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Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
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Thu 01/24/08 09:15 AM

I must say Funches, I am totally amazed at how many people genuinely can’t comprehend the question you’re asking. This is phenomenal.

All they do is come out swinging in a defensive posture to defend a religious view that isn’t even being attacked.

I can’t believe this thread. It’s hilarious! laugh

the Original Question simply ask believers to think logically which they simply refuse to do .....some scary stuff going on in here



Oh by the way, I haven't read the whole entire thread.

Has anyone even understood the question yet?

Have you had any responses from anyone who even remotely sounded like they actually understood the question?

nope...everyone just parrot the same responses learned during Sunday School Programming... either they say "faith" or "always was"

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Thu 01/24/08 09:19 AM

this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one

according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator

if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation

No the creator didn't just pop out of nothingness. And may I ask the mighty funches how many times this can be explained before your satisfied....Because honestly you will never be happy with the answer because you don't believe in God. And no matter how many times people explain it....you will twist the words to fit "YOUR" logic....So in the end is there actually any use whatsoever for this thread.

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Thu 01/24/08 09:53 AM

No the creator didn't just pop out of nothingness. And may I ask the mighty funches how many times this can be explained before your satisfied....Because honestly you will never be happy with the answer because you don't believe in God. And no matter how many times people explain it....you will twist the words to fit "YOUR" logic....So in the end is there actually any use whatsoever for this thread.


"feralcatlady"...the only requirement that the original question asks... is if your answer to it is "NO".. that you then explain rationally "WHY NOT" and if this simple requirement is met....then so shall satisfaction

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Thu 01/24/08 10:01 AM


No the creator didn't just pop out of nothingness. And may I ask the mighty funches how many times this can be explained before your satisfied....Because honestly you will never be happy with the answer because you don't believe in God. And no matter how many times people explain it....you will twist the words to fit "YOUR" logic....So in the end is there actually any use whatsoever for this thread.


"feralcatlady"...the only requirement that the original question asks... is if your answer to it is "NO".. that you then explain rationally "WHY NOT" and if this simple requirement is met....then so shall satisfaction



I have many times, the problem is your idea of rational and mine are on two different planes that will never jive. So is it best to say.........Agree to disagree and let it die.

If in my heart and soul I know the creator didn't "DID NOT" pop out of nothingness.....Does this not answer your question. I can't give you anymore then that....

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Thu 01/24/08 10:10 AM
Edited by Amorwm7 on Thu 01/24/08 10:12 AM
read the following:

Grand Unified Theorem: Discovery of the Theory of Everything and the Fundamental Building Block of Quantum Theory by Gabriel A. Oyibo
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as it is one step above Estien 's theory, Darwinism, Plank theory, theory of everything from nothing. etc. Dr Oyibo states he received this knowledge from yoruba Edlers of africa. elders who practice IFa and whose ODU via divination is practiced. checkout IFA FA in web. and traditional IFA. Tony's smith page

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Thu 01/24/08 10:12 AM

I have many times,

but never rationally "feralcatlady"


the problem is your idea of rational and mine are on two different planes that will never jive.

my idea of rational means it makes sense so I guess yours is the opposite of that


So is it best to say.........Agree to disagree and let it die.

that's what people say that don't want to know the answer


If in my heart and soul I know the creator didn't "DID NOT" pop out of nothingness.....

that you feel it in your heart and soul may be the result of heartburn or gas but clearly not proof


Does this not answer your question.

...er...no it doesn't...duh

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Thu 01/24/08 10:16 AM
While "Funches" is allowed to present the question, define the terms and judge the answers, you cannot win. Funches is a troll on a mission and has no interest in accepting any answer. Just please, let this thread die.

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Thu 01/24/08 10:19 AM
But not rational to who.....you and this matters why? And because mine doesn't make sense to you....as your doesn't to me.....then what?

But see I have answered over and over.......but you just want to believe what you want to......so be it.

but through it all funches.....one thing has never changed and that is I love ya madly......laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

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Thu 01/24/08 10:21 AM
Edited by Amorwm7 on Thu 01/24/08 10:22 AM
Even truth reaches those that are unable to hear

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Thu 01/24/08 10:21 AM

While "Funches" is allowed to present the question, define the terms and judge the answers, you cannot win. Funches is a troll on a mission and has no interest in accepting any answer. Just please, let this thread die.


so...er...Spidercmb...do that mean that you are still somewhat preturbed with me? ...geez you believers can hold a grudge ...don't you suppose to like "FORGIVE" and stuff

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Thu 01/24/08 10:23 AM

But not rational to who.....you and this matters why? And because mine doesn't make sense to you....as your doesn't to me.....then what?

But see I have answered over and over.......but you just want to believe what you want to......so be it.

but through it all funches.....one thing has never changed and that is I love ya madly......laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:


I know baby...now give daddy some sugar

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Thu 01/24/08 10:24 AM


While "Funches" is allowed to present the question, define the terms and judge the answers, you cannot win. Funches is a troll on a mission and has no interest in accepting any answer. Just please, let this thread die.


so...er...Spidercmb...do that mean that you are still somewhat preturbed with me? ...geez you believers can hold a grudge ...don't you suppose to like "FORGIVE" and stuff


Funches, I have no grudge against you and never did. I realize you are simply trying to get attention and make Christians look bad. I was merely suggesting that since the debate will be never ending, that we end it by not participating. Nothing personal. Honestly, I saw you say something in another thread about me being perturbed by you and I can't think of what you are talking about. You have done nothing but make laughable attempts at controversy since you started posting here. Nothing about that perturbs me. laugh

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Thu 01/24/08 10:26 AM
Edited by feralcatlady on Thu 01/24/08 10:26 AM


But not rational to who.....you and this matters why? And because mine doesn't make sense to you....as your doesn't to me.....then what?

But see I have answered over and over.......but you just want to believe what you want to......so be it.

but through it all funches.....one thing has never changed and that is I love ya madly......laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:



I know baby...now give daddy some sugar




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Thu 01/24/08 10:31 AM
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Thu 01/24/08 10:31 AM




this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one

according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator

if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation



Hi funches! :smile:

Yes the same logic does apply to The Creator

God is The Creator and he exists in spirit
The universe was created by God
The universe was created out of the same material God is composed of… Spirit
We are created by God and are composed of spirit too

Since the answer is yes and not no then I assume no other rational explanation is needed.



..er...sorry "iamageorgiagirl" but if the answer is yes then you just agreed that the creator has a creator ..er....sorry

grumble grumble grumble

I know I was just checking to see if you were paying attention *grins* The true answer is unknown...This thread is really just an entertainment poll...just checking in on you...we've been getting snow down here and I'm bored... yawn

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Thu 01/24/08 10:38 AM
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Thu 01/24/08 10:55 AM
check this out on you tube:Uniting Waves: Intro to Grand Unified Theorem GAGUT 1/5

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Thu 01/24/08 10:58 AM



While "Funches" is allowed to present the question, define the terms and judge the answers, you cannot win. Funches is a troll on a mission and has no interest in accepting any answer. Just please, let this thread die.


so...er...Spidercmb...do that mean that you are still somewhat preturbed with me? ...geez you believers can hold a grudge ...don't you suppose to like "FORGIVE" and stuff


Funches, I have no grudge against you and never did. I realize you are simply trying to get attention and make Christians look bad. I was merely suggesting that since the debate will be never ending, that we end it by not participating. Nothing personal. Honestly, I saw you say something in another thread about me being perturbed by you and I can't think of what you are talking about. You have done nothing but make laughable attempts at controversy since you started posting here. Nothing about that perturbs me. laugh


sorry Spidercmb but you do have the habit of getting frustrated very easily with people when they don't agree with you..and now look at you Spidercmb Jesus attempting to lead people aka (believers) in a revolt and not particpate in a forum of discussion like they can't think for theirselves just because you are like clock work mad again


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Thu 01/24/08 10:59 AM

sorry Spidercmb but you do have the habit of getting frustrated very easily with people when they don't agree with you..and now look at you Spidercmb Jesus attempting to lead people aka (believers) in a revolt and not particpate in a forum of discussion like they can't think for theirselves just because you are like clock work mad again


laugh

What? Maybe you should send me an email to tell me when I'm mad, obviously I don't realize it. Is it normal to smile when you are mad? laugh

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Thu 01/24/08 11:00 AM
I so love you guys.

"SpiderCMB disagrees with us...he must be mad!"

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