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now this may be foreign to some people but the left is saying send social workers to the scene...not cops...that may work in suburbia...maybe
But I ill tell you there area areas in the Bronx and lower Manhattan, and Brooklyn ( and every urban city) where they will throw those social workers off the roof of the projects. You really don't know unless you have been there..seen that life. you do not go in there unarmed..and you do not go in there without backup |
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? |
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? Well, she’s homeless and she’s obviously struggling to get by, which is evident in her crimes. Sometimes getting to the root of an issue is what someone needs and helping them to find a way out. It’s interesting to read about jail time recidivism, it’s not the answer for crime reduction in a good portion of cases when they are released. I honestly would not want to be in any position to figure this all out as it is a very messed up situation on all fronts. |
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Edited by
Bart
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Fri 02/18/22 06:45 PM
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? Well, she’s homeless and she’s obviously struggling to get by, which is evident in her crimes. Sometimes getting to the root of an issue is what someone needs and helping them to find a way out. It’s interesting to read about jail time recidivism, it’s not the answer for crime reduction in a good portion of cases when they are released. I honestly would not want to be in any position to figure this all out as it is a very messed up situation on all fronts. She may be homeless but is she helpless. Can she not work? She can walk enough to make 96 trips to the stores. So It could be that she’s healthy but to lazy to work for her socks. Is that asking to much? |
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? Well, she’s homeless and she’s obviously struggling to get by, which is evident in her crimes. Sometimes getting to the root of an issue is what someone needs and helping them to find a way out. It’s interesting to read about jail time recidivism, it’s not the answer for crime reduction in a good portion of cases when they are released. I honestly would not want to be in any position to figure this all out as it is a very messed up situation on all fronts. She may be homeless but is she helpless. Can she not work? She can walk enough to make 96 trips to the stores. So It could be that she’s healthy but to lazy to work for her socks. Is that asking to much? Work for her socks… that made me chuckle. :) It would be amazing for her to get a job, but again, she’s been doing this for a long time so apparently her happy meal is short a toy, so who’s to say she, in this particular case, could even hold a job? It seems easy to say ‘get a job’ to a rational person, but homelessness has usually surpassed rational. |
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? Well, she’s homeless and she’s obviously struggling to get by, which is evident in her crimes. Sometimes getting to the root of an issue is what someone needs and helping them to find a way out. It’s interesting to read about jail time recidivism, it’s not the answer for crime reduction in a good portion of cases when they are released. I honestly would not want to be in any position to figure this all out as it is a very messed up situation on all fronts. She may be homeless but is she helpless. Can she not work? She can walk enough to make 96 trips to the stores. So It could be that she’s healthy but to lazy to work for her socks. Is that asking to much? Work for her socks… that made me chuckle. :) It would be amazing for her to get a job, but again, she’s been doing this for a long time so apparently her happy meal is short a toy, so who’s to say she, in this particular case, could even hold a job? It seems easy to say ‘get a job’ to a rational person, but homelessness has usually surpassed rational. I guess, I’ve never been in that situation so it’s hard for me to understand their dilemma. Hopefully with the national attention she got from “ Fox News” she will get that help. Fox News doesn’t tell news to hurt people they tell news because it’s news. |
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? Well, she’s homeless and she’s obviously struggling to get by, which is evident in her crimes. Sometimes getting to the root of an issue is what someone needs and helping them to find a way out. It’s interesting to read about jail time recidivism, it’s not the answer for crime reduction in a good portion of cases when they are released. I honestly would not want to be in any position to figure this all out as it is a very messed up situation on all fronts. |
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Edited by
Smartazzjohn
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Sat 02/19/22 09:11 AM
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I've been poor, wondered how I WAS going to feed my family because I was too proud to become a societal parasite. I escaped poverty because I DIDN'T make excuses, because I DIDN'T blame society, because I DIDN'T stop trying to HELP myself.
No one, including the government, can help people who WON'T help themselves. And helping yourself DOESN'T mean helping yourself to something you DIDN'T earn, the something that BELONGS to someone else. Being too lazy to work ISN'T a "mental illness", it's a CHOICE. Making crime a career ISN'T a "mental illness", it's a CHOICE. I'm beginning to think that making excuses for people who make inexcusable CHOICES could be a "mental illness". |
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oh poor baby, republicans just shoot up schools that's pure crap...that's why politics and religion should not be allowed here.....this a dating sight.... |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Sat 02/19/22 11:54 AM
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oh poor baby, republicans just shoot up schools that's pure crap...that's why politics and religion should not be allowed here.....this a dating sight.... But that would be saying that this site is not for Christians because Christians are to share their faith and bring light into the world wherever they go. Also This is called a dating and chatting site, but in reality it's more of a scamming, chatting and complaining site |
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oh poor baby, republicans just shoot up schools that's pure crap...that's why politics and religion should not be allowed here.....this a dating sight.... I actually debunked the what the person you quoted said with an actual study. Personally I believe in freedom, including the freedom for people to post nonsense that is easily disproved. As for YOU saying "politics and religion should not be allowed here" did you fail to see that that the heading of the forum for this thread is "Politics, Current News & Events"???? Evidently the administrators of this site feel political discussion should be allowed. If political, or religion, discussions bother you I'd suggest NOT reading ANYTHING where the content is geared towards those subjects in the title. Personally I avoiding reading, let alone posting, when I might not like the subject matter. This reminds me of of a skit done by comedian Ron White where he says "I Had the Right to Remain Silent...But I Didn't Have the Ability". |
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oh poor baby, republicans just shoot up schools that's pure crap...that's why politics and religion should not be allowed here.....this a dating sight.... But that would be saying that this site is not for Christians because Christians are to share their faith and bring light into the world wherever they go. Also This is called a dating and chatting site, but in reality it's more of a scamming, chatting and complaining site Politics, Current News and Events. Down a bit farther is- General Religion and Chat. Find the thread you like and go there. Don't like the title? Don't go in. How hard is that? |
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Defunding police is a horrible idea, and one that I would never support. What I would support would be more mental health experts available to police. The example you gave is perfect, this woman clearly has mental health issues. She is currently out on supervised release and has numerous court cases pending. She doesn’t care, she’s not going to stop. She needs some help. Instead foxnews turns this into a blue/red matter. That’s the problem I see. IMO the problem stems from never being held accountable. If your never punished for doing wrong than your gonna keep doing wrong. No mental health expert needed here. Maybe house arrest might convince her to stop. Now she’s to old to jail . These are the consequences that result from trying to appease one side over the other. Especially when it comes to the justice system. She’s only 42, so there’s clearly something not right with this woman. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, we need more consequences for actions, yes, absolutely. After reading a bit about her I don’t think jail time at any point would have been the answer for her. Pardon me, I thought she was an old woman. In this case lock her up for a little while .She will think twice next time. Bastet, I’m curious of what a mental health expert could do to help her? Well, she’s homeless and she’s obviously struggling to get by, which is evident in her crimes. Sometimes getting to the root of an issue is what someone needs and helping them to find a way out. It’s interesting to read about jail time recidivism, it’s not the answer for crime reduction in a good portion of cases when they are released. I honestly would not want to be in any position to figure this all out as it is a very messed up situation on all fronts. Then how about not releasing them on.... oh, let's say.... the 48th time? The root of the problem is there is no consequence for her actions. Had she done serious time, the number of cases would have been down and there'd be jurisprudence for similar dregs on society. It would also clear the docket for more criminals (speedier trials) and less taxpayer dollars going to public defenders. If you are worried about her homelessness, she won't be homeless in a 6X6 cage - getting 3 squares and all the socks she needs. It is already a fact, that not knowing the law does not excuse you from being criminally responsible - mental health belongs in the same category. Also...lets do away with these mitigating factors nonsense. I agree that there are people that cannot be rehabilitated - in fact I think most can't. Time to lock em up and throw away the key with the people that doesn't want to help themselves. They are not or will be contributers to society, so they shouldn't be allowed to roam free in ours. |
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she bragged about it.. said it was her " profession"
I agree, she should have spent time in jail. think about the manpower and cost alone used in arresting her 96 times. Then to brag about it..... |
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she bragged about it.. said it was her " profession"
I agree, she should have spent time in jail. think about the manpower and cost alone used in arresting her 96 times. Then to brag about it..... |
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