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Biden will do anything at this point to try to deflect peoples attention away from the horrendous job he has done the past yeaf.
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Why ARE we confronting Russia, what stakes do we have in Ukraine to chance a Cold War at the least or maybe even escalated to WWIII. I can’t think of a U.S. interest there that’s worth the $$$ or possible lives lost. Much more important things closer to home to worry about.
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Edited by
jaish
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Sat 01/22/22 12:54 AM
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Biden will do anything at this point to try to deflect peoples attention away from the horrendous job he has done the past year. Extremely worrying. Moreover, Ukraine is a failed economy. Large farms that were maintained by former government machinery are now without capital and farmers have let their lands go waste. W/o agro-export economy, the govt. needs a bailout. What's surprising is EU has not played any pro-active role. Seems Europe wants to move NATO shield forward to Ukraine-Russian border - maybe thereafter EU may invest in assets. Seems Ukrainian politicians are stalling; unsure of direction to take. |
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Why ARE we confronting Russia, what stakes do we have in Ukraine to chance a Cold War at the least or maybe even escalated to WWIII. I can’t think of a U.S. interest there that’s worth the $$$ or possible lives lost. Much more important things closer to home to worry about. England's PM Neville Chamberlain had that type of view when on 9/30/1938 he ceding the German-speaking Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia to Germany. That's what furthered Germany's aggression which led to the invasion of Poland on 9/1/1939 that marked the beginning of WWII. The course of history will repeat itself unless unless something is done to change that course. Showing weakness towards aggressors like Putin only increases their aggression. Force is needed to stop aggressors, not necessarily the USE of force, but just the showing of force is enough to shop aggressors. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov gave US Secretary of State Antony Blinken a list of demands and DEMANDED that the US deliver written responses to those demands. IMO Blinken should have torn up the list of demands and walked away. By accepting the list and AGREEING to reply to Russia's demands in writing he showed a weakness, not just to Russia but to the rest of the world, including China, Iran, North Korea, NATO and other allies. Aggression like cancer only spreads until something is done to stop the spread. |
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Why ARE we confronting Russia, what stakes do we have in Ukraine to chance a Cold War at the least or maybe even escalated to WWIII. I can’t think of a U.S. interest there that’s worth the $$$ or possible lives lost. Much more important things closer to home to worry about. England's PM Neville Chamberlain had that type of view when on 9/30/1938 he ceding the German-speaking Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia to Germany. That's what furthered Germany's aggression which led to the invasion of Poland on 9/1/1939 that marked the beginning of WWII. The course of history will repeat itself unless unless something is done to change that course. Showing weakness towards aggressors like Putin only increases their aggression. Force is needed to stop aggressors, not necessarily the USE of force, but just the showing of force is enough to shop aggressors. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov gave US Secretary of State Antony Blinken a list of demands and DEMANDED that the US deliver written responses to those demands. IMO Blinken should have torn up the list of demands and walked away. By accepting the list and AGREEING to reply to Russia's demands in writing he showed a weakness, not just to Russia but to the rest of the world, including China, Iran, North Korea, NATO and other allies. Aggression like cancer only spreads until something is done to stop the spread. Yea, I agree this administration has shown weakness every chance they get. But my point was s what’s the strategic interest to the U.S. to fight a war for a country ripe with corruption and half a world away. Let the EU defend themselves . Germany and a couple other countries over there there have turned their back on us anyway . When those countries that love to straddle the fence decide they would rather stand with freedom and democracy instead of socialists and dictatorships. Then and only then should we be willing to come to their defense.. |
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Edited by
jaish
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Sat 01/22/22 12:33 PM
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Why ARE we confronting Russia, what stakes do we have in Ukraine to chance a Cold War at the least or maybe even escalated to WWIII. I can’t think of a U.S. interest there that’s worth the $$$ or possible lives lost. Much more important things closer to home to worry about. England's PM Neville Chamberlain had that type of view when on 9/30/1938 he ceding the German-speaking Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia to Germany. That's what furthered Germany's aggression which led to the invasion of Poland on 9/1/1939 that marked the beginning of WWII. The course of history will repeat itself unless unless something is done to change that course. Showing weakness towards aggressors like Putin only increases their aggression. Force is needed to stop aggressors, not necessarily the USE of force, but just the showing of force is enough to shop aggressors. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov gave US Secretary of State Antony Blinken a list of demands and DEMANDED that the US deliver written responses to those demands. IMO Blinken should have torn up the list of demands and walked away. By accepting the list and AGREEING to reply to Russia's demands in writing he showed a weakness, not just to Russia but to the rest of the world, including China, Iran, North Korea, NATO and other allies. Aggression like cancer only spreads until something is done to stop the spread. Yea, I agree this administration has shown weakness every chance they get. But my point was s what’s the strategic interest to the U.S. to fight a war for a country ripe with corruption and half a world away. Let the EU defend themselves . Germany and a couple other countries over there there have turned their back on us anyway . When those countries that love to straddle the fence decide they would rather stand with freedom and democracy instead of socialists and dictatorships. Then and only then should we be willing to come to their defense.. Personally, I've a feeling - that the way US developed and managed it's foreign policy - it does not have the foundation of deep thought as in 'Constitution' . Practically foreign policies work not, like any home policy. In a home policy, 'if desired results are not generated, govt. may amend or even rescind it'. A rude example is US immigration policy / Southern Border control - under Trump and now Biden. Maybe reversed again in 2024 - no hard feelings. foreign policies however - once you've dropped a bomb on a city / country, however justified; the largest damage is how the victim country perceives it - whether they erase or modify history. UNESCO World Heritage Site : December 1996, the Genbaku Dome - ergistered on the UNESCO World Heritage List b Its inclusion into the UNESCO list was based on its survival from a destructive force (atomic bomb), the first use of nuclear weapons on a human population, and its representation as a symbol of peace. Delegates to the World Heritage Committee from China and the United States had reservations regarding the confirmation of the memorial as a World Heritage Site. C CHina cited the possibility that the monument could be used to downplay the fact that the victim countries of Japan's aggression suffered the greatest losses of life during the war, and the United States stated that having a memorial to a war site would omit the necessary historical context. - Wikipedia Japan is a close US ally but do they perceive their history like Germany? 
It's a long list and one way to reduce if not erase history is to bridge gap between the two polar powers: US and Russia Trump could see this. |
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The Biden administration has ordered U.S. citizens to evacuate Ukraine… scary thoughts of the evacuation of Afghanistan come to mind. The same people in charge of that fiasco are still in charge. Hopefully they have learned from their past mistakes.
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The Biden administration has ordered U.S. citizens to evacuate Ukraine… scary thoughts of the evacuation of Afghanistan come to mind. The same people in charge of that fiasco are still in charge. Hopefully they have learned from their past mistakes. Of course they learned. There was no negotiating with the Taliban in Ukraine or excluding the local government and we voted the buffoon Trump out. |
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Edited by
Bart
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Fri 01/28/22 05:34 AM
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The Biden administration has ordered U.S. citizens to evacuate Ukraine… scary thoughts of the evacuation of Afghanistan come to mind. The same people in charge of that fiasco are still in charge. Hopefully they have learned from their past mistakes. Of course they learned. There was no negotiating with the Taliban in Ukraine or excluding the local government and we voted the buffoon Trump out. |
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The Biden administration has ordered U.S. citizens to evacuate Ukraine… scary thoughts of the evacuation of Afghanistan come to mind. The same people in charge of that fiasco are still in charge. Hopefully they have learned from their past mistakes. Of course they learned. There was no negotiating with the Taliban in Ukraine or excluding the local government and we voted the buffoon Trump out. Just curious, are you charging Trump rent for living in your head or is he living there rent free???smh |
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