more whinging about taxes? They have existed with every POTUS, including capital gains and excise taxes ... it is still not 'theft'.

It isn't the existence of taxes! We all realize governments need a certain amount to operate. Theft comes when government creates some new program we don't need and then taxes us to pay for it without our permission!!

so, in my case, building a wall will be 'theft', because I dont believe we need it and dont give my permission?

Taxes do not require a majority of citizens approval, anymore than a POTUS election does. The existence of those that do not agree does not make it 'theft'. It is still tax like all other tax.

So then,in your view, a tax is just a tax no matter what it is spent on or not spent at all. Do you not expect a benefit from the taxes you pay? Do you trust the government to spend your tax money wisely? Maybe a big difference between us is the level of trust we have in government. I have very little!!!!

in my view, there is no tracker on the money I pay for taxes, so I have NO WAY to know where my money specifically went to in that great big list of accounts the government must pay. So yes, practically speaking, my tax money is tax money whatever tax it is.

As to whether I expect a benefit, no and yes. No. I do not expect everything to directly benefit me. but Yes, I do expect a benefit for the COUNTRY in terms of its citizens in general.

Do I trust the government to spend my money wisely? Again, I dont know that they track what money is mine or what money comes from the millions of others who pay taxes or create revenue. I do expect them to budget revenue and taxes responsibly though.

Maybe the difference is our view of 'government'. I dont view them as a standalone entity, but a group of humans. and I trust them as much or little as any other humans.

Hmmm, if the site https://www.atr.org/full-list-ACA-tax-hikes-a6996 is legit and unbiased, maybe it would not mind listing the House bill numbers that resulted in these "taxes" on such questionable things as tanning salons and black liquor? Methinks we might have a little bit of "fake news" on the website you cited? I don't think half of these are real taxes, because they would have had to have had House bill numbers.... a House that was, by the way, Republican controlled under the last President.

<crickets>

And wow, while we are waiting for those (non-existent)bill numbers, let's talk about Presidents who truly can be PROVEN as thieves, using government proceedings to line their OWN pockets?

What would you say about a President that requires anyone petitioning the government in favor of a merger (such as John Legere of T-Mobile and Marcelo Claure of Sprint) to stay at HIS hotel in DC? John Legere has been quite candid and quoted in a number of trade rags regarding the number of days he has had to be in DC, and staying at the Trump Hotel DC, in order to continue testifying in favor of the TMobile-Sprint merger. This money goes right in the pocket of the POTUS. The visits to DC keep piling up too, every time groups like the FCC "reset the shot clock" (as the govt calls it) on the merger, requiring Sprint and TMobile to come to DC with more documents.... And do you think this is the only legal action being heard by the Government?

Also, when Trump takes his weekly junkets to Mar-a-Tacky, do you think all his Secret Service detail and government-expense entourage are given free rooms on the premises? Do you think they are given free food? I doubt The Trumpster Fire dines on McDonands there, but on the priciest well-done steak smothered in catsup (gross, no class, and an abomination to cattle men everywhere, but the Emperor likes it...)... Let's see, we taxpayers pay for the food and lodging, and Trump sells it to us. PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEKEND.

I mean, W spent a lot of time on his ranch in Crawford, but he did not own the restaurants or hotel rooms where his massive number of government entourage needs to eat and sleep.

Question: Trump made a big deal of saying "I bought this myself" when he brought a fast-food buffet in for the college boys. Trump Hotel DC (where all having business with the government are required to stay) is right down the street; couldn't he have called down there and bought some REAL food with his "own" money to feed the kids?

Go pull up the financing section of the ACA passed by the democratic congress and signed by Obama. That same one Pelosi said they had to pass so everyone could know what was in it. They were not separate tax increases but part of the ACA legislation.

I love that there are always lots of accusations, but it always seems that folks are short on supporting facts. To which I say, "No supporting facts? Must be FAKE NEWS if you can't prove it!"

No comment on the current Thief in Chief TRULY lining his pockets with our money. I didn't expect you would. Obama's ACA fixed a great portion of our healthcare, which was in SCARY shape. (I was a consultant working on said ACA programs, if you need any proof of what Obama did to make sure trauma care was improved in "trauma centers" across the country) However, out CURRENT resident of the White House can't seem to do a thing other than make himself richer at the expense of the US Taxpayer, and feed his great ego.

Thanks for playing.

So why are they listed as multiple tax increases? By your own words, the site is misleading and FAKE.

Wake up America, the President is picking your pocket and you are supporting him!


Of course, why should Trump supporters care, it is Blue States that are paying the majority of taxes, so that Red States can suck up most of the welfare $$$:

AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states
https://www.apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c

Wow, OldKid or Toody, no rebuttal when the FACTS are put in front of you?

Sheep. Pied Piper Combover and his friends have you buffaloed, and you just. can't. admit. it.

Sleep tight... I know he bankrupted 4 casinos, but he couldn't POSSIBLY milk a country into bankruptcy as well, right? Did I hear he is in Mar-a-Tacky again this weekend? Hmm, who owns that hotel where everyone is staying and dining?