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Topic: Trump and the news media
Easttowest72's photo
Mon 06/04/18 11:47 AM
Send them home. They are draining our welfare system and taking our jobs. They pile up like sardines in a meat can in one house and ruin the plumbing. As far as documents go, I know an illegal who owned his own business. He could afford it because his woman and 4 kids were receiving welfare. They live very well here.

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Mon 06/04/18 11:52 AM
A bunch of Illegals ruin plumbing by just living there? It's worse than I thought scared

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/04/18 12:36 PM

A bunch of Illegals ruin plumbing by just living there? It's worse than I thought scared


exactly ... extremism in one of its many forms.


Easttowest72's photo
Mon 06/04/18 12:38 PM
John septic systems are set up based on the number of people that will be living in the home. For example, you don't expect 30 people to be living in a 2br home. You must not understand very much about homes. Like I said, people need to get a real world understanding of the situation.

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Mon 06/04/18 12:47 PM

John septic systems are set up based on the number of people that will be living in the home. For example, you don't expect 30 people to be living in a 2br home. You must not understand very much about homes. Like I said, people need to get a real world understanding of the situation.


them being hispanic doesnt mean they are going to live 30 deep, outliers should not be enough to uproot a whole demographic of people.



Easttowest72's photo
Mon 06/04/18 01:11 PM
Cedartown had a serious problem with it. Finally they had a raid and cleared out a bunch of them. That's exactly how they lived and they didn't mind telling people. It's not like the landlord could sue someone who wasn't even living here legally.

Common sense will tell you that someone working for slave wages, can't afford to feed a wife and 6 kids. That's where tax payers come in.

They broke the law and need to suffer the consequences. American child suffer the consequences of decisions made by their parents. So, what makes illegals special?

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Mon 06/04/18 01:16 PM

Cedartown had a serious problem with it. Finally they had a raid and cleared out a bunch of them. That's exactly how they lived and they didn't mind telling people. It's not like the landlord could sue someone who wasn't even living here legally.

Common sense will tell you that someone working for slave wages, can't afford to feed a wife and 6 kids. That's where tax payers come in.

They broke the law and need to suffer the consequences. American child suffer the consequences of decisions made by their parents. So, what makes illegals special?


I dont know about common sense, but NOTHING tells me that the average illegal immigrant is here with 'six' kids. American children suffer as does any child who has a parent taken from them, however the suffering is in being separated, not being made to pay the SAME PRICE.



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Mon 06/04/18 01:29 PM
They keep coming here because they aren't suffering any consequences. They get welfare and free education. Living better than a lot 9f Americans. Dad's getting paid under the table while mom is getting all the welfare our system offers.
Americans have to report wages and that won't let them get all the benefits. So they live modestly. While the illegals are on a shopping spree.
Trump was elected, so a lot of people must see the same things I'm seeing. I believe he will be re-elected. I'm going to vote for him.

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Mon 06/04/18 03:05 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/04/18 03:12 PM

They keep coming here because they aren't suffering any consequences. They get welfare and free education. Living better than a lot 9f Americans. Dad's getting paid under the table while mom is getting all the welfare our system offers.
Americans have to report wages and that won't let them get all the benefits. So they live modestly. While the illegals are on a shopping spree.
Trump was elected, so a lot of people must see the same things I'm seeing. I believe he will be re-elected. I'm going to vote for him.


welfare fraud is a crime that should be prosecuted WHEN committed, not proactively punished based on outlier stereotypes.


welfare fraud should be prosecuted whomever commits it. IN the US, ONLY ADULTS can apply and must be documented. If they are fraudulent about their status it is a crime. The adult who contributes such a crime is prosecuted, not the children they care for.

I keep hearing all these examples of people abusing the system, but no consideration for all those who are not, particularly the kids caught in the middle trying to thrive and contribute in the place they call home,

instead just throwing them all in the same barrel as if they are all just trash to toss out.

I have too much humanity to accept that as just or reasonable.


No doubt alot of people see all the mexicans (or most of them) as criminals and less than deserving humans who clog up toilets and get federal assistance and dont deserve to enjoy American privileges .. but hopefully alot more people will understand the importance of outvoting those voices in the next elections.


and even if I were to agree about how dreamers are being treated, it wouldn't overrule how unqualified and irresponsibly childish I believe Trump to be or how convinced I am that he has dementia that is being very well hidden and should also disqualify him from leading the country.


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Mon 06/04/18 03:21 PM

Cedartown had a serious problem with it. Finally they had a raid and cleared out a bunch of them. That's exactly how they lived and they didn't mind telling people. It's not like the landlord could sue someone who wasn't even living here legally.

Common sense will tell you that someone working for slave wages, can't afford to feed a wife and 6 kids. That's where tax payers come in.

They broke the law and need to suffer the consequences. American child suffer the consequences of decisions made by their parents. So, what makes illegals special?



Good. Post ! :thumbsup:

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Mon 06/04/18 04:05 PM

The other day I was watching an interview of Chris christy. He said the news media portrays Trump as a bad president but the reality is they got him elected. He said because nobody else got the coverage Trump got.

Do you believe that the coverage now will get Trump relected? The news portrays him as a bad guy but do you believe a major agree with him? On things like immigration, welfare reform, taxes, kneeling, and the trade deals. It's just America has become too pc to say what we are actually thinking in fear of retaliation from the bleeding hearts club...liberals


trump portrays HIMSELF as a bad president...

the news media just reports it what he does!

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Mon 06/04/18 05:07 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/04/18 05:09 PM


The other day I was watching an interview of Chris christy. He said the news media portrays Trump as a bad president but the reality is they got him elected. He said because nobody else got the coverage Trump got.

Do you believe that the coverage now will get Trump relected? The news portrays him as a bad guy but do you believe a major agree with him? On things like immigration, welfare reform, taxes, kneeling, and the trade deals. It's just America has become too pc to say what we are actually thinking in fear of retaliation from the bleeding hearts club...liberals


trump portrays HIMSELF as a bad president...

the news media just reports it what he does!



so simple and so true

Here is what (network/business) media does, it reports facts and opinions about the facts, sometimes independent sources that have no standard to be held against make up their own facts.

The danger in that is in the potential DECEPTION caused by the inability for most stories to truly give ALL THE FACTS/TRUTH (as in the truth,, THE WHOLE TRUTH, and nothing but the truth)

so when people with limited traveling, cultural or educational experience begin to base their whole reality primarly on what they are 'hearing' in the media or on the internet, they developed a SKEWED since of the context of things in their REALITY and get stuck only on the FRAMING of them by their favorite source.

For instance, if the media suddenly follows a TREND to report MORE AND MORE on missing kids, even if the REALITY is fewer and fewer are missing those DEPENDING on media/internet to frame their reality begin to believe that missing kids has become MORE OF A PROBLEM, instead of less. Their reality is FRAMED completely on what they hear and see on internet and TV. It is not because the news is lying about the events, but it is a skewed ability to put things inside of a proper and realistic context regarding those events. It happens in cycles with trends regarding terrorism, or immigration, or any number of hot button issues. Report it more, repeat it more often and it must therefore be becoming a major problem needing to be immediately address.

We have spend decades dumbing down the public to the point where it can be receptive to whatever a con person well experienced in media can frame for them. We have realities being defined by WHO is framing the picture instead of what the details of the picture actually are.

unfortunate.

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Mon 06/04/18 05:21 PM



So many fooled by the main stream media as if what they have to say is the gospel according to who the elitists owners who have their own agenda and that has already been proven..WikiLeaks has yet to publish any fake news and that's why they want Assange killed ..because he is exposing the lies..

They want the public to hate Trump because he too is exposing the lies of the Bushes,Clintons and Obamas,DOJ and the FBI. Who would have thought all this corruption would have existed and yet we are finding out all this because of TRUMP and ASSANGE and a few others..Had trump not been elected they would have continued on their way putting our military men and women in harms way with their lies and their own agenda..

They would have continued putting the lives of the American people in harms way with their ideas of open borders while using the tax payers dollars to support people who DONT belong here..and yet the main stream media still finds a way to get people to hate on a president that if you ask me we owe a bit of gratitude for..But people keep following that bouncing ball because that's exactly what the Deep State wants..after all it's worked for them for this long...spock

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Mon 06/04/18 05:26 PM




So many fooled by the main stream media as if what they have to say is the gospel according to who the elitists owners who have their own agenda and that has already been proven..WikiLeaks has yet to publish any fake news and that's why they want Assange killed ..because he is exposing the lies..

They want the public to hate Trump because he too is exposing the lies of the Bushes,Clintons and Obamas,DOJ and the FBI. Who would have thought all this corruption would have existed and yet we are finding out all this because of TRUMP and ASSANGE and a few others..Had trump not been elected they would have continued on their way putting our military men and women in harms way with their lies and their own agenda..

They would have continued putting the lives of the American people in harms way with their ideas of open borders while using the tax payers dollars to support people who DONT belong here..and yet the main stream media still finds a way to get people to hate on a president that if you ask me we owe a bit of gratitude for..But people keep following that bouncing ball because that's exactly what the Deep State wants..after all it's worked for them for this long...spock


and Trump supporters will only follow Trump's bouncing ball, refusing to acknowledge his LIVELIHOOD in sales/cons .... and continue to thank him for probably his biggest con ever ...





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Mon 06/04/18 05:29 PM



And what would that con be....

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Mon 06/04/18 05:34 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/04/18 05:35 PM




And what would that con be....


that he believes in or cares about or even KNOWS anything about anything but the Trump brand and how to build his own personal wealth

that he is the sole and only reporter of 'Truth'

or that he has ANY CLUE what he is doing as POTUS....



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Mon 06/04/18 06:07 PM


Serious Ms.H ..that's all the Obamas the Clintons and the Bushes have done so that would be what..business as usual..And what because the rest were politicians they did a lot better..hardly..we all know better than that..If we hadn't picked Trump we would have picked who Hillary with her own server who put countless lives in harms ways ..who lies as much if not more than anyone..who wasn't even physically fit to perform the duties of pres along with being a nasty drunk..and yet look how far they went to cover all that up

While we can see pretty much the perfect president is pretty much unobtainable..but even tho they ALL have their own agenda the people have to see where Trump is at least trying to make things better for the citizens...while the rest of them had been using the military to fill their pockets..and our men and women of the military deserve better than to be weaponized to fill the pockets of the greedy...while losing their lives to do so..such a shame indeed

There was a choice and it basically came down to two candidates and HILLARY definitely wasn't the best choice..what can we do..HOPE ..hope that Trump can see through all the BS he's being fed by the Obama left overs and keep us out of harms way..and at least it appears he's been trying to do that...

And as far as him not being a politician .well let's face it these so called politicians haven't done such a great job ..otherwise we wouldn't find ourselves in these messes we're in..Look what has been done to this country and it's reputation didn't happen over night..A terrorists nation we are being called because of the failures of the past presidents ..and it's going to take a while to put things back on track..But clearly when given the choices of the two..we had to go with what appears to be the lesser of the two evils..


We can only hope to nurture this president into being the best for the citizens ..but that too is going to take time..with Hillary I feel there was no hope ..because the Clinton agenda had already been set in stone and if people can't see what she was about all I can say is they must be blind..

so as you have said previously it will be a "wait and see" process that is for sure..but in the meantime..Let's enjoy the show..popcorn and soda at the ready...tc

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Mon 06/04/18 06:14 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/04/18 06:16 PM
haa,, all OBamas did, coming into hemorrhaghing hundreds of thousands of jobs and heading toward wall street, banks, and auto industry relapse, was line their own pockets ... yeah okay..

all OBama or Clinton did after leaving Law School with potential to make big bucks specializing for corporations or big business and instead organizing underserved cmmunities, and fighting for childrens healthcare and womens representation was line their own pockets ...yeah okay.

obama nor Clinton were born with any silver spoons and did plenty ON PURPOSE to expose themselves and live within and learn amongst 'common' people as well as to learn how the constitution frames the government to work ... unlike the currently totally uneducated and unprepared reality star who continues to have excuses and admiration from his supporters ....


he admits to being a BSer, saying that four years previous when he said Hilary would make a GREAT president that thats just 'what he does' (ie spout crap whether he believes it or not to get what he needs in the moment), telling his biographer that he blows things up bigger than they are just to garner support and 'belief'

but we will see how the 'devil you know' logic works out for us ...


you know,, cause The obamas or the clintons ... blah blah blah


okay.


the only thing we agree on obviously is that only time will tell, Im betting we have different hopes on what that story will be though ...

Easttowest72's photo
Mon 06/04/18 06:50 PM
Actually Obama's grandmother paid for his ivy league schools. We need a business man in office to fix the trade deficit. College just doesn't teach some things. Trump has years of experience and that's what we need. We have so many social safety nets in place to care for people but the situation stays stagnated. We need a change. We need to make America great again.

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Mon 06/04/18 08:56 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 06/04/18 09:01 PM

Actually Obama's grandmother paid for his ivy league schools. We need a business man in office to fix the trade deficit. College just doesn't teach some things. Trump has years of experience and that's what we need. We have so many social safety nets in place to care for people but the situation stays stagnated. We need a change. We need to make America great again.


ACtually The Obamas went to schools on scholarships and loans like most 'common' folks. We need someone in office who understands how the constitution has framed the governmental roles and boundaries, of which 'fixing the trade deficit' is but one part that both the legislative AND excecutive branch must work together on ...

We need someone who understands the different segments and cultures and what they face in the US and around the world, and shows some modicum of respect for others, Trump has no experience beyond the sub segmentwho of the uber rich who live entire lives for nothing but their own personal wealth and aggrandizement.

we need someone who can pick their battles and build allies, and who understands the GLOBAL relationships between governments, not businessmen.


Trump has years of experience in real estate sales cons, where bottom line is making profit for Trump and building up the TRUMP name bigger, america is not a for profit business for the Trumps, thats not what we need.


America is as "great" as its ever been, being no President has created a utopia for all people at all times, and yet there are always ways America can do better towards the goal of a more just and equal society, it can improve and always will have room for improvement whoever is POTUS.

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