Topic: Crooks and Politics...
mysticalview21's photo
Wed 05/24/17 06:04 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 05/24/17 06:04 AM
I was told long ago ...
that politicians where all crooks ...
and do not believe the regular news media ...
they may have gone in as wanting to help America ...
but became someone we could not trust later...



But the Opinions... I am looking for is ...
who do you believe in politics ...
that we can trust and why ...

37ko's photo
Wed 05/24/17 08:39 AM
believe... trust...politician??!!!
oh no no no I don't think so

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/24/17 08:52 AM
I do not generally believe 'all' statements

I do not believe all politicians are crooks anymore than I believe all republicans are BIGOTS

thing is, any career that affords so much power will appeal to corrupt individuals

similarly to how the republican platform may appeal to bigots

but I generally, give the benefit of the doubt until I am PROVEN(emphasis on proof, not gossip and speculation) wrong

so I trust them until they show me that I should not...

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Wed 05/24/17 12:17 PM
Crooks and politics go hand in hand....it's like how a man and a woman are made for each other lol... more like politicians being all crooks on a more sophisticated professional level but if you can see through all the bull & be a level above you will see everything clear....

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Wed 05/24/17 02:24 PM

I was told long ago ...
that politicians where all crooks ...
and do not believe the regular news media ...
they may have gone in as wanting to help America ...
but became someone we could not trust later...



But the Opinions... I am looking for is ...
who do you believe in politics ...
that we can trust and why ...


MOST of the declarations that "all politicians are crooked" and "all mainstream media is untrustworthy" is just plain laziness. Someone wants to think of themselves as "clever," or "smarter than most" or some other variation of "inherently superior," so they (rather ironically) make an obviously FALSE statement, such as that ALL members of this or that group are defective in some way.

All it is is intellectual sloth. Figuring out what authorities to listen to, and how much of what they say to listen to, is a task that every single human on earth has the duty to learn to do, from the time they are very small. If they don't they will remain forever as small children, ever dependent on fads created by other people, for the guidance of their lives.

As for a question of how to deal with things like news reports, this is actually a part of what your public (and other) education is importantly about. First we learn to read, and then we try to learn to DISCERN what is actually said in what we read, and to become aware of the various things to be CAREFUL ABOUT when we read (or listen) to other people.

The basic process to follow, is to listen/watch/read what it said about an issue or event, then recognize that you are only getting the viewpoint of a SINGLE PERSON. The person who filed the original story, whatever that is. Or in the case of a politician, you are only getting a version of whatever they are talking about, that fits what they want you to decide.

So you need to do some homework of your own. Read other points of view, try to learn something in general about the entire subject being discussed, and then finally apply the lessons you've already learned in your own life, about what actually happens, versus what you wanted to have happen in your life.




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Wed 05/24/17 02:40 PM


Politicians crooks? Oh come now. laugh

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Wed 05/24/17 04:54 PM
A few years ago in my home state of N.J. the FBI ran a sting operations trying to catch politicians in a " pay to play" sting

They arrested over 30..across party lines.. all levels.

They arrested the mayor of my town. They have him on video and vocal stating " I can smell a cop a mile away", as he took a envelope full of cash... from a undercover FBI agent posing as a corrupt land developer.

Corrupt?.. yep.... some need work done to their nasal passage?... yep


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Wed 05/24/17 04:58 PM
Edited by greeneyes148 on Wed 05/24/17 05:07 PM
Oh yeah.. and they arrested 2 Rabbi's in the same sting for selling human organs to the highest bidder. They would give poor people in Latin America $2,000.00 for the organ.. then have it harvested in some sh*thole hospital in the slums of a Latin country, then sell it to the highest bidder in Brooklyn.. in the Hasidic Community for about $50,000

But that's a different tread ;)

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Wed 05/24/17 05:17 PM
were the livers Kosher?

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Wed 05/24/17 05:44 PM
Yes, word on the street is they took them over to the Hebrew National hot dog processing plant and did whatever they do to make them Kosher...

which I think is a scam in itself... you telling me all those hot dogs are blessed????


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Wed 05/24/17 05:58 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Wed 05/24/17 06:03 PM
I think it started as Rabbi blessing the hotdogs in small batches

then it switched to having a Rabbis full time on site of the hot dog factory.

Now it's they know of a Rabbi somewhere in town lol


Edit*

We had a replacing mayor, the prior mayor was booted for corruption, this interim mayor was focusing on anti corruption campaign, till the cops busted him, found guilty recently.

corruption everywhere

no photo
Wed 05/24/17 08:52 PM
who do you believe in politics ... that we can trust and why ...

Why would I need to believe and/or trust anyone in politics rather than simply compare known/unknown alternatives on specific issues using critical reading/thinking skills?

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/25/17 05:15 PM



read your forefathers declaration of independence

when those in govt become untrustworthy do whatever is needed to remove
them from office

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when in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

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i didnt say it they did

mysticalview21's photo
Fri 05/26/17 07:52 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Fri 05/26/17 07:57 AM
laugh when those in govt become untrustworthy do whatever is needed to remove them from office ...



There are news outlets... I like more then others ...
and believe what they are saying ...
and have done the research...

some have turned to hate... in theses times ...
and just feel differently ...
about what is going on now ...

1- really not liking the wars ...
and how much $ they are giving to other country's ...
for this ... when America is loosing so much and
how much politicians think their doing the right thing ...
by cutting so much ...while they make the big bucks and gains ...
so many will be hurt by this ... & do they care ...
does not seem so ...




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Thu 06/08/17 06:30 AM
Good ol' nothin' burgers. Kosher?

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/09/17 08:23 AM
these days,with Politicians holding their Office "forever and a day",politics have become a veritable Crook-Magnet!bigsmile