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lu_rosemary Joined Wed 09/11/13 Posts: 9123	Thu 02/01/18 07:28 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libcs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I think the system is messed up everywhere but that’s just my opinion..

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 02/01/18 07:32 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libcs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I think the system is messed up everywhere but that’s just my opinion.. it is... Don't tell anyone, but actually they (Senate/congress) all work together to undermine the general public....all the bickering between parties is just for show, to keep our people divided...

Workin4it Joined Wed 10/02/13 Posts: 799	Thu 02/01/18 08:23 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I didn't say all recipients are liberal, I was talking about when democrats are in power the welfare costs go up immensely . The republicans like to keep control of so it's not easily abused. ... During the Obama administration had very slow job growth , slow recovery on the economy. Not much incentive to invest in the business, housing or any other market. Now with someone in office that understands how business works we can come back at a faster pace than even the experts thought would be possible. If you follow common sense rules things usually work out the way you want them to.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 08:56 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 09:14 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I didn't say all recipients are liberal, I was talking about when democrats are in power the welfare costs go up immensely . The republicans like to keep control of so it's not easily abused. ... During the Obama administration had very slow job growth , slow recovery on the economy. Not much incentive to invest in the business, housing or any other market. Now with someone in office that understands how business works we can come back at a faster pace than even the experts thought would be possible. If you follow common sense rules things usually work out the way you want them to. common sense was that since we were losing almost a million jobs a month when Obama came in ... there was not much incentive to invest, even AFTER the US began positive jog growth again and common sense also dictates people follow who they BELIEVE will represent them, so why wouldnt wealthy and established vote for a wealthy established man?

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 02/01/18 09:58 AM Edited by mightymoe on Thu 02/01/18 09:59 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations..

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 10:11 AM Edited by msharmony on Thu 02/01/18 10:12 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations.. True Hilary took 61 percent of Cali and 59 percent of new york who receive 26 and 32 percent, respectively, of their revenue from fed funds the top six recipients of fed fund to revenue ratio are (2014) MS 40.9 (57.9 for Trump) LA 40.1 (58 for Trump) TN 39.9 (60.7 for Trump) MT 39.1 (55.6 for Trump) KY 38.5 (62.5 for Trump) MO 38 (56.4 for Trump) which puts a damper on any clear connection regarding who 'welfare recipients' vote for or dont. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Thu 02/01/18 12:40 PM
All the pie charts and stats don't mean much now that she is pushing her book on awards shows.... Lol She is milking the loser roll... no class.

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14975	Thu 02/01/18 12:42 PM
So True

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Thu 02/01/18 12:53 PM
all due respect Green Every president has seen SOME industries flourish and others decline. That is also the flow of life. However, I Was speaking specifically to the Black Unemployment Rate(That is across ALL INDUSTRIES) and its decline. I provided the data to back it up. THE BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE is not any improvement under Trump. It is as it has ALREADY been before Trump. That only requires math, not a business major or impressive title to figure out. So you are stating that the Presidents tax cut for business is not a major stimulus for the country? For businesses big and small? As opposed to taxing companies more as the previous pres. did. Forcing many to produce off shore or close up shop... which they did. Are you serious, And the black community is sure as hell a part of the new jobs being created. you just can't bring yourself to say it. and yes, when you talk about business, you should really know what you are actually taking about. And that experience can not be found on some web page...or on some pie graft.. ya have to live it.. to know it.. You have to understand where it was to understand where it now is.;)

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 01:32 PM
All the pie charts and stats don't mean much now that she is pushing her book on awards shows.... Lol She is milking the loser roll... no class. Fire and Fury was not written by Hillary.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 01:34 PM Edited by msharmony on Thu 02/01/18 01:36 PM
all due respect Green Every president has seen SOME industries flourish and others decline. That is also the flow of life. However, I Was speaking specifically to the Black Unemployment Rate(That is across ALL INDUSTRIES) and its decline. I provided the data to back it up. THE BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE is not any improvement under Trump. It is as it has ALREADY been before Trump. That only requires math, not a business major or impressive title to figure out. So you are stating that the Presidents tax cut for business is not a major stimulus for the country? For businesses big and small? As opposed to taxing companies more as the previous pres. did. Forcing many to produce off shore or close up shop... which they did. Are you serious, And the black community is sure as hell a part of the new jobs being created. you just can't bring yourself to say it. and yes, when you talk about business, you should really know what you are actually taking about. And that experience can not be found on some web page...or on some pie graft.. ya have to live it.. to know it.. You have to understand where it was to understand where it now is.;) no, Im stating there is no EVIDENCE that Trump has improved the ALREADY declining BLACK EMPLOYMENT RATE. I am NOT talking about 'business', Im talking about the DECLINING BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE< which has not changed its pace since Trump took office. In other words, whatever he did since Jan 2017 did not increase the pace that black unemployment was ALREADY declining at since BEFORE jan 2017.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 02/01/18 01:37 PM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations.. True Hilary took 61 percent of Cali and 59 percent of new york who receive 26 and 32 percent, respectively, of their revenue from fed funds the top six recipients of fed fund to revenue ratio are (2014) MS 40.9 (57.9 for Trump) LA 40.1 (58 for Trump) TN 39.9 (60.7 for Trump) MT 39.1 (55.6 for Trump) KY 38.5 (62.5 for Trump) MO 38 (56.4 for Trump) which puts a damper on any clear connection regarding who 'welfare recipients' vote for or dont. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/ all those states are low populations, using less money's... Cali, New York, Illinois and Texas all have bigger populations so more money is funded.... you're using liberal wording to obscure the facts...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 01:39 PM Edited by msharmony on Thu 02/01/18 01:40 PM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations.. True Hilary took 61 percent of Cali and 59 percent of new york who receive 26 and 32 percent, respectively, of their revenue from fed funds the top six recipients of fed fund to revenue ratio are (2014) MS 40.9 (57.9 for Trump) LA 40.1 (58 for Trump) TN 39.9 (60.7 for Trump) MT 39.1 (55.6 for Trump) KY 38.5 (62.5 for Trump) MO 38 (56.4 for Trump) which puts a damper on any clear connection regarding who 'welfare recipients' vote for or dont. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/ all those states are low populations, using less money's... Cali, New York, Illinois and Texas all have bigger populations so more money is funded.... you're using liberal wording to obscure the facts... no. Im not. Because my figures arent nominal values (actual dollar amounts) but percentage of revenue, regardless of size, in other words, how they split their pie. You can have a pie that serves 100 or a pie that serves 10. If one person eats 50 servings of the first pie, they are less greedy than the one who eats 3 pieces of the second pie. Even though the raw number of servings and size of pie are bigger.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 02/01/18 01:45 PM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations.. True Hilary took 61 percent of Cali and 59 percent of new york who receive 26 and 32 percent, respectively, of their revenue from fed funds the top six recipients of fed fund to revenue ratio are (2014) MS 40.9 (57.9 for Trump) LA 40.1 (58 for Trump) TN 39.9 (60.7 for Trump) MT 39.1 (55.6 for Trump) KY 38.5 (62.5 for Trump) MO 38 (56.4 for Trump) which puts a damper on any clear connection regarding who 'welfare recipients' vote for or dont. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/ all those states are low populations, using less money's... Cali, New York, Illinois and Texas all have bigger populations so more money is funded.... you're using liberal wording to obscure the facts... no. Im not. Because my figures arent nominal values (actual dollar amounts) but percentage of revenue, regardless of size, in other words, how they split their pie. You can have a pie that serves 100 or a pie that serves 10. If one person eats 50 servings of the first pie, they are less greedy than the one who eats 3 pieces of the second pie. Even though the raw number of servings and size of pie are bigger. actually dollar amounts is all that matters... The rest is liberal trickery..

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Thu 02/01/18 09:56 PM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations.. True Hilary took 61 percent of Cali and 59 percent of new york who receive 26 and 32 percent, respectively, of their revenue from fed funds the top six recipients of fed fund to revenue ratio are (2014) MS 40.9 (57.9 for Trump) LA 40.1 (58 for Trump) TN 39.9 (60.7 for Trump) MT 39.1 (55.6 for Trump) KY 38.5 (62.5 for Trump) MO 38 (56.4 for Trump) which puts a damper on any clear connection regarding who 'welfare recipients' vote for or dont. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/ all those states are low populations, using less money's... Cali, New York, Illinois and Texas all have bigger populations so more money is funded.... you're using liberal wording to obscure the facts... no. Im not. Because my figures arent nominal values (actual dollar amounts) but percentage of revenue, regardless of size, in other words, how they split their pie. You can have a pie that serves 100 or a pie that serves 10. If one person eats 50 servings of the first pie, they are less greedy than the one who eats 3 pieces of the second pie. Even though the raw number of servings and size of pie are bigger. actually dollar amounts is all that matters... The rest is liberal trickery.. trickery also known as math ....

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Fri 02/02/18 12:25 AM
I always agree to disagree. I don't particularly love it when emotional appeal type words like 'job growth' are thrown around without data or clarification ... and people believe rhetoric about 'liberals' on welfare as if conservatives are not on welfare ... I don't think anyone ever said all welfare recipients are liberals...but even you could admit it more than likely is a reason people that are on welfare would vote Democratic, since the libs lie and say the republicans will take it away from them... I dont really know about that either. People often act on what they are 'expecting' to happen, and people are easily duped. plenty of states receiving the MOST Welfare are still voting republican. I don't think California is voting that way... And neither is New York... The two states with biggest populations.. True Hilary took 61 percent of Cali and 59 percent of new york who receive 26 and 32 percent, respectively, of their revenue from fed funds the top six recipients of fed fund to revenue ratio are (2014) MS 40.9 (57.9 for Trump) LA 40.1 (58 for Trump) TN 39.9 (60.7 for Trump) MT 39.1 (55.6 for Trump) KY 38.5 (62.5 for Trump) MO 38 (56.4 for Trump) which puts a damper on any clear connection regarding who 'welfare recipients' vote for or dont. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president https://taxfoundation.org/states-rely-most-federal-aid/ all those states are low populations, using less money's... Cali, New York, Illinois and Texas all have bigger populations so more money is funded.... you're using liberal wording to obscure the facts... no. Im not. Because my figures arent nominal values (actual dollar amounts) but percentage of revenue, regardless of size, in other words, how they split their pie. You can have a pie that serves 100 or a pie that serves 10. If one person eats 50 servings of the first pie, they are less greedy than the one who eats 3 pieces of the second pie. Even though the raw number of servings and size of pie are bigger. actually dollar amounts is all that matters... The rest is liberal trickery.. trickery also known as math .... funny thing about math is that they can always manipulate the data to get any answer they want...

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Fri 02/02/18 07:41 AM
Hilary carried ALL of the bankrupt states in the election. Including DC and Puerto Rico.

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14975	Fri 02/02/18 07:46 AM Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 02/02/18 07:58 AM
Iberals are mostly closed minded to real facts and what's Trump's doing ! One woman once said, she was a conservative democratic!!!

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Fri 02/02/18 04:51 PM
Hilary carried ALL of the bankrupt states in the election. Including DC and Puerto Rico. And lets not forget Chicago, she took that in a landslide Ahh, those silly street jokesters just love her there...just love her.