I have noticed with living in England it's mainly men contacting females first or talking to them first. On websites I have noticed females from Eastern Europe, Asia and Africa contact you first. Having been overseas especially in Asia mainly China females there come up to you and start talking first.
Do you think females in different countries do things differently I get that impression myself though a minority have contacted me first or spoke to me first though in most cases it's me doing this.

There can be cultural differences of course, but I think in most cases it's that people in poor countries are looking for an easy way out.

I know from a Chinese woman that I had in one of my courses that as a young girl wasn't allowed to talk to boys. So I don't think it's Chinese culture.

I'd say use common sense: in most cases it goes that when something is too good to be true it is too good to be true.
And to my experience in Asian countries you're automatically considered rich just because you're white. You could be flat broke, they still see you as rich.

It doesn't matter who contacts whom or who approaches first. It shouldn't happen that first she talks to me or i talk to her first and in thinking first who the third person introduces her/himself an we remain thinking an watching the face with thoughts.... jst kidding.
Have A Good Time

Hello Sparkling Crystal,
I agree with what you have written about some things.
Yes, many people from poorer countries are looking for a way out. Some though do not want to leave with having their family and friends there.
Regarding Chinese females ones, I met while first having holidays there three times then living there for seven months had different reasons for talking to me. Some were after a free meal some to practice their English and some genuinely wanted a relationship.
Chinese parents can be strict and push their children maybe that was the case with the young Chinese girl.
I have only been to China and Hong Kong in Asia so far which are richer than most countries.
I do use common sense think in life if something is not right do not do it.

Hello Robin,
I was just writing my thoughts on this.
If I like a female I will contact them first though sometimes I get them writing to me first it tends to be foreign females. I just think with English females on dating websites very few seem to do this.
It may be a cultural thing or for other reasons. Many females in England like the men to contact them first well that's the opinion I get myself.

There can also be other things which prompt females to 1st contact males.

If you have ever looked at different area demographics sometimes its obvious who will contact whom first.

In some places, women outnumber the men. Sometimes there are demographics that reveal women to men ratios by age who are widowed/divorced and single occupant households. Demographics also reveal mean household income and other statistics. I've even seen demographics reports of stds and health problems per city.

There is also an online phenomenon which tilts the scales. Some dating websites are heavily populated by women vs men.

We must not dismiss the fact women are steadily gaining status in societies. Women (and men) are breaking from traditional roles. You can see it in business and recreation so why not dating roles?
While many women still want traditional dating etiquette, their personal self-esteem and egos are greater than they were a few decades ago.
In some cases, women now rewrite the rules of dating to fit their new social authority.

Personally I see women as people too. I acknowledge their individual identities. I don't see them as property, slaves or inferior.
I like strong personalities so I prefer women who contact first. As a teenager and young adult there was pressure to make all the decisions, make all the first moves and that involved a lot of mistakes. I married under those same rules of relationship.
It wasn't till I divorced that I realized my traditional "thinking" was outdated and unjust.
I needed to 'rethink' how I thought about women.
I needed to afford women the same personal respect I gave to men.
I'm no longer interested in playing puppet master in my relationships. Subsequently, my relationships have grown stronger and both of us have grown personally as individual healthy self-esteemed components of the whole.

Being in a healthy relationship, I no longer pay attention to the 1st contact rules set forth by tradition. I see men and women as people equally, unless that individual says or does something which changes my stance.

Even my general friendships have changed for the better. A 'forthright' woman gains my respect for her as a person. I'm not offended by first contact nor am I offended by her strong personality.

Part of gaining wisdom is learning the right lessons from the experiences of life.
Choosing wisely also means choosing wisely in how you react and behave during social encounters.

Preaching 'do unto others as you would have others do unto you' is not the same as living it.

I respect that Sir.
It was just my guesture not opinion, because I'm not the perfect person in that. I understand your view's.
Thank You.

Tom4UHere,
Thank you for your long message. A lot of what you wrote is correct to some degree I do not check everything with demographics though noticed what you wrote with me I do not look that far into everything regarding this
I see females as being equal to mails though some men do not in this world with religion etc and maybe even in the workplace. I have even had female bosses and in this world, some females are very wealthy and influential.
John

Okay, Robin thank you for your gesture nobody is perfect.
John

Something I have noticed, John, is even women who have low self-esteem react positively to personal respect. Yes, there are many strong-willed women now. There are also still many women trapped by traditional values who yearn for equality in their relationships.
In an effort to 'break free' of those impositions they try to initiate 1st contact. You must be wary of this because unlike actual strong-willed women, they tend to fall quickly back into their trapped lifestyle.

Then you have the threat of online dating scams. Many times, 1st contact from a woman online isn't even a woman. Its merely a method to exploit your vulnerabilities so they can extract information or money from you. After awhile, it gets easier to identify them from actual 1st contact women. You build up a resistance to the ploy. Their methods of contact become recognizable. You grow a 'thicker skin'.

Tom4UHere,
Maybe you are right about low self-esteem. In some countries maybe the Muslim females have to walk behind men instead of alongside them. I just read earlier in A World cup qualifying football match soccer to you if you are American females were allowed to enter the stadium for the first time in many years. In Afghanistan, young girls are sold to men and other families then there was the issue with Chinese baby girls left to die on the streets in China though this was a separate issue.
With dating scams you usually get My dear wrote also god-fearing and two different places ie saw one profile on here claiming they are from London Scotland. A lot of people on dating sites are just trying to meet someone and this spoils it for others if too many scammers.


Something I have noticed, John, is even women who have low self-esteem react positively to personal respect. Yes, there are many strong-willed women now. There are also still many women trapped by traditional values who yearn for equality in their relationships.
In an effort to 'break free' of those impositions they try to initiate 1st contact. You must be wary of this because unlike actual strong-willed women, they tend to fall quickly back into their trapped lifestyle.

Then you have the threat of online dating scams. Many times, 1st contact from a woman online isn't even a woman. Its merely a method to exploit your vulnerabilities so they can extract information or money from you. After awhile, it gets easier to identify them from actual 1st contact women. You build up a resistance to the ploy. Their methods of contact become recognizable. You grow a 'thicker skin'.

Something I have noticed, John, is even women who have low self-esteem react positively to personal respect. Yes, there are many strong-willed women now. There are also still many women trapped by traditional values who yearn for equality in their relationships.
In an effort to 'break free' of those impositions they try to initiate 1st contact. You must be wary of this because unlike actual strong-willed women, they tend to fall quickly back into their trapped lifestyle.

Then you have the threat of online dating scams. Many times, 1st contact from a woman online isn't even a woman. Its merely a method to exploit your vulnerabilities so they can extract information or money from you. After awhile, it gets easier to identify them from actual 1st contact women. You build up a resistance to the ploy. Their methods of contact become recognizable. You grow a 'thicker skin'.

I have never on a dating site , experienced a first contac from any real or genuine woman period ... most Have been thru forums !!!
The first contact women are generally half my age , live very very far away and are striking models ... and leaves me to wonder what could ,they possibly see in me ....even I don't like myself most days !!! and my gut instinct tells me they are scammers ..... and normally for the large part that's exactly what they turn out to be !!!!
I for one don't believe , that women are about to put the moves on me ..... I wish they did ... but I ain't holding my breath..... besides in really , I am pretty comfortable being the hunter .....

Slim Gym,
Yes, a lot of females tend to be half age when making first contact maybe the site should have something in what age group you are looking for or better still make it that age group that can contact you when doing or editing your profile.
I have dated females over half my age mostly though some twenty to twenty-five years younger. If from Asian countries even Eastern Europe a lot of females prefer older men.
Some people though prefer females from their own country or even their own area.
I make the first move myself but have had females contact me first but it's a minority.