Well then here is a link for skill...game...
http://articles.venusianskills.com/articles/145/1/How-to-REALLY-PU/Page1.html

Yes, I have read that article before. Tyler is a well-known mPUA.

Tyler may be a mPUA, but he's, for lack a better word, a jerk. He stole Mystery's method and tore down his social status when they were out. He broke down every part of Style's game, copied it, and ripped him down too. On top of that, Tyler and Papa took over Project Hollywood and RSD even though both of them were the brain child of Mystery.

A pickup artist is a player and at 18 life is a game...

Once you get older and wiser you realize life is not a game.

What amazes me, is there are genuine decent guys listening to this shyt... in the past 2 weeks there has been so much PUA artist threads that this had really made the quality of this site steer many away.

Again players and PUA's...."games" and real people looking for honest and real relationships are above the elementary levels the self proclaimed PUA's and players are at....

But these wonderful posts have enlightened us to many things....

Buyer beware....

well the OP is snoozin no doubt but here is a good
place to socialize when the bars are ummm closed.
not into pua-ism much - like i avoid back-slapping
new friends. i like bonhomie but insincerity makes
me barf.

and the women who i am attracted to and who are attracted
to me spot them a mile away. like a superluminescent
backlit highway billboard.

Yup Tyler's got a pretty bad rep. Personally I'm not too big of a fan and I don't highly of him, either...he's even kinda annoying to listen to haha (I have one of his audio programs).
I guess I'm just too used to David D's low, comforting voice as opposed to Tyler's high-pitched, fast voice.
He's prolly not as bad as Savoy, though. He actually took over Mystery's company with financial prowess and it still bears the name The Mystery Method Co. and forced Mystery to branch off to a new company which he now calls The Venusian Arts.

i think the JSH server had a burp or something... for some reason it made me post the same thing multiple times

Most men are shy and self conscience. So you suggest sitting around waiting for the right person to come into your life? Why not learn the skill set to approach a group of people? Maybe the person you've been looking for to have that real and honest relationship is standing in an aisle at the grocery store. If you don't know how to approach her, you might never meet her. Or if you do meet somebody, why can't you know how to do certain things to excite her by having fun? Do you think you should just buy her gifts (ie. dinner, flowers, etc.) to get her attention? Too many people see the term pick-up artist and assume it's just some guy out for sex. It goes a lot deeper than picking up women. You just won't understand that until you look into it for yourself.

Both of them are horrible. They took what Mystery took 10 years developing by himself and used him as a stepping stone to steal it and make money off of his method. Mystery also teamed up with Mike Long and started Area 51 Lifestyle.

Yokoke, allow me to flatter myself and suppose that I am one of the genuine, decent guys whom you reference. You say that this stuff is excrement; could you elaborate? I realize fully that life is not a game, but as I've noted, I could use some pointers because I'm not meeting any people by sitting alone and keeping my head down.

It is my understanding that part of the PUA playbook includes techniques for approaching a woman and making conversation. Even assuming that the PUA's motivation is dishonest or ungentlemanly (and I don't believe that it always is), I don't understand why I couldn't benefit from learning how pickup artists engage women in conversation and keep their interest.

Conventional wisdom states that you just need to be yourself and be comfortable in your own skin. My experience, however, suggests otherwise. I've been ignored or experienced ridicule far too often, even among so-called adults, to believe that.

There is also the unfortunate possibility that even if maturity and wisdom reveal that life is not a game, that other people my age may still be treating it that way. I've been told that it would be better to ask a woman if she'd like to go back to my apartment and fornicate than to ask her a more genuine question like whether she likes Russian literature, whether she'd like to join me for cake and coffee, or whether she enjoys board games.

We like you s1ow!!!!!! You are a gentlman....mature and wise...
and not into games.....

When I saw the name "Mike Long," I did some quick Googling. Holy crap, if it's not the same Mike Long who plays (played?) Magic: The Gathering and got caught cheating during a high-profile event. What a crazy, small world.

lol in David D's Mastery program, he invited both Mystery and Tyler as guest speakers and they ended up having an AMOGing duel on stage
I've only heard about this in reviews - I haven't actually seen it, but I would like to.

If you say one interesting thing, people will say "That was interesting". If you say 10 interesting things in a row, people will say "You're interesting". PUA techniques teach you different things that you can use to start a conversation and have the woman maintain interest in you. This is part of the attraction phase. Once you build attraction you can move onto comfort. This is when you can find out the real her and you can talk about things such as literature and board games. The problem is most guys try to start in the Comfort phase before building attraction.

No Eph go ahead and listen to these 18 year olds.... rather than trusting yourself and being yourself.... a PickUpArtist knows how to blow SMOKE and up which ORFICE...said it before and will say it again and if females are gullible to become notches and a STD stat and then come on the boards and piss and moan because they treated her this way and that way....

Choices....

trust your heart and your gut instinct....

the player and pua scams are for kids....

Adults are looking for mature and real relationships...

You are going to get what you put out.... laws of the universe work that way....

lol in David D's Mastery program, he invited both Mystery and Tyler as guest speakers and they ended up having an AMOGing duel on stage
I've only heard about this in reviews - I haven't actually seen it, but I would like to.

lol in David D's Mastery program, he invited both Mystery and Tyler as guest speakers and they ended up having an AMOGing duel on stage
I've only heard about this in reviews - I haven't actually seen it, but I would like to.