when people have discussions, they don't always agree. That seems to be the reality of conversation.

However, is it not better to simply state we disagree than to blow off the whole topic or point of view that it is just 'how it is', or 'just being honest"

Aren't these two sentiments kind of pointless? I mean, if people are discussing something, it is usually something that 'is', and when people give opinions it is an opinion that is their 'honest' opinion.

My daughter was streaming a show with 'judges' and I am teaching her to be considerate and kind to others, so she poised a question to me about why people felt a desire to be so hurtful to others. The question touched me.

I explained to her that most often, hurt people want to share their pain with others.

What a stagnant existence we would have if we just accepted any situation because it was, at that moment, "How it is" ...

What a sad statement on culture that 'honesty' is dependent upon how rude and hurtful the words are as if kinder words are not just as honest.

Really, isnt it just as 'honest' to tell someone they are fatally ill as it is that they are dying. the words have the same contextual meaning.

Isnt it just as honest to say someone needs to work on something as it is to tell them that they are 'awful' at it?

Is it just me, or are we becoming more dismissive and hurtful of the realities others perceive? Or maybe just more media is exposing more of what was already there ..

rant over.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. There are times when walking away is a bigger action

there are absolutely those times.

Regardless the situation there is a way to state a opinion tactfully by telling the truth and it not seeming as harsh..

It is all in the way one words their thoughts..

Many times those that say they are being honest seem to forget there other ways to make their statement without attacking someone or making them feel as if they are being talked down to...

Everyone has their own opinions on things. No need to try and change other minds by arguing your point. That is why we are individuals.

In a time where it seems we are expected to accept everything perhaps having an opinion now seems like something that has to be continuously defended so maybe the harsher the delivery the less it's questioned? Kind of like whoever shouts the loudest believes what they have to say is the most important...with emphasis.
Seems like a lot of lack of tolerance. Same with dating. The attitude is a little like 'Who cares if you ignore or hurt someone...one more click and there will be another one anyone anyway'. Disposible people?
We need to be patient with each other more.

on that topic, a few euphemisms come to mind:
1. Its not what you say, its how you say it
2. It takes all kinds
3. Its all about perspective and perception
4. The bully mentality - need to put down others
5. Treat others as you want to be treated
6. There's more of course..

Some people are so stubborn, close-minded and have tunnel vision that having a conversation is futile - who's an expert in persuasion?

let the conversation begin..lol

I do like the option to discuss and share different perspectives, If I just wanted to be agreed with, Id talk to the mirror all day ...lol

but there is a mature way to debate or discuss different perceptions, there is a way to use logic and I believe that logic actually does SOMETIMES persuade someone to at least consider adjusting their mindset, opinion, or perception.

There is nothing wrong with teaching kindness and consideration to your daughter.
Just remember that for everything there is a season.

There will be times, with certain people, that kindness and consideration is dangerous. It might be prudent to teach her 'when' to be kind and considerate and 'how' to express the correct kindness and consideration for the situation at hand. One size does not fit all.

Logic only works when you are dealing with a person that uses logical thinking. Most arguments are not logical. One participant's logic doesn't match the other's, thus an argument ensues.

Most often, there is an emotional element affecting the logic. Emotions can blur the logic for some.
Plus, some will argue no matter if they see the logic or not, just for the sake of arguing.
Their objective is not to arrive at a logical conclusion but to win, prove a point or be superior to the others in the debate.

We cannot control other people we can only control ourselves and what we do or say. People who agree to disagree are mature enough to see the situation as it is, how it affects them and how to move on therefore showing respect where it’s due. IMO

PERSUASION ??..TeeeHeee.

Simple ..Learn to TALK the WALK and WALK the TALK.

It is called life's skills

I think people mostly tend to be hurtful towards others when they aren't in touch with their own heart, not in touch with love and least of all love of Self.
Sometimes you have to close off your heart in order for your own well-being and sanity and to be able to do your job. I've seen this with surgeons in the operating theatre.
But in general I think it has much to do with the transformational time we're going through. The changing structure and foundations has many out of whack, so maybe most are in a tougher version of their true selves, kind if in survival mode?
Aren't we all in a way feeling drawn and quartered, wanting more freedom, personal growth and development, true love, yet the old systems won't let us.
Few live the lives they really would want to live. I think the accumulation of all this makes people ratty, disconnected from their heart and love.

I believe it is what the subject might be ... and sometimes ... feel...
with someone to agree to disagree ... and leave it at that ...
it really is out of your control on what others might say or do ...
very hard to change the I am right all the time person ... now thats when walking away comes in ... when some just want to argue ...
pick your battles they say ... not sure if I am good at doing that either ... but agree to disagree at least lets them know...
you heard them and listen to what they had to say...
about a situation ... so you where not blocking out that emotion ...

Its kinda strange but a person with low self-esteem usually feels a need to defend their opinion at any cost.
A person with high self-esteem is more likely to tolerate disagreement because they do not feel threatened by it.
Narcissitic people have a distorted high self-esteem and will argue until others agree with their opinions. Often times getting angry, lashing out and in online arenas, creating a second account just so it appears someone is agreeing with them.

There is no blow job forum on here.

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"really?"the measures some will stoop too.

only a few blow hard ones....

integ, you read my mind