-questions-about-legality/ "What does the law require?" Federal law doesn’t mandate uniforms, but agencies like ICE typically require officers to carry and display identification. Under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2021, federal agents responding to civil disturbances must “visibly display” IDs and agency affiliation—but undercover and plainclothes officers are exempt. Additionally, ICE has authority under Section 287 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to arrest individuals without warrants in public spaces—but only when they have probable cause or valid administrative arrest warrants. ICE policy also allows agents to make arrests outside or within courthouses, something that has occurred in San Diego. Yes, ICE agents are being asked to do a job in an illegal fashion. Where they're told to arrest people to meet Stephen Miller's quota of 3,000 immigrants per day. Arrest quotas are the opposite of probably cause and due process. And it's not valid undercover work when driving around in a van to round up suspected undocumented immigrants. Law enforcement officers already have the means to protect their identities on the job. Ever looked up a police officer's address or phone number? If you had, you'd know their name and number just leads you to their police building or headquarters. When ICE tells you they're protecting their officers by hiding their faces, it's a lie. In the USA, we are guaranteed due process by the Constitution, and that due process is not reserved only for citizens. The Constitution makes clear that the government cannot arrest people on mere "hunch" or vague suspicions. Trump and Vance may claim otherwise, but they're lying. |
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It's not that Democrats are attacking law enforcement. It's that certain elements of the law enforcement community--the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been gutted of their qualified officers and filled with unqualified thugs that have been terrorizing and deporting legal immigrants. Those "officers" have been running around in unmarked cars, not wearing uniforms or even identification and just running and tackling people. Like gang members. That's what Gavin Newsom and many other Democrats are complaining about, and JD Vance just ignores those very important points. There's a page on Mingle2 that explains how to make links work: mingle2.com/topic/199646. Unfortunately, it doesn't work on encrypted URLs with the "https". I find that simply removing the "s" from "https://" works, as the web host will usually resolve it to the encrypted page, and I like to just remove the whole "https://" since it works, and looks cleaner for these posts. Like this: www.facebook.com/share/r/1CD9o34bZ1/ |
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Can you blame these officers for being unmarked, when the bleeding hearts are targeting them, and doxing them when given a chance. All these officers are trying to do is their mandate. These people need protection from those nutjobs that are using violence to prevent them from doing their job. These "qualified" officers you speak to, are no longer qualified when they do not follow the chain of command. What else are you bitchin about...the tackling. You're right, they don't resist - ever. Perhaps the officers should offer them a balloon to come with them nicely Maybe it's OK in your neighborhood that cops beat civilians, but I know us Americans are promised due process through our Constitution. Cops aren't allowed to abuse the 4th Amendment and just tackle and arrest anybody not presenting as a "fine, upstanding citizen." They have to have probable cause to stop people, and without witnessing a crime, they have to have a warrant before arresting the same. Maybe President Trump is crying about some national emergency, but legal immigrants have been in the US for decades and there is no emergency. No need for violence. And I dare you to find a situation where ICE agents in regular uniforms with badges and name tags were assaulted more than plain-clothed officers. Maybe they were called names, but that, too is protected in the US. US citizens can legally tell police officers to f**k off. That's been litigated and established, protected speech. Citizens are protected with the constitution, not illegals |
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Citizens are protected with the constitution, not illegals
Nice try, but: The Constitution Protects All People—Not Just Citizens engagefordemocracy.substack.com/p/the-constitution-protects-all-peoplenot The Fifth Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment both protect “persons”—not just citizens. That includes:
* Tourists and students on visas * Refugees and asylum seekers * Undocumented immigrants * People who cross the border illegally * Permanent residents (green card holders) The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld that once someone is physically present in the United States, they are entitled to basic constitutional protections, including due process and equal protection |
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Also nice try...
just because you found some article that states that the supreme court has on occasion gave non citizens protections, it doesn't mean that much. I guess we'll find out who's right if each one of these "violations" make it to the supreme court or if their azzes get sent back to where they came ![]() |
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Edited by
Mortman
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Fri 10/03/25 01:00 PM
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Also nice try...
just because you found some article that states that the supreme court has on occasion gave non citizens protections, it doesn't mean that much. I guess we'll find out who's right if each one of these "violations" make it to the supreme court or if their azzes get sent back to where they came ![]() It's not that the SCOTUS "on occasion" gives rights to non-citizens. It's that the Constitution explicitly uses the term "person" and not "citizen." Maybe you think that means we're free to pick which rights go to immigrants, and the DOJ should punish "dangerous opinion." But the courts usually say that immigrants get to speak their minds regardless of the current administration's view on Israel, without being imprisoned/deported by the government. I agree, and now the courts are ruling closer to my opinion than yours. ![]() Noncitizens have free speech rights, and the Trump admin violated them, judge rules www.yahoo.com/news/articles/noncitizens-free-speech-rights-trump-192557031.html |
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