Topic: WAR
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Thu 01/03/08 02:50 PM
THIS IS MY RIGHT TO SAY WHAT EVER I WANT ABOUT THE WAR

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Thu 01/03/08 02:51 PM
Edited by BLACKWOLF2008 on Thu 01/03/08 03:31 PM
WE HAVE NO FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY I WAS IN THE WAR IN 1990

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Thu 01/03/08 02:52 PM

THIS IS MY RIGHT TO SAY WHAT EVER I WANT ABOUT THE WAR


Once again, you aren't saying anything. Does your mom know you are on the computer?

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Thu 01/03/08 02:52 PM

THIS IS MY RIGHT TO SAY WHAT EVER I WANT ABOUT THE WAR


You may certainly feel any way you like, but this website is privately owned, and does not allow people to bash one another.

Please refrain from posting in such a manner in the future.

Lori
Moderator.

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Thu 01/03/08 02:52 PM

WE HAVE NO FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY


So, what country would you say has freedom then?

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Thu 01/03/08 02:53 PM
Edited by captainfantastek on Thu 01/03/08 03:00 PM

WE HAVE NO FREEDOM IN THIS COUNTRY


Well you certainly contradicted yourself there. You have the freedom to say what you want about the war don't you? When you aren't voicing your opinions about the war, you have the freedom of hitting your bong don't ya?

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Thu 01/03/08 03:01 PM
Yeah, it irks me when people say we have no freedom and then turn around and want to quote their freedoms. Also, they never have an answer for what country has the freedom we supposedly don't have.

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Thu 01/03/08 03:05 PM
I want to add something to my post on page two. Another reason we can't cut and run from Iraq is because of Vietnam. Remember we ran out on South Vietnam and it fell to Communism, that is to North Vietnam. It took American a long time to get back its standing in the world, because of that fiasco. If we retreat from Iraq, we are telling the world that American cannot be trusted and that America will run out on its allies when the going gets tough.

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Thu 01/03/08 03:06 PM
Exactly. That's why we can't just cut and run.

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Thu 01/03/08 03:08 PM
i think we'll have more respect in the world if our leaders can get us out of there and admit their wrong doings.

it's far more noble to admit you're wrong than to stick with it

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Thu 01/03/08 03:17 PM
toastedor anges .....

No, American cannot say we are wrong, as you put it. The problem with that is that the country is divided on that opinion. Therefore, there is no way of knowing if your statement is right or wrong.

The only logical solution is to stick with Iraq and our allies. Once again, I will repeat that America cannot cut and run the way we did in Vietnam. Our allies will never trust us again, if we repeat Vietnam.

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Thu 01/03/08 03:18 PM
Perhaps admit the mistakes we made DURING the war. Admitting the war is a mistake, definately not.

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Thu 01/03/08 03:32 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Thu 01/03/08 03:35 PM

I want to add something to my post on page two. Another reason we can't cut and run from Iraq is because of Vietnam. Remember we ran out on South Vietnam and it fell to Communism, that is to North Vietnam. It took American a long time to get back its standing in the world, because of that fiasco. If we retreat from Iraq, we are telling the world that American cannot be trusted and that America will run out on its allies when the going gets tough.



And your point?

Allies?


I suspect those that felt they were allies initially, through the co-alition, has certainly changed their views on the US leaders.

Please note, not the US peoples, but their governing body.

The evidence has become insurmountable as to why the US is really in Iraq, and why as long as the leader is in government, and perhaps even the successor of the US president, the US will continue to be in Iraq.

Admitting it was a horrible and corrupt decision, in the first place, is about the only shred of grace and integrity the US government has left.

Again, NOT the US people, but their government.

Time for a change, in how the US views themselves, and start to really manage their home front and their declining economy....time to look after their own people.flowerforyou

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Thu 01/03/08 03:36 PM
the US is probabl going to have permanant bases in Iraq so its doubtful there will ever be an end to this situation with Iraq

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Thu 01/03/08 03:52 PM
jesse642..... I gather you are saying that if America declares that it was wrong to enter Iraq that it is not the American peopole who are saying it but as you put it, "not the US peoples, but their governing body."

I assume that you are not from this country since people who are not Americans get confused about our way of government. And I don't blame them, because I get confused myself sometimes. Anyway, let me explain to you that in America, the people elect the officials who make up our government. Therefore, the government represents the people. When the government declares war or retreats, it is the people who are doing so.


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Thu 01/03/08 03:53 PM

jesse642..... I gather you are saying that if America declares that it was wrong to enter Iraq that it is not the American peopole who are saying it but as you put it, "not the US peoples, but their governing body."

I assume that you are not from this country since people who are not Americans get confused about our way of government. And I don't blame them, because I get confused myself sometimes. Anyway, let me explain to you that in America, the people elect the officials who make up our government. Therefore, the government represents the people. When the government declares war or retreats, it is the people who are doing so.




Nice Insight.

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Thu 01/03/08 03:55 PM
not so much.

that's how our government works on paper, can you honestly tell me that is how it works in real? can you honestly tell me bush doesn't just do whatever the hell he wants and mocks us with his **** eating grin?

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Thu 01/03/08 03:57 PM
Obviously you don't understand our government. he can't just "do" what he wants. There are checks and balances. Ever heard of Congress?

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Thu 01/03/08 03:59 PM
dude, are you serious? as if this democrat congress is anything but a bunch of pussies. they set up guidelines then back down.

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Thu 01/03/08 04:01 PM
Perhaps, but people like Sadaam do what they like. Just because you don't agree with the current administration, does not mean Bush just does what he wants.