Topic: Forensic Files makes me wonder...
SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 08/11/21 10:14 AM
why so many people are so stupid and then get killed because of it.
I really can't believe the things you see.

- Leaving a downstairs door open and going to bed...

- Leaving a downstairs window open and going to bed...

- Going to the beach in the middle of the night to smoke a cigarette, alone

- Houses still having these window that slide up and have no lock, or a flimsy one.

- young teenage girls getting in a car with a stranger

- young teenage girls getting in a car with a creep they know

And more stupid stuff like that. I never leave a window open when I go to bed, not even upstairs, let alone a downstairs door, regardless of how stinking hot it is. And I'm not paranoia, live in a peaceful quiet area, but I ain't stupid.


I also cannot believe this:

- Taking out life insurance policies without that person knowing about it surprised How is that possible?

- The number of ppl getting killed by guns the killer owns, who are not always criminals, and guns still being allowed in the US

- The amount of violence & killing in the US.

- Usually no double glazing which does make it a little safer

It's all quite shocking, no matter how interesting the DNA stuff and solving of cases is to watch.
It's something to think that by using common sense, and changing some laws, crime nrs could in actual fact go down.
And I don't mean this as a rant, it's just total disbelief that so many violent crimes could so easily be prevented, but aren't.




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Wed 08/11/21 10:47 AM
When you watch those "Shows" like that you need to realize they are not complete stories. At best, they are taken from the police investigations after the fact and dramatised to make it interesting to the viewers.

As for people, in general well... they tend to be dim-witted.

There's also the fact of history and location.
I've lived on farms where we never locked our doors. In the city you lock your doors.

If we base our understanding of cultures on what we see on TV we get a twisted view of reality. I don't lock my back door but I do lock my front door.
When I lived in my own house I never locked my car and usually left the keys in the ignition. Here I lock my truck.
It depends upon where you live and the history of the area.

Anyone can kill anyone anytime anyplace. However, the chances of you being the victim is relative to the people you know, where you live and the people around you and how much of a potential target you are by what you show others.

You would probably get a real kick out of the Darwin Awards
http://darwinawards.com/

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 08/11/21 11:21 AM

When you watch those "Shows" like that you need to realize they are not complete stories. At best, they are taken from the police investigations after the fact and dramatised to make it interesting to the viewers.

As for people, in general well... they tend to be dim-witted.

There's also the fact of history and location.
I've lived on farms where we never locked our doors. In the city you lock your doors.

If we base our understanding of cultures on what we see on TV we get a twisted view of reality. I don't lock my back door but I do lock my front door.
When I lived in my own house I never locked my car and usually left the keys in the ignition. Here I lock my truck.
It depends upon where you live and the history of the area.

Anyone can kill anyone anytime anyplace. However, the chances of you being the victim is relative to the people you know, where you live and the people around you and how much of a potential target you are by what you show others.

You would probably get a real kick out of the Darwin Awards
http://darwinawards.com/

I agree with you, but only up to a point.
It's not just those things but also a culture it seems. The US has a very high homicide rate. Also a high rape rate. One could wonder why this is. What makes a people so easily ticked off that they go as far as to kill someone, often very violently as well.

Also, none of the cases addressed in Forensic Files is set in a city. Judging by the accent it's all in the south and smaller towns, villages or remote areas.
Again, I wonder why a people gets so easily aggressive. Proves to be a lethal combination with being allowed to own firearms. Although not all are killed by a firearm of course, many are.

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Wed 08/11/21 11:54 AM
Well, there is something seriously wrong with today's society in the US.
Can't say anything for the rest of the world because I don't see it.
People here seem to be stressed out most of the time lately (covid?).

There's also a fear of strangers and the ever-present feeling of being short-changed in life.
I personally believe this is a result of the media saturation and easy instant gratification.

Guns have been in my life since I was born. I never murdered anyone nor do I personally know anyone who has murdered anyone. Murders do happen but they happen to people I don't know.

I did meet a man who murdered his wife's lover when he caught them. He served his prison time but I never really trusted him. I wasn't close with him or his family tho, just an aquaintance.

I've lived in and near some fairly large cities but never knew of an active serial killer or serial rapist while living there.

There are certain places where you shouldn't go because of the dangerous element but I think that's common in any country. Personally, I think cities are insane and will never live in one again. Give me small town USA and I'm happy.

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Wed 08/11/21 02:19 PM
I've watch that show a few times. Is that show was still on the air or is it in syndication only?

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Wed 08/11/21 02:51 PM
Everywhere I've lived, I've never been afraid. I leave my windows open all day and night in the summer. I'm not a paranoid person in that way.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 08/11/21 02:51 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Wed 08/11/21 03:00 PM

Well, there is something seriously wrong with today's society in the US.
Can't say anything for the rest of the world because I don't see it.
People here seem to be stressed out most of the time lately (covid?).

There's also a fear of strangers and the ever-present feeling of being short-changed in life.
I personally believe this is a result of the media saturation and easy instant gratification.

Guns have been in my life since I was born. I never murdered anyone nor do I personally know anyone who has murdered anyone. Murders do happen but they happen to people I don't know.

I did meet a man who murdered his wife's lover when he caught them. He served his prison time but I never really trusted him. I wasn't close with him or his family tho, just an aquaintance.

I've lived in and near some fairly large cities but never knew of an active serial killer or serial rapist while living there.

There are certain places where you shouldn't go because of the dangerous element but I think that's common in any country. Personally, I think cities are insane and will never live in one again. Give me small town USA and I'm happy.

People are more on edge since the pandemic for sure.
We see that over here too. I believe there's currently waves of violence in cities done by kids of approx. 12 yrs old (!!!) carrying machetes and stuff. Bleep knows where they get 'em. And I seriously don't understand. When I was 12 I was playing with Barbies.
Nevertheless the US has always been known for very high crime & homicide rates. It's 10x higher than over here. Brazil is worse, hihi, but I since that's not a 1st world country and in a continent with a lot of upheaval, gangs, kartels, drugs etc.... Not the same I think.
But let's hope that the pandemic situation finally improves to the point we can go back to living a normal life. We all seem to be in a pressure cooker.

As for "they happen to people I don't know"... that's what many people whose loved one got killed say too...

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 08/11/21 02:52 PM

I've watch that show a few times. Is that show was still on the air or is it in syndication only?

Forensic Files II came back in 2020. So far only 1 season but I do believe it got renewed.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 08/11/21 02:58 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Wed 08/11/21 03:19 PM

Everywhere I've lived, I've never been afraid. I leave my windows open all day and night in the summer. I'm not a paranoid person in that way.

Pretty amazing you sleep well, hihi. Even though I'm not afraid, the thought of waking up with some creep hovering over me is not one I fancy.

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Wed 08/11/21 03:54 PM
I live in a place that is big ranching and hunting community with many gun owners. You can never convince people to give up their guns.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 08/11/21 04:03 PM

I live in a place that is big ranching and hunting community with many gun owners. You can never convince people to give up their guns.

Yeah, I know. Big problem. And almost impossible to change. To us, the rest of the world, it's insane that it's allowed. And we all do fine without.
The only time I can understand needing a firearm is when having to defend from a wild animal attack. But we don't have dangerous wild animals here either so even that need doesn't exist.
I hope it'll change someday, but it requires an attitude change of people to get there.

Anywho, sleep peaceful sleep, Cat, with beautiful dreams!
flowerforyou

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 08/16/21 08:35 AM
Apart from my OP, not understanding the stupidity of people, the high assault & homicide nrs like in the US most cost a frigging fortune!
Blood/skin cell/ hair/semen collecting & testing and other research methods to work out what has happened or to make a rock solid case for in court.
All that equipment used, people to do all that work, substances to do the tests etc... All that stuff has to be paid for by what? Tax?
It's good that all these things exist of course and that it's done. But it does make me wonder what the total amount of cost is per year on all that stuff.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 08/16/21 08:41 AM
BTW 911 dispatcher are sometimes hilarious, hihi.
Person calling in "There a dead person in the house!"
911 dispatcher "Is he/she conscious?"
slaphead

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Mon 08/16/21 09:14 AM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Mon 08/16/21 09:15 AM
TV show VS Reality

TvShow:
The CSI team dedicates their time and everyone else supports their efforts to figuring out exactly what happened right away.
Reality:
CSI is not a team, usually one man or just a detective collecting evidence.
The evidence gets submitted to the labs for analysis along with hundreds of other evidence. To be analyzed by a few qualified technicians. The detective usually waits weeks if not months for the lab's findings. Many findings which do not prove anything at all. Or the evidence gets contaminated in some way and cannot be used.

TVShow:
Everybody works hard to solve the case, often working into the night and on weekends. Every case is an exhaustive determination to find the truth...and it always pays off in the end.
Reality:
People work their shift and go home. They come back in and their workload has increased, pressure is upon them to get the results to prove the case, bosses harp and pester. More often than not, mistakes are made, conclusions are wrong or the 'evidence' rules out the suspect causing everything to restart and new avenues of investigation must be taken. All the while, time passes, people's memories fade and people leave, die or become uncooperative.

Not every lab has up to date equipment.
Most CSI teams are 1 or 2 people.
Most collection methods are unscientific.
Most 'gut feelings' are wrong.
Assumptions are made based on prejudices.
Everyone has a full workload of unrelated cases.
Fingerprints and facial recognition takes time, lots of time.
Sometimes the one you 'know' is guilty gets away with it despite the evidence.
Sometimes innocent people get convicted of crimes they did not commit.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 08/31/21 07:58 AM
Still watching this series a lot, last few seasons I think, and it keeps having my jaw drop again and again.

The number of people that are fed up with their spouse and kill him/her with a fire arm/knife/both/poison is simple unbelievable!
Over here people get a divorce.

And often it's preceded by taking out a life insurance or raising it before the murder.
I checked how that is arranged here as it seems insanity to me that you can do that without the person knowing of it.
Apparently you can take out life insurance on someone else but they DO get notified. Now I'm not certain but I don't think many people here have life insurance, only when connected to a mortgage, which many do otherwise they're in chit if the other happens to pass away. But then both have to sign. It's part of the mortgage.
Apart from that, I don't think it happens often.

And again being allowed private fire arms...
The nr of murders is insanely high so why not forbid that?
A 17 yr old kid sniping and killing some 10 people, including a child...

And what goes on in men's minds??
Raping women... raping young girls... regularly murdering them, cutting them up and dumping the bodyparts. How effing sick is that? Some rape AFTER murdering them, eewww...

One man raped his own daughter, only 3 months old! THREE months!?! I can still remember my li'l girl at that age. Had it been my man to do that he'd be in deep chit. The worst torture isn't enough for scum like that. Can't help it, but that stuff makes my blood boil. How can you even get aroused by a li'l baby??
The poor baby girl had severe internal damage.

Me's thinking having the death penalty in many states in the US is a good thing. And I've never been for it really. But now... having seen all this chit, all I'm thinking is, they should implement it faster, not allow them to live another 20 yrs on death row.

I also thought there was such a thing as double jeopardy? But a woman got in prison for something she didn't do, got released. Immediately after that the state sued her for the exact same thing? WTF? I thought that wasn't possible.

Not saying things are perfect in my country, mind you, but in comparison a helluva lot safer!
And the psychology of it all intrigues me too. Why are so many people so hotdanged aggressive and FU??

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Tue 08/31/21 08:55 AM
And again being allowed private fire arms...
The nr of murders is insanely high so why not forbid that?

In the USA 'We The People' have the right to bear arms.
When the Constitution was written, the men who wrote it just fought a war for independence from an oppressive government.
The Right to Bear Arms was written into the constitution in an effort to not allow another oppressive government to have total control over the US citizens.
It allows 'We The People' to stand against our own government when change is needed.
Over 200 years later conditions have changed but the right remains.
We The People still have the right to bear arms but some people have twisted its privilege.
Some people abuse their rights. However, not all people are some people and 'We The People' represents all people.
Personally, "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it".

As far as rapists and child molesters, some people are broken inside. Sex trafficking is a world-wide business. Most sex traffickers base in other countries than the USA. Granted there are twisted people all over the world but again, if you base your understanding of the USA on what you read or watch on TV you are not getting the actual accounting.

Life in the USA is not fraught with danger. People are not killing and raping in the streets. Granted there are dangerous places but I think there are dangerous places in any country.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 08/31/21 09:13 AM

And again being allowed private fire arms...
The nr of murders is insanely high so why not forbid that?

In the USA 'We The People' have the right to bear arms.
When the Constitution was written, the men who wrote it just fought a war for independence from an oppressive government.
The Right to Bear Arms was written into the constitution in an effort to not allow another oppressive government to have total control over the US citizens.
It allows 'We The People' to stand against our own government when change is needed.
Over 200 years later conditions have changed but the right remains.
We The People still have the right to bear arms but some people have twisted its privilege.
Some people abuse their rights. However, not all people are some people and 'We The People' represents all people.
Personally, "I'd rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it".

As far as rapists and child molesters, some people are broken inside. Sex trafficking is a world-wide business. Most sex traffickers base in other countries than the USA. Granted there are twisted people all over the world but again, if you base your understanding of the USA on what you read or watch on TV you are not getting the actual accounting.

Life in the USA is not fraught with danger. People are not killing and raping in the streets. Granted there are dangerous places but I think there are dangerous places in any country.

Yeah, and exactly that right to take on your own government is what always baffles me. Is you don't or cannot trust your country, then the country is sick to begin with. It already creates a rift and maybe at the time it was understandable but in this day and age...
Thing is, when very few people own a gun you don't have the need for one either. But if I'd live in the US I'd be inclined to have at least one, even though I'm 300% against it, just to be able to defend myself from all the others with guns. And that's the thing: it instigates only more aggression and crime.

Sex trafficking is another thing. I was not talking about that at all.
If correct that is mostly eastern European countries these days, and has always been mostly Middle-Eastern practice. Middle-East has always been notorious concerning slave trade, including -mostly white- sex slaves. That goes back hundreds of years!

I was talking about rape and killing after wards & cutting up the bodies.
From what I looked up a while back, the US not only has a very high homicide rate, but also rape/sex related crimes.
And again, the psychology of all that is intriguing. Why? I think that's why it captivates me.

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Tue 08/31/21 09:46 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Tue 08/31/21 09:47 AM
Double for some reason...

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 08/31/21 09:46 AM
Oh, just to be clear... I'm not having a go at America. It's more that I don't get how an alleged first world country can be / have become so different from the others. And also stay that way or maybe gotten worse even.

I totally enjoyed America when I was there, even though it was short. Most people were great. But in all honesty... I don't think I'd ever feel really safe living there. My girl had a handgun in a nightstand. Loaded, no safety. She encountered some weird chit when she lived there and she was often alone as her then hubbie was in the military.
In general we don't have the need for that here. Which makes me feel safe!
The difference is just peculiar.