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Topic: Twitter permanently bans Alex Jones,
greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Tue 09/18/18 04:20 AM
i find it ironic that people who SUPPORT Alex Jones using a private company's platform (twitter and such) to make known his views on a subject are AGAINST Colin Kaepernick's use of a private company (NFL football) to do essentially the same thing.. you can't have it both ways..unless of course, you're a hypocrite.. But the left is having it both ways. And I agree. It is the same ' platform" concept So why is Colin still allowed to use it and this guy is not. By your words it is the same. So why the double standard ? Want to be fair..let them both stay or throw both of them off ...but the left would put up quite a scene if ole Colin was yanked. Wouldn't they whoever the Left is...idk the NFL addressed the issue by changing their rulebook of REQUIRING the players to be on the field during the pre-game patriotic ceremonies and now allow them, if they choose. to remain in the locker room...if the player chooses to participate a certain amount of respect (standing) for the Anthem will be expected....personally, i side with the league and owners, now that this change has been made... Alex can get his own website if he chooses to, and i suppose Colin can buy a ticket to an NFL game and kneel during the Anthem if he chooses to...neither mans 1st amendment are being violated... Now i'm waiting on Lebron to take a knee on the first game of the NBA season, because they have the same rule FORCING them to be on the court and stand at attention during the Anthem really, i never understood why the Anthem is even played at a sports event in the first place... I bet you do ... patriotic displays promote military recruitment and loyalty to nation, sometimes chosen and sometimes forced, one way or the other. some of our biggest audiences prone to some of the most blind loyalty, are sports fans. no better place to market the military brand. Well you had no problem spending that military pay check when your husband was in the service . Did you Did someone twist his arm to join?.. defensive much? yes, my husband and I did use the money WE earned from whatever job We worked at. What has that to do with anything? Not defensive at all. Just pointing out a hypocrite You stood many time for the anthem when there was money involved..now you have a problem with it. When you are not getting money

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 09/18/18 04:23 AM
i find it ironic that people who SUPPORT Alex Jones using a private company's platform (twitter and such) to make known his views on a subject are AGAINST Colin Kaepernick's use of a private company (NFL football) to do essentially the same thing.. you can't have it both ways..unless of course, you're a hypocrite.. But the left is having it both ways. And I agree. It is the same ' platform" concept So why is Colin still allowed to use it and this guy is not. By your words it is the same. So why the double standard ? Want to be fair..let them both stay or throw both of them off ...but the left would put up quite a scene if ole Colin was yanked. Wouldn't they whoever the Left is...idk the NFL addressed the issue by changing their rulebook of REQUIRING the players to be on the field during the pre-game patriotic ceremonies and now allow them, if they choose. to remain in the locker room...if the player chooses to participate a certain amount of respect (standing) for the Anthem will be expected....personally, i side with the league and owners, now that this change has been made... Alex can get his own website if he chooses to, and i suppose Colin can buy a ticket to an NFL game and kneel during the Anthem if he chooses to...neither mans 1st amendment are being violated... Now i'm waiting on Lebron to take a knee on the first game of the NBA season, because they have the same rule FORCING them to be on the court and stand at attention during the Anthem really, i never understood why the Anthem is even played at a sports event in the first place... I bet you do ... patriotic displays promote military recruitment and loyalty to nation, sometimes chosen and sometimes forced, one way or the other. some of our biggest audiences prone to some of the most blind loyalty, are sports fans. no better place to market the military brand. Well you had no problem spending that military pay check when your husband was in the service . Did you Did someone twist his arm to join?.. defensive much? yes, my husband and I did use the money WE earned from whatever job We worked at. What has that to do with anything? Not defensive at all. Just pointing out a hypocrite You stood many time for the anthem when there was money involved..now you have a problem with it. When you are not getting money what exactly was hypocritical about a statement that the anthem is used as branding for military enrollment? And I dont stand, actually, I dont believe in idolization of material things. And there is no 'problem' in understanding how promotion works. it is what it is.

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Tue 09/18/18 05:01 AM
i find it ironic that people who SUPPORT Alex Jones using a private company's platform (twitter and such) to make known his views on a subject are AGAINST Colin Kaepernick's use of a private company (NFL football) to do essentially the same thing.. you can't have it both ways..unless of course, you're a hypocrite.. But the left is having it both ways. And I agree. It is the same ' platform" concept So why is Colin still allowed to use it and this guy is not. By your words it is the same. So why the double standard ? Want to be fair..let them both stay or throw both of them off ...but the left would put up quite a scene if ole Colin was yanked. Wouldn't they whoever the Left is...idk the NFL addressed the issue by changing their rulebook of REQUIRING the players to be on the field during the pre-game patriotic ceremonies and now allow them, if they choose. to remain in the locker room...if the player chooses to participate a certain amount of respect (standing) for the Anthem will be expected....personally, i side with the league and owners, now that this change has been made... Alex can get his own website if he chooses to, and i suppose Colin can buy a ticket to an NFL game and kneel during the Anthem if he chooses to...neither mans 1st amendment are being violated... Now i'm waiting on Lebron to take a knee on the first game of the NBA season, because they have the same rule FORCING them to be on the court and stand at attention during the Anthem really, i never understood why the Anthem is even played at a sports event in the first place... I bet you do ... patriotic displays promote military recruitment and loyalty to nation, sometimes chosen and sometimes forced, one way or the other. some of our biggest audiences prone to some of the most blind loyalty, are sports fans. no better place to market the military brand. Well you had no problem spending that military pay check when your husband was in the service . Did you Did someone twist his arm to join?.. defensive much? yes, my husband and I did use the money WE earned from whatever job We worked at. What has that to do with anything? Not defensive at all. Just pointing out a hypocrite You stood many time for the anthem when there was money involved..now you have a problem with it. When you are not getting money what exactly was hypocritical about a statement that the anthem is used as branding for military enrollment? And I dont stand, actually, I dont believe in idolization of material things. And there is no 'problem' in understanding how promotion works. it is what it is. Are you stating that in the 4 or 6 years that your husband was in the service you were not at ANY military functions with him where the national anthem was played? You were never on base when it was played and people stood? And when it was. You did not stand? I think you were. And you did..because while you may not idolize material things you sure as hell liked the pay check and benifits And that is a hypocrite

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 09/18/18 08:50 AM Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/18/18 08:54 AM
i find it ironic that people who SUPPORT Alex Jones using a private company's platform (twitter and such) to make known his views on a subject are AGAINST Colin Kaepernick's use of a private company (NFL football) to do essentially the same thing.. you can't have it both ways..unless of course, you're a hypocrite.. But the left is having it both ways. And I agree. It is the same ' platform" concept So why is Colin still allowed to use it and this guy is not. By your words it is the same. So why the double standard ? Want to be fair..let them both stay or throw both of them off ...but the left would put up quite a scene if ole Colin was yanked. Wouldn't they whoever the Left is...idk the NFL addressed the issue by changing their rulebook of REQUIRING the players to be on the field during the pre-game patriotic ceremonies and now allow them, if they choose. to remain in the locker room...if the player chooses to participate a certain amount of respect (standing) for the Anthem will be expected....personally, i side with the league and owners, now that this change has been made... Alex can get his own website if he chooses to, and i suppose Colin can buy a ticket to an NFL game and kneel during the Anthem if he chooses to...neither mans 1st amendment are being violated... Now i'm waiting on Lebron to take a knee on the first game of the NBA season, because they have the same rule FORCING them to be on the court and stand at attention during the Anthem really, i never understood why the Anthem is even played at a sports event in the first place... I bet you do ... patriotic displays promote military recruitment and loyalty to nation, sometimes chosen and sometimes forced, one way or the other. some of our biggest audiences prone to some of the most blind loyalty, are sports fans. no better place to market the military brand. Well you had no problem spending that military pay check when your husband was in the service . Did you Did someone twist his arm to join?.. defensive much? yes, my husband and I did use the money WE earned from whatever job We worked at. What has that to do with anything? Not defensive at all. Just pointing out a hypocrite You stood many time for the anthem when there was money involved..now you have a problem with it. When you are not getting money what exactly was hypocritical about a statement that the anthem is used as branding for military enrollment? And I dont stand, actually, I dont believe in idolization of material things. And there is no 'problem' in understanding how promotion works. it is what it is. Are you stating that in the 4 or 6 years that your husband was in the service you were not at ANY military functions with him where the national anthem was played? You were never on base when it was played and people stood? And when it was. You did not stand? I think you were. And you did..because while you may not idolize material things you sure as hell liked the pay check and benifits And that is a hypocrite No. I didnt state any information about what I went to during his enlistment. If you are asking. I did NOT attend anything on base where I had to stand for an anthem. I went to functions with HIS crew and his group of friends from his ship. He had six month tours, two or maybe THREE times during those four years, where they were gone with each other from their wives and families and that doesnt include boot camp which I obviously also did not attend with him. And as I said, I dont idolize flags or other material things and am not a 'hypocrite' for spending money that has been earned by my husband or for me. hypocrite: one who engages in hypocrisy hypocrisy: the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. ... still waiting to hear what standard or belief I put forward that I did not conform to

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Tue 09/18/18 01:27 PM
Yeah. I got it..you will take the pay check from the U.S. and enjoy protesting it at the same time . Doesn't matter how you spin it..that's what you did

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 09/18/18 02:19 PM Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/18/18 02:22 PM
Yeah. I got it..you will take the pay check from the U.S. and enjoy protesting it at the same time . Doesn't matter how you spin it..that's what you did lol, once again, is there any LEGITIMATE reason anyone should not be paid what they EARN? Last I checked, it was not a flag or anthem that signed his checks. and no one here is protesting the military which employed my husband. Doesnt matter how you spin it, accusing me of hypocrisy in this situation has no merit. People should be free to choose a military career or not. the military should be free to invest in promotion or not. and people should be free to participate in patriotic customs or not. find the hypocrisy in that.

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Wed 09/19/18 04:07 AM
Yeah. I got it..you will take the pay check from the U.S. and enjoy protesting it at the same time . Doesn't matter how you spin it..that's what you did lol, once again, is there any LEGITIMATE reason anyone should not be paid what they EARN? Last I checked, it was not a flag or anthem that signed his checks. and no one here is protesting the military which employed my husband. Doesnt matter how you spin it, accusing me of hypocrisy in this situation has no merit. People should be free to choose a military career or not. the military should be free to invest in promotion or not. and people should be free to participate in patriotic customs or not. find the hypocrisy in that. Well, what can I say, when someone makes a statement either you believe it or not. And frankly, I don't believe yours, which was that in all those years on base you never stood for the anthem. Not in the boot camp graduation thru all the years on a military base. I think you never " protested", took the money.. and now you are vocal about it since you don't get that money anymore. But otherscan decide for themselves.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 09/19/18 04:48 AM
Yeah. I got it..you will take the pay check from the U.S. and enjoy protesting it at the same time . Doesn't matter how you spin it..that's what you did lol, once again, is there any LEGITIMATE reason anyone should not be paid what they EARN? Last I checked, it was not a flag or anthem that signed his checks. and no one here is protesting the military which employed my husband. Doesnt matter how you spin it, accusing me of hypocrisy in this situation has no merit. People should be free to choose a military career or not. the military should be free to invest in promotion or not. and people should be free to participate in patriotic customs or not. find the hypocrisy in that. Well, what can I say, when someone makes a statement either you believe it or not. And frankly, I don't believe yours, which was that in all those years on base you never stood for the anthem. Not in the boot camp graduation thru all the years on a military base. I think you never " protested", took the money.. and now you are vocal about it since you don't get that money anymore. But otherscan decide for themselves. sounds like a personal issue to me. As I said, 'all those years' amounted to four, before I moved back home because military life and all the seperation were not for me. I did not attend a SINGLE EVENT where I was required to or did stand for an anthem during the times when he was not out to tour on a boat, and certainly not during the times when he was. we had our 'family' which was his circle of friends on the ship and we had our OWN get togethers and events, and that was enough. We never lived on military bases. And at graduation I did stand, to applaud the Live and in the flesh PERSONS who had survived and graduated boot camp, but not for the anthem or the flag. There was a large audience, and I was not the only one who had and made the CHOICE to stay seated. I think you have confused a simple statement about how the military promotes enlistment with a 'protest'. Thats also a personal thing, I guess.

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Wed 09/19/18 08:56 AM
I think that it is ironically HILARIOUS how a1l of these self proclaimed 'patriots' don't even have the slightest idea of what the REAL patriots who have served and fought to uphold our constitution have been fighting for!!! [or,it would be if it wasn't so SAD!!!] so,if you REALLY want to thank the people who have fought and died to make sure that you can enjoy your constitutional rights,and freedoms that we have in this country,dont let small minded people who have their own agendas convince you that you HAVE TO express yourself the way that THEY think that you should,cuz that is INSULTING to us!! and,also,contact your congressmen,senators,and state representatives and tell them to quit cutting funding for education so that they can give their super wealthy campaign donors tax breaks,and start teaching CIVICS in our schools again,cuz there are A LOT of people who have a SEVERE misunderstanding of what 'freedom',and 'the bill of rights' in our constitution actually means!!! #endthestupidity

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Wed 09/19/18 09:11 AM


msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 09/19/18 09:31 AM
I think that it is ironically HILARIOUS how a1l of these self proclaimed 'patriots' don't even have the slightest idea of what the REAL patriots who have served and fought to uphold our constitution have been fighting for!!! [or,it would be if it wasn't so SAD!!!] so,if you REALLY want to thank the people who have fought and died to make sure that you can enjoy your constitutional rights,and freedoms that we have in this country,dont let small minded people who have their own agendas convince you that you HAVE TO express yourself the way that THEY think that you should,cuz that is INSULTING to us!! and,also,contact your congressmen,senators,and state representatives and tell them to quit cutting funding for education so that they can give their super wealthy campaign donors tax breaks,and start teaching CIVICS in our schools again,cuz there are A LOT of people who have a SEVERE misunderstanding of what 'freedom',and 'the bill of rights' in our constitution actually means!!! #endthestupidity Im glad you understand. My feelings about customs and flags are nothing to do with my feelings about the men and women who are serving. I have felt that way about shows of patriotism since childhood and my brother was a naval captain at the time.

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Wed 09/19/18 10:48 AM
Yeah. I got it..you will take the pay check from the U.S. and enjoy protesting it at the same time . Doesn't matter how you spin it..that's what you did lol, once again, is there any LEGITIMATE reason anyone should not be paid what they EARN? Last I checked, it was not a flag or anthem that signed his checks. and no one here is protesting the military which employed my husband. Doesnt matter how you spin it, accusing me of hypocrisy in this situation has no merit. People should be free to choose a military career or not. the military should be free to invest in promotion or not. and people should be free to participate in patriotic customs or not. find the hypocrisy in that. Well, what can I say, when someone makes a statement either you believe it or not. And frankly, I don't believe yours, which was that in all those years on base you never stood for the anthem. Not in the boot camp graduation thru all the years on a military base. I think you never " protested", took the money.. and now you are vocal about it since you don't get that money anymore. But otherscan decide for themselves. sounds like a personal issue to me. As I said, 'all those years' amounted to four, before I moved back home because military life and all the seperation were not for me. I did not attend a SINGLE EVENT where I was required to or did stand for an anthem during the times when he was not out to tour on a boat, and certainly not during the times when he was. we had our 'family' which was his circle of friends on the ship and we had our OWN get togethers and events, and that was enough. We never lived on military bases. And at graduation I did stand, to applaud the Live and in the flesh PERSONS who had survived and graduated boot camp, but not for the anthem or the flag. There was a large audience, and I was not the only one who had and made the CHOICE to stay seated. I think you have confused a simple statement about how the military promotes enlistment with a 'protest'. Thats also a personal thing, I guess. Personnel Observation..not issue ;)

shovelheaddave Joined Fri 05/11/18 Posts: 668	Fri 09/21/18 12:49 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/09/21/paypal-bans-alex-jones-saying-infowars-promoted-hate-or-discriminatory-intolerance/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1bfa78bf3349 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ it see like PAYPAL also decided to exercise THEIR right to freedom of speech by telling alex jones/infowars that they no longer wanted to do business with him/his show because he/his program "was responsible for promoting hate against minorities,and discriminatory intolerance against certain communities and religions, which run counter to our core value of inclusion.”! PayPal’s decision Friday makes it the latest tech company to ban Jones and his content from its platform, following in the footsteps of Apple, Facebook,Twitter and Google, among others. this is sure to hit alex jones/infowars in the place where it will hurt them the most... in their wallets! Research by Columbia University’s Tow Center for Digital Journalism has found that Jones has been successful at turning his hate filled,and discriminantory rants and headlines into e-commerce revenue,but his revenue could completely dry up without an online payment processor! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ but,all y'all infowars fans,dont lose hope... his show might be being shunned now by most of the civilized world because of its hate filled rants,and discriminatory messages,but maybe alex jones can start selling his PLASMA,or something to continue funding his show??

d__u__b Joined Thu 05/15/14 Posts: 15048	Fri 09/21/18 01:06 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/09/21/paypal-bans-alex-jones-saying-infowars-promoted-hate-or-discriminatory-intolerance/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1bfa78bf3349 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ it see like PAYPAL also decided to exercise THEIR right to freedom of speech by telling alex jones/infowars that they no longer wanted to do business with him/his show because he/his program "was responsible for promoting hate against minorities,and discriminatory intolerance against certain communities and religions, which run counter to our core value of inclusion.”! PayPal’s decision Friday makes it the latest tech company to ban Jones and his content from its platform, following in the footsteps of Apple, Facebook,Twitter and Google, among others. this is sure to hit alex jones/infowars in the place where it will hurt them the most... in their wallets! Research by Columbia University’s Tow Center for Digital Journalism has found that Jones has been successful at turning his hate filled,and discriminantory rants and headlines into e-commerce revenue,but his revenue could completely dry up without an online payment processor! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ but,all y'all infowars fans,dont lose hope... his show might be being shunned now by most of the civilized world because of its hate filled rants,and discriminatory messages,but maybe alex jones can start selling his PLASMA,or something to continue funding his show?? pffft...like anyone wants plasma from such a spineless, blithering idiot, let alone PAY him for it.

Charles1962150 Joined Tue 03/13/12 Posts: 3403	Fri 09/21/18 11:54 PM
PayPal ends business dealings with Alex Jones's Infowars "(Reuters) - Payments processor PayPal Holdings Inc said on Friday it decided to end its business relationship with popular U.S. conspiracy theorist Alex Jones’s Infowars website after finding instances of hate speech and discriminatory content on the site". http://www.reuters.com/article/us-paypal-hldg-infowars/paypal-ends-business-dealings-with-alex-joness-infowars-idUSKCN1M12NT

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sat 09/22/18 02:46 AM
Liberals are all for censorship. They want their voice to be the only one heard. It doesn't stop people from having a different opinion.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 09/22/18 07:39 AM
State censorship is one thing. DISCRETION over one's website is another. Websites have terms of agreement that are AGREED upon from the beginning. if one wishes not to be subject, they should move on. If they agree to be subject, they agree to the guidelines. conservative OR liberal.