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Topic: Is Sex Without Marriage a Sin?
BigD9832's photo
Sat 08/25/18 10:38 AM
The NT was written in Ancient Koine Greek. Not Modern Greek. There are several types of Greek.

The manuscripts used for the KJV were all written in Modern Greek, written about 1500 AD. Over 1000 years after the NT was written.

Alot can change in a language in 1000 years.

CLV 1Cor 7:2 Yet, because of prostitutions, let each man have a wife for himself and each woman have her own husband.

Strong's

G4202 porneia por-ni'-ah
from G4203;

harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively, idolatry.


There is no "fornication" in the Ancient text.


Mirage4279's photo
Sat 08/25/18 10:45 AM
I see said the blind man,

and I am pointing out that the word for pre-marital sex is probably not "fornication" when the NT was written however translates to the English word from Greek Hebrew ect..

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Sun 08/26/18 02:23 AM
I don't know if sex without marriage is a sin but a marriage without sex is no fun.So since many fun things are sinful then the answer is probably yes. :wink:

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Sun 08/26/18 02:35 AM
sex

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Mon 08/27/18 08:07 AM
From Mirage4279
I see said the blind man,

and I am pointing out that the word for pre-marital sex is probably not "fornication" when the NT was written however translates to the English word from Greek Hebrew etc...


The word that was substituted for fornication is "prostitution."

porne? That means prostitute

porneia? is Prostitution (1 Cornithians 7:2)

porneuo? is committing prostitution

pornos? that is a male prostitute, which might be known as a Gigiol today (1 Corinthians 6:9)

There is no Ancient Greek term for Fornication. If your Bible uses it, then the people who wrote that version are interpreting for you. The word most often mistranslated into Fornication is Adultery. Adultery is a Scriptural term. Fornication is not.

You mention the KJV. I have listed some of the many problems that the KJV has. Some in translation, some in interpretation.

See my thread...
Real Contradictions brought to you by the KJV


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Sun 09/02/18 08:18 PM
In Orthodox faith, sex without marriage is a sin.

smileyzest's photo
Mon 09/03/18 02:34 AM
The definition of sin is to transgress God's regulations. The Bible, God's regulations, states that fornification, sex outside of marriage and equivalent to adultery, is sin.

If you believe in the Bible, sex without marriage is sin by definition. If God's Word is not your life guide and you don't believe in God then why would one care about sin or even understand what it is?

I happen to believe in a loving God and His Word, and to trust that He knows what is best for the humans He created.

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart,and lean not on your own understanding;In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths." Proverbs 3:5-6 NKJV

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Mon 09/03/18 02:45 AM
Of course fornification is not in the ancient manuscripts because it is the English language. If you want to go around in circles fussing over language translation to self-justify indulgence in sin then go on and let God clarify it on judgement day.

Take note... Let the two be joined together as one - that's sex, in marriage. Marriage is losing value because of the disintegration in loyalty, self-control, commitment and respect. I's a fast food, me, myself and I, have to have it now world. Honourable and worth the life-long commitment is one who can say, "I love you so much I can and will wait"

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Mon 09/03/18 08:03 AM
Edited by BigD9832 on Mon 09/03/18 08:05 AM

From smileyzest
The definition of sin is to transgress God's regulations.


Here is another person who is having trouble understanding that the Bible was not written in English and that in order for a word to appear there, it must have an ancient counterpart. No ancient term, no English term.

The term "sin" is misrepresented by the ancient Hebrew word "chait." It's meaning has been misconstrued, as seen by some here.

CLV Judges 20:16 From all these people were seven hundred chosen men hampered in their right hand; every one of these could sling a stone at a hair and not miss.

The Bible, God's regulations, states that fornification, sex outside of marriage and equivalent to adultery, is sin.


Of course, this is not true, as the word "fornication" is not Scriptural. Or, to put it another way, the ancient Koine Greek term 'porneian' does not mean "fornication," but rather is closer to the definition of "prostitution."

For example...

CLV 1Cor 6:18 Flee from prostitution. The penalty of every sin, whatsoever man should be doing, is outside of the body, yet he who is committing prostitution is sinning against his own body.

The exalted honor of being members of Christ is the most powerful incentive to keep our bodies free from the gross sin which still afflicts humanity as it did in the days when this epistle was penned.
A. E. Knoch

If you believe in the Bible, sex without marriage is sin by definition. If God's Word is not your life guide and you don't believe in God then why would one care about sin or even understand what it is?


More fantasy. I have already provided the Scriptural definition of "sin." Some take delight in changing the meanings of the Biblical words and attach their own meanings and interpretation.

I happen to believe in a loving God and His Word, and to trust that He knows what is best for the humans He created.


Perhaps her own interpretations only.

Of course fornification is not in the ancient manuscripts because it is the English language. If you want to go around in circles fussing over language translation to self-justify indulgence in sin then go on and let God clarify it on judgement day.


By all means, let us not "fuss" over language translation. Just take my word for it and let's move on.

As I stated earlier, the ancient Koine Greek term 'porneian' does not mean "fornication," but rather is closer to the definition of "prostitution."

And to the Hebrews, "prostitution" has two meaning. The traditional one, and the worship of "other" gods.

Much of these moral implications are based on the Law given in the OT. Would it be hypocritical to point out certain of the Law and ignore the rest?

There are 613 Mitzvot or Commandments. Anyone here follow them all?


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Mon 09/03/18 08:05 AM

By the way, what is "fornification"?


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Sun 09/09/18 02:55 PM
1 Corinthians 7:2
“But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.”
In this verse, the apostle Paul describes any activity outside of marriage as “sexual immorality.” That means when we read of “sexual immorality,” it includes sex before marriage as one of many examples of sin.

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Sun 09/09/18 04:28 PM
It depends on the belief that you ascribe to. If you ascribe to Christian beliefs most of them will tell you that it is a sin to have sex outside of marriage. However, they base their beliefs on a book aka "Bible" that was originally written in different languages than English and has many different interpretations and versions.

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Sat 09/22/18 06:52 AM
yes its a sin in all major religion like christianity, Judaism and Islam.

All of these major religion say that sex without marriage is a sin.

snooplawn's photo
Sun 09/23/18 08:23 AM
All had sinned flesh wouldn't it bring up questions of self control in Jesus temple even the wondering eye casting away stones

Red's photo
Sun 09/23/18 02:20 PM
Edited by Red on Sun 09/23/18 02:22 PM
With the increase of single parents, men with multiple kids by several different women, women with several kids by multiple men, men who can't afford the child support and the women who have them locked up for it, STD's, two-thirds of marriages ending in divorce due to extra marital affairs, child sex abuse, the Catholic priests, rape, clothing getting shorter and fighter and more see through leaving nothing to the imagination....seems to me that the answer is simple.

I understand that "sex sells" but self-respect is priceless. Why should a man buy the cow when everyone else has already drunk the milk?

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Sun 09/23/18 02:59 PM
you have heard wrong ... there is just one book with that .. you can't name any other book the same .. :P

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Thu 09/27/18 09:27 AM

Quote from johnsonwitty01:
1 Corinthians 7:2
“But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.”


CLV 1Cor. 7:2 Yet, because of prostitutions, let each man have a wife for himself and each woman have her own husband.

This poster neglected to reveal the name of the English version he took this verse from, leaving us to guess. There is no explanation as to why he used this version. If I were to guess I would have to say it is from the English Standard Version.

Notice the word "should" is not used. I believe this takes the morality out of the equation.

In this verse, the apostle Paul describes any activity outside of marriage as “sexual immorality.” That means when we read of “sexual immorality,” it includes sex before marriage as one of many examples of sin.


Unfortunately the sin of "any activity outside of marriage" is not described in the Scriptures. Perhaps it was formed in the mind of this poster.

CLV 1Cor 6:12 All is allowed me, but not all is expedient. All is allowed me, but I will not be put under its authority by anything.

So many Christians seem to forget this verse. We are not limited by Him as to our actions. We are ALLOWED to express our own desires. As this is the case, it is no longer the business of the church as to what we do.


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Thu 09/27/18 11:22 AM

Quote from johnsonwitty01:
1 Corinthians 7:2
“But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.”


CLV 1Cor. 7:2 Yet, because of prostitutions, let each man have a wife for himself and each woman have her own husband.

This poster neglected to reveal the name of the English version he took this verse from, leaving us to guess. There is no explanation as to why he used this version. If I were to guess I would have to say it is from the English Standard Version.

Notice the word "should" is not used. I believe this takes much of the morality out of the equation.

In this verse, the apostle Paul describes any activity outside of marriage as “sexual immorality.” That means when we read of “sexual immorality,” it includes sex before marriage as one of many examples of sin.


Unfortunately the sin of "any activity outside of marriage" is not described in the Scriptures. Perhaps it was formed in the mind of this poster.

CLV 1Cor 6:12 All is allowed me, but not all is expedient. All is allowed me, but I will not be put under its authority by anything.

So many Christians seem to forget this verse. We are not limited by Him as to our actions. We are ALLOWED to express our own desires. As this is the case, it is no longer the business of the church as to what we do.


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Thu 10/04/18 03:29 PM
Not according to the book of Enoch ....and he's the great grandfather to Noah , who personally talked to god , Enoch that is, and he evidently asked God to while he fetches his concubine and by definition his sex slave . I'm sure God would have struck him down if he thinks it's wrong, but he didn't and even granted his descendants first dibs on anything major that's going to happen on earth.

If that's not an affirmation for a go ahead and enjoy sex, I don't know what is. And the Catholic Church takes that to heart. They totally raped boys with abandone. So all is good I suppose.

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Thu 10/04/18 03:52 PM
The OT "laws" were not sufficient, people couldn't stop sinning, sexually or otherwise.

That's why Jesus was sent - to take the burden for mankind's sins. BUT he has to be chosen. Monogamy in marriage, one man, one woman, is the teaching of Jesus/God/Holy Spirit.


If you're not affiliated with any any faith, sexual immorality is also a sin.

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