I thought I would mention this again ... being I was telling a young child not to leave his sister in the car ...with the windows up ...as he was running in a store ...

has been really hot here ... just a reminder to open the windows ...
in your vehicles while leaving anyone or animals in there ...
and open windows more then just a crack...

Open windows do not work. A few days ago, where I live, 3 dogs died in a car, where the windows where left open.

cat that's really sad.

cat's right, it doesn't work. The metal surrounding the car attracts the sun's heat, turning the car into an oven, even with the windows opened.

Pets and children left in vehicles is nothing compared to the abandonment of children by their biological fathers when leaving a partner or spouse. Many many choose to start another family and completely divorce the children they left with former parent and no one says a thing as though its ok to divorce or leave a spouse and their kids with no consideration and have others with whom they then focus all attention and denying their original ones this is horrific and goes unchallenged or acknowledged

Yeah, I got left in the car when I was little and I died.
Oh, wait...I didn't die.
Go figure?

Granted a child in a car with the windows up in the sun is not a good thing but unless it is a prolonged exposure it shouldn't be a problem.

If I run into the store for a gallon of milk on the way home and you break my window - I'll break your face.

A car parked in 60 degrees can peek really fast, even windows open.

Yes, I'm thinking a lot of people don't understand the danger, or think it has to be really hot outside and for a long length of time.

From what I've just read, it doesn't take long at all, and it can be as little as 60 to 70 degrees outside for it to be fatal inside a car, even with the windows opened.

The articles below discuss this in more depth.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2005/07/parked-cars-get-dangerously-hot-even-on-cool-days-stanford-study-finds.html

http://heatkills.org/how-hot/

I have been hearing the advisories on TV about this. There is a protocol to follow, but it can include calling 911 for assistance from the RCMP if you deem the situation to be that bad.

its a bit different when someone DIES.....

There seems to be no end to the harm caused to all of us by selfish people in a hurry who think "it's okay to ignore the law and physics and everything else, if I'm Just Going To Be A Minute."

People like that have blocked access to fire hydrants, prevented fire exits from being available, poisoned themselves and others, and worse.

One of my many useless fantasies, is that someday, everyone will be implanted with a chip that gives them a shock every time they say or think

"It's okay to do something stupid or wrong, as long as I just do it for a MINUTE!"

Personally, I have to question the topic. I don't see it quite as a situation with concrete answers. I've read the scientific arguments elsewhere before, but my own childhood makes some of the arguments suspect. Not to mention some of my adult experiences.

First, an animal is different from a child. Two different biologies which deal with heat differently.

Second, age of the child affects their physiology and ability to cope with extreme temperatures.

When I was a child, I would be left in the car, even during summer. But there was an implicit trust involved that may not exist with every parent and child. My mom would leave the keys with me. If I wanted to listen to the radio, I could. If I wanted to roll the windows down all the way, I could. If I got so uncomfortably hot that I would rather go inside the store, I could get out, lock the car, and go inside to join my mother. Point is, my mother knew I could be trusted to make such a decision before it became a health problem.

But there is more to it than that. I grew up in a family that spent a lot of time involved with Scouts. My mom was a Girl Scout leader for 30 years. My father was Pack Leader for Cub Scouts. I was trained in First Aid by the time I was 8 years old. I began swimming lessons at 4 years old. I could orienteer in unknown forests and woods by 9 years old. To be brief, I was raised to have outdoor survival skills, even if nobody in my family hunted. (None of us EVER owned guns.)

As an adult, I have worked hours in environment where the temperatures were 120 - 140 degrees Fahrenheit: attics, restaurant kitchens, machine shops, etc. I have never suffered heat stroke, but I have dealt with heat exhaustion and dehydration. That's mainly because I knew my limits, and I could recognize bodily warning signs. Plus I've noticed that compared to many of my co-workers, I have a higher tolerance for hot temperatures so long as it is dry heat.

So maybe I'm an exception. My experiences just haven't allowed me to gauge to what degree I differ from the average person in this situation. Until I can gauge it, I'm not sure what views I should really have on this topic.

Dude..long time no see!! Wb :-)

Why take any chances and leave any breathing thing
in a too-hot car w/o air circulation?

Thanks. Good to see you still here. Looks like many of my old friends have left.

As for the rest, I can understand that. I'm simply the type of person who needs to gain greater understanding of things. I decided to toss my thoughts out there to see what others can throw out there that might increase my understanding. Not just science, but views, opinions, etc.

Personally, I would never leave animal in a hot car. When it comes to a child, I'm more prone to take the child with me for other safety reasons. The communities I grew up in are not the same today as they were back then. So hot car or not, I'm not about to leave my child alone (not that I have one, but still...) I find that sad enough already because I would prefer to have a child not feel smothered by parental paranoia. But that's just me, of course.

[color-purple] Hummm .... well I live in Texas where when we say it's hot it is hitting over a 100 in less then 15 min the temp inside a car with the windows rolled up hits 120... At that stage your organs starts telling your body they are shutting down.. you quit sweating you get tired and sleepy.... the higher it goes your organs start to simmer and totally shut down..

So yea you leave a child or a animal in a car here, most likely if someone sees them before they die while your gone your windows are going to be broke out and guess what it will be legal for them to do so.. and the one that left them will go to jail..

We have already had several deaths due to this... it is sad people are too hung up on their phones to realize or remember they have a life within their hands..

This is happening more and more it is unreal should never happen~~