Topic: TO BE RID OF A PRESIDENT....
no photo
Sun 01/06/19 01:35 PM
Trump Calls Those Who Don't Support His Wall 'Criminals'

"President Donald Trump insisted again in a tweet Saturday that there is overwhelming support for border security and his southern border wall. He declared that “everyone” wants it “very badly” — except for “drug dealers, human traffickers, and criminals. In fact, no poll has found that most Americans support the wall or support funding for it.

A Quinnipiac poll in December found that 54 percent of Americans opposed the wall, while a Harvard CAPS/Harris survey the same month found that 56 percent did not support a wall. Only 35 percent of those surveyed in a Reuters/Ipsos poll supported including money for the wall in a federal spending bill".


http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-those-don-apos-003238660.html

December 18, 2018 - U.S. Voters Say No Wall And Don't Shut Down Government, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Focus On Issues, Not Impeachment, Voters Tell Dems 7-1

" American voters oppose building a wall on the Mexican border 54 - 43 percent and say 54 - 44 percent the wall is not necessary to improve border security, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today".

http://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2590


Trump Says Country Wants Border Wall, But That’s Not What Polls Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-americans-support-border-wall_us_5c2e9aaae4b05c88b70798d1



This is Trump's border wall. Only a few feel the same as he does. The country at large doesn't.






no photo
Sun 01/06/19 04:16 PM
im for the wall because it will stop drugs if people want in im not against it but do it the legal way that way they cant throw you out but it seems to me no one likes america but they sure want to live here we need to get our companies back here so we can have jobs for people here we also need to stop all these people from coming here and wanting to change our way of living if its so bad here why do you want to live here and if you want to live here fine but learn our language

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/06/19 05:38 PM
I am not for holding the income of AMerican citizens as blackmail for money for a wall that will take time to build and is really not an emergency at all.


no photo
Sun 01/06/19 05:38 PM

im for the wall because it will stop drugs if people want in im not against it but do it the legal way that way they cant throw you out but it seems to me no one likes America but they sure want to live here we need to get our companies back here so we can have jobs for people here we also need to stop all these people from coming here and wanting to change our way of living if its so bad here why do you want to live here and if you want to live here fine but learn our language


I respectfully disagree with that statement. Building a wall will do nothing. For the drug dealers, the wall will not even be a blip on their radar. At the most, it will be a minor inconvenience. All they will do is find another plain or boat to bring it in with. Or maybe some crooked politician that's willing to turn a blind eye for the right amount of money. Maybe even the mayor of some far-flung backwoods county that's willing to let them fly in at some remote part of the county. For the right amount of money, people can be bought. We are talking a billion dollar a year business here. They will find another way. They always do. And always will.


hardBNhard's photo
Sun 01/06/19 05:49 PM
Not to mention the drones they now use to fly drugs over
undetected . Border agents want money to combat this technology NOT WALLS

no photo
Tue 01/08/19 10:59 AM
Edited by Colt45 on Tue 01/08/19 11:00 AM

im for the wall because it will stop drugs if people want in im not against it but do it the legal way that way they cant throw you out but it seems to me no one likes america but they sure want to live here we need to get our companies back here so we can have jobs for people here we also need to stop all these people from coming here and wanting to change our way of living if its so bad here why do you want to live here and if you want to live here fine but learn our language


How will you go about getting ladders and shovels banned?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/10/solar-powered-drug-tunnel-discovered-on-mexican-border-with-california

Solar-powered drug tunnel discovered on Mexican border with California

Tunnel had rail system along its 627ft length
Builders had yet to break surface on US side of border

US and Mexican authorities have discovered an incomplete cross-border drug smuggling tunnel complete with a rail track and a solar-powered lighting and ventilation system.

The US border patrol said on Tuesday that the clandestine passage measured 627 feet (191 meters), including 336ft inside US territory, in California. The tunnel builders had started working on an exit shaft north of the border, but had not broken the surface before it was discovered.
US agents find major Mexico drug tunnel covered by bin in California
Read more

Mexican police discovered the tunnel on 19 September while searching a home 221ft south of the border, in the town of Jacume, in Baja California state.

The border patrol said that a solar panel system had been set up to power lighting and ventilation systems inside the tunnel, which was also equipped with a rail system along its entire length, and two pumps to drain water.

Drug smugglers often use tunnels to move their products across the US-Mexico border; dozens have been discovered in recent years – mostly in California and Arizona.

The San Diego-Tijuana region is popular because its clay-like soil is relatively easy to dig with shovels and pneumatic tools, and both sides of the border have warehouses that provide cover for trucks and heavy equipment.

The strategy was pioneered by the former head of the Sinaloa cartel, Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, who is currently awaiting trial in New York.

In 2015, Guzmán escaped from a maximum security prison through a hole in his shower floor which lead to a mile-long tunnel equipped with a modified motorcycle on rails. He was recaptured six months later and extradited to the US last year.

Oh my! What will your magical wall ever do about that?

no photo
Tue 01/08/19 12:03 PM


im for the wall because it will stop drugs if people want in im not against it but do it the legal way that way they cant throw you out but it seems to me no one likes america but they sure want to live here we need to get our companies back here so we can have jobs for people here we also need to stop all these people from coming here and wanting to change our way of living if its so bad here why do you want to live here and if you want to live here fine but learn our language


How will you go about getting ladders and shovels banned?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/10/solar-powered-drug-tunnel-discovered-on-mexican-border-with-california

Solar-powered drug tunnel discovered on Mexican border with California

Tunnel had rail system along its 627ft length
Builders had yet to break surface on US side of border

US and Mexican authorities have discovered an incomplete cross-border drug smuggling tunnel complete with a rail track and a solar-powered lighting and ventilation system.

The US border patrol said on Tuesday that the clandestine passage measured 627 feet (191 meters), including 336ft inside US territory, in California. The tunnel builders had started working on an exit shaft north of the border, but had not broken the surface before it was discovered.
US agents find major Mexico drug tunnel covered by bin in California
Read more

Mexican police discovered the tunnel on 19 September while searching a home 221ft south of the border, in the town of Jacume, in Baja California state.

The border patrol said that a solar panel system had been set up to power lighting and ventilation systems inside the tunnel, which was also equipped with a rail system along its entire length, and two pumps to drain water.

Drug smugglers often use tunnels to move their products across the US-Mexico border; dozens have been discovered in recent years – mostly in California and Arizona.

The San Diego-Tijuana region is popular because its clay-like soil is relatively easy to dig with shovels and pneumatic tools, and both sides of the border have warehouses that provide cover for trucks and heavy equipment.

The strategy was pioneered by the former head of the Sinaloa cartel, Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, who is currently awaiting trial in New York.

In 2015, Guzmán escaped from a maximum security prison through a hole in his shower floor which lead to a mile-long tunnel equipped with a modified motorcycle on rails. He was recaptured six months later and extradited to the US last year.

Oh my! What will your magical wall ever do about that?


Just wanted to make your link "live". It backs up what I've been saying all along.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/10/solar-powered-drug-tunnel-discovered-on-mexican-border-with-california


Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 01/08/19 12:31 PM

Except that dems have no clue what the truth is.



:thumbsup:




Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 01/08/19 12:33 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 01/08/19 12:33 PM
Obsma spent More than any past President. He's out finally!!

US never needs another President like him.

Leftist ignorance.

no photo
Tue 01/08/19 02:01 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Tue 01/08/19 02:18 PM
It's amazing to me how misinformed the right is.


Don't Blame Obama For Doubling The Federal Deficit

"Republicans use a sound bite that the federal debt doubled under Obama. In looking at the numbers that are close to being numerically correct but falls short of being 100%. However when you take into account the Great Recession, making W. Bush’s temporary tax cuts permanent, increased Social Security and Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/01/15/obamas-federal-debt-grew-at-a-slower-rate-than-reagan-h-w-bush-or-w-bush/#6b9dc5ce1917

Obsma spent More than any past President.


Mostly untrue. Mostly another lie spread by the radical far right. The usual half-truth or whole lie.

http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/may/04/chain-email/obama-has-added-more-national-debt-previous-43-pre/

US Debt by President by Dollar and Percent

"Who Increased the U.S. Debt the Most? Depends on How You Measure It".

http://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

no photo
Tue 01/08/19 02:45 PM
Oh. obama didn't double the national debt. Is that ten trillion just an arbitrary number pulled out of the air? Try again.

Then we have the chuck and nancy show after Trump's speech this evening, trying to explain away why america is safe with open borders. Like, nothing will happen with lots of illegals crossing over into our country. Rather like that drunk illegal mexican that ran a stop sign and plowed into my then wifes van. Just the fact that he had no licence, no insurance, and ran away when the police showed up, that doesn't mean a thing.

I'd love to see some illegals put a ladder up against the wall, then haul it over it and climb down the other side with it. I'd need a lawn chair and a beer for that show! What side of the wall will they fall over? Will it break in half? Or, will they drop it? Or will they set it up, upside down, and it telescope down with them on it? That could be better than tv. A 175 pound extension ladder isn't something one just throws around.

Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 01/08/19 04:44 PM

dammit you americans have the best president ever and cant see it, would love him to lead the uk, ive seen your fake news lmao



A Foriegn person sees the Truth.


msharmony's photo
Tue 01/08/19 07:43 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/08/19 07:44 PM

Obsma spent More than any past President. He's out finally!!

US never needs another President like him.

Leftist ignorance.


ignorance is bliss.

the actual numbers.

Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29-percent increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017.

FY 2021 - $1.119 trillion.
FY 2020 - $1.198 trillion.
FY 2019 - $1.225 trillion.
FY 2018 - $1.233 trillion.
Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74-percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

FY 2017 - $672 billion.
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
FY 2015 - $327 billion.
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
FY 2013 - $672 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion

http://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

for those who enjoy math

in Baraks first two fiscal years, after a NEAR depression, we spent almost 2.9 trillion

in Trumps first two fiscal years, with NO near depression inherited, we are projected to spend 2.4 trillion,,, not too far behind.

so if people are looking to be concerned about what is spent, they might not wanna praise Trump in that area just yet.


msharmony's photo
Tue 01/08/19 07:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/08/19 07:48 PM

Oh. obama didn't double the national debt. Is that ten trillion just an arbitrary number pulled out of the air? Try again.

Then we have the chuck and nancy show after Trump's speech this evening, trying to explain away why america is safe with open borders. Like, nothing will happen with lots of illegals crossing over into our country. Rather like that drunk illegal mexican that ran a stop sign and plowed into my then wifes van. Just the fact that he had no licence, no insurance, and ran away when the police showed up, that doesn't mean a thing.

I'd love to see some illegals put a ladder up against the wall, then haul it over it and climb down the other side with it. I'd need a lawn chair and a beer for that show! What side of the wall will they fall over? Will it break in half? Or, will they drop it? Or will they set it up, upside down, and it telescope down with them on it? That could be better than tv. A 175 pound extension ladder isn't something one just throws around.


technically, if one starts at 11,657 trillion and adds 8.58 trillion, they have not doubled the deficit. That is an increase of 75 percent, not 100.

(see link above)

on the other hand, Reagan increased it by 186 percent and Bush by 101.

no photo
Tue 01/08/19 08:41 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Tue 01/08/19 08:43 PM


Oh. obama didn't double the national debt. Is that ten trillion just an arbitrary number pulled out of the air? Try again.

Then we have the chuck and nancy show after Trump's speech this evening, trying to explain away why america is safe with open borders. Like, nothing will happen with lots of illegals crossing over into our country. Rather like that drunk illegal mexican that ran a stop sign and plowed into my then wifes van. Just the fact that he had no licence, no insurance, and ran away when the police showed up, that doesn't mean a thing.

I'd love to see some illegals put a ladder up against the wall, then haul it over it and climb down the other side with it. I'd need a lawn chair and a beer for that show! What side of the wall will they fall over? Will it break in half? Or, will they drop it? Or will they set it up, upside down, and it telescope down with them on it? That could be better than tv. A 175 pound extension ladder isn't something one just throws around.


technically, if one starts at 11,657 trillion and adds 8.58 trillion, they have not doubled the deficit. That is an increase of 75 percent, not 100.

(see link above)

on the other hand, Reagan increased it by 186 percent and Bush by 101.



They would know this if they would read. But to them, it seems ignorance is bliss. They seem to like arguing there point with nothing to back it up. If I were a betting man, I would bet that these people were glued to there TV while Trump spilled his lies ready to lap up everything he said. And believe it wholeheartedly. With ZERO to back it up. Even though he gets proven a lier almost every day. Right now, the biggest lie, The lie of "open borders". They never have been "open". What happened to the "thousands" of "migrants" that were walking to our border? That was another lie started by Trump that his followers lapped up.

But then again, Trump has told so many whopper lies the past 2 years, how anyone could believe one word out of his mouth is beyond me.

They worry about a wall. When they should be worrying about what's right under their feet.

Repost from earlier today.

Solar-powered drug tunnel discovered on Mexican border with California

"US and Mexican authorities have discovered an incomplete cross-border drug smuggling tunnel complete with a rail track and a solar-powered lighting and ventilation system".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/10/solar-powered-drug-tunnel-discovered-on-mexican-border-with-california




Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 01/09/19 03:17 PM
21.3 % of US population was on government assistance of some kind when last administration was in office.
52.2 million people.

Yes Demos need more in the US to jump on that gravy train !! NOT

Thanks Obama!


hardBNhard's photo
Wed 01/09/19 04:42 PM
whoa offtopic

no photo
Wed 01/09/19 06:54 PM

21.3 % of US population was on government assistance of some kind when last administration was in office.
52.2 million people.

Yes Demos need more in the US to jump on that gravy train !! NOT

Thanks Obama!




Lyndon Johnson figured that one out back in the 60's. Getting money from the government? Vote that party out, your handout may stop. Commonly called paying for votes.

hardBNhard's photo
Wed 01/09/19 08:20 PM
60 years later and back to reality
You know what is the truth ?
That 6 1/2 million people and the number grows daily to impeach
the worst president ever to hold office .
>>> NEEDTOIMPEACH.COM >>> needtoimpeach
Lets build a WALL of support for this movement

msharmony's photo
Wed 01/09/19 10:02 PM

21.3 % of US population was on government assistance of some kind when last administration was in office.
52.2 million people.

Yes Demos need more in the US to jump on that gravy train !! NOT

Thanks Obama!




those dang on elderly people, sick people, and children ... all Obama's doing ...lol.