Topic: No real proof in ‘Russian hacking’ report
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Sun 01/01/17 09:41 AM
No real proof in ‘Russian hacking’ report, as it lacks crucial details – ex-NSA tech director.

The FBI report supposedly bursting with evidence that Russian hackers breached US servers contains no real proof, computer experts say – among them former NSA technical director and whistleblower William Edward Binney.

The report was meant to provide the American public with much-delayed proof that Russia had hacked the DNC to influence the US election. While it failed to do this, it did serve as the Obama administration’s justification for expelling 35 Russian diplomats and their families from the United States.
He recalled Julian Assange's recent admission that the leaks had not come from Russia, as well as Craig Murray, the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, who said that he had personally met the insider who had leaked the incriminating data to the whistleblowing website.
The ex-NSA director did not find the report produced this week by the FBI and DHS convincing.

“It is simply an outline of how a phishing attack occurs, that's all it was to me. It didn't prove anything to me."

"It didn’t give the IP addresses, the Mac numbers or any other details about them,” he explained, adding “it also didn’t show how they hacked in, and how they ex-filtrated the data, how much data they took,” or how it was consequently passed on to the Russian government.

“They didn’t show any of that trace routing. And that’s what they should have shown to prove it,” he stressed.

Another fake news story perpetrated by the liberal media, as the old lady said, "Wheres the beef?".

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Sun 01/01/17 10:08 AM
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/did-russia-tamper-with-the-2016-election-bitter-debate-likely-to-rage-on/

White House fails to make case that Russian hackers tampered with election
US issued JAR billed itself as an indictment that would prove Russian involvement.


<The 13-page report, which was jointly published Thursday by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, billed itself as an indictment of sorts that would finally lay out the intelligence community's case that Russian government operatives carried out hacks on the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Clinton Campaign Chief John Podesta and leaked much of the resulting material. While security companies in the private sector have said for months the hacking campaign was the work of people working for the Russian government, anonymous people tied to the leaks have claimed they are lone wolves. Many independent security experts said there was little way to know the true origins of the attacks.

Sadly, the JAR, as the Joint Analysis Report is called, does little to end the debate. Instead of providing smoking guns that the Russian government was behind specific hacks, it largely restates previous private-sector claims without providing any support for their validity. Even worse, it provides an effective bait and switch by promising newly declassified intelligence into Russian hackers' "tradecraft and techniques" and instead delivering generic methods carried out by just about all state-sponsored hacking groups.<

<"Both foolish and baseless"

Security consultant Jeffrey Carr also cast doubt on claims that attacks that hit the Democratic National Committee could only have originated from Russian-sponsored hackers because they relied on the same malware that also breached Germany's Bundestag and French TV network TV5Monde. Proponents of this theory, including the CrowdStrike researchers who analyzed the Democratic National Committee's hacked network, argue that the pattern strongly implicates Russia because no other actor would have the combined motivation and resources to hack the same targets. But as Carr pointed out, the full source code for the X-Agent implant that has long been associated with APT28 was independently obtained by researchers from antivirus provider Eset.

"If ESET could do it, so can others," Carr wrote. "It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as CrowdStrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will."

The doubts raised by Lee, Graham, and Carr underscore the difficulty members of the US intelligence community face when taking findings out of the highly secretive channels they normally populate and putting them into the public domain. Indeed, the Joint Analysis Report makes no mention of the Democratic party or even the Democratic National Committee. The lack of specifics and vagueness about exactly how the DHS and FBI have determined Russian involvement in the hacks leaves the report sounding more like innuendo than a carefully crafted indictment.<

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Sun 01/01/17 10:24 AM
frustrated frustrated frustrated


Oh some more of that SLAM DUNK INTELLIGENCE ...

that gave US .. the WMDs and Mushroom Clouds ..

The background investigation into Dennis Hastert having sex with kids in Congress.

As well as the Boston killers ... San Bernardino killers ... Orlando ... Fort Hood ...

and the hits keep on coming to the Blue State Libtard Itches ...

getting killed.

Not to worry the Libtartds are on their knees licking the taco sauce off the swartznegger viva cinco de mayo putah pendajo gringo cavassa

They do NOT HAVE A CLUE !!!

sumbuddie wear blind sea

spock spock spock

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Mon 01/02/17 08:40 AM
Do you really think President Obama would expel 35 Russian intelligence operatives if there was any doubt?

Both the CIA and the FBI issued detailed reports positively stating that the Russians were behind the email hack at numerous organizations - including getting into a power grid.

You alt rightists will grab anything supporting your 'hopes' and it's hilariously sad.

There has been numerous reports and studies done to support the fact that voting fraud doesn't exist anywhere near the level you right wing conspiracy freaks have been told by your largest fake news organization, Fox ****ing news.

Learn to research properly and try to comprehend the reports issued by the intelligence community.

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Mon 01/02/17 09:10 AM
we expel.. they expel. we swap spies.. they swap spies.. been going on forever.

I'm sure we have a nice supply of folks over they doing some " questionable" stuff.

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Mon 01/02/17 10:06 AM
I read the report that was released to the public.

Hacking by Russian agents did occur.

What the report doesn't provide is evidence that the Russian agents gave hacked information to Wikileaks.

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Mon 01/02/17 10:47 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 01/02/17 11:14 AM

Do you really think President Obama would expel 35 Russian intelligence operatives if there was any doubt?

Both the CIA and the FBI issued detailed reports positively stating that the Russians were behind the email hack at numerous organizations - including getting into a power grid.

You alt rightists will grab anything supporting your 'hopes' and it's hilariously sad.

There has been numerous reports and studies done to support the fact that voting fraud doesn't exist anywhere near the level you right wing conspiracy freaks have been told by your largest fake news organization, Fox ****ing news.

Learn to research properly and try to comprehend the reports issued by the intelligence community.

yep,he would,anything to keep up the Narrative!
He knows very well what caused the Epic Catastrophic Democrat melt-down last Election,and it ain't the Russians who done it,but the trashy Candidate they put forward!
I guess losing way over thousand seats by the Democrats nationwide was also caused by the Russians hacking?

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Mon 01/02/17 11:29 AM
Oh plz, suck it up already. the US spies on everyone, hacking? lmao

Which country would have most to lose by a Clinton win?

No not Russia, not China either... My money is on Israel, Satanyahoo is dirty enough to hack, release to wiki and blame the Russians

Take that to the bank! Fair weather allies, can't trust em at all whoa

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Mon 01/02/17 11:49 AM
Government,as usual is talking through it's Hat!
Another attempt by the Obumanistas in Government to deflect blame from the trashy Candidate they tried to foist onto the Nation!laugh

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Mon 01/02/17 01:04 PM

Government,as usual is talking through it's Hat!
Another attempt by the Obumanistas in Government to deflect blame from the trashy Candidate they tried to foist onto the Nation!laugh


Part of Obama's scorched earth policy. Whinin, cryin and lyin.bigsmile

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Tue 01/03/17 07:50 PM
Assange says it wasn't the Russians, NOT THE RUSSIANS!


http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/assange-denies-russian-government-was-behind-hacks/ar-BBxRsRf?li=AAacUQk&ocid=spartanntp

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Wed 01/04/17 12:40 PM
odni stated the CIA claims are baseless... no evidence....the Virginia power grid story was retracted... it never happened it was an employees laptop...the DNC "hack" was a leak from a democratic party insider....yet the mainstream media continues to spew anti-russia propaganda based on NOTHING while failing to report anything on the fact that Barack Hussein Obama has placed american special forces at russia's borders

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Wed 01/04/17 12:53 PM
Edited by 37ko on Wed 01/04/17 01:01 PM
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/washpost-is-richly-rewarded-for-false-news-about-russia-threat-while-public-is-deceived/

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/intelligence-overseers-disagree-cia-refuse-support-agencys-conclusion-russia-rigged-u-s-election/

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Wed 01/04/17 01:40 PM

odni stated the CIA claims are baseless... no evidence....the Virginia power grid story was retracted... it never happened it was an employees laptop...the DNC "hack" was a leak from a democratic party insider....yet the mainstream media continues to spew anti-russia propaganda based on NOTHING while failing to report anything on the fact that Barack Hussein Obama has placed american special forces at russia's borders



Yea, the CIA report was exposed as completely baseless soon as it was released. The power grid fake news story was a joke. Probably someone
surfing around porn sites at work.laugh

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Wed 01/04/17 07:15 PM

Do you really think President Obama would expel 35 Russian intelligence operatives if there was any doubt?

Both the CIA and the FBI issued detailed reports positively stating that the Russians were behind the email hack at numerous organizations - including getting into a power grid.

You alt rightists will grab anything supporting your 'hopes' and it's hilariously sad.

There has been numerous reports and studies done to support the fact that voting fraud doesn't exist anywhere near the level you right wing conspiracy freaks have been told by your largest fake news organization, Fox ****ing news.

Learn to research properly and try to comprehend the reports issued by the intelligence community.


Maybe Obama expelled the Russians because Putin has made him look like the complete and incompetent fool he really is.

Ex KGB vs a community organizer..

Haha..

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Thu 01/05/17 01:42 PM
No real proof in ‘Russian hacking’ report

Don't worry, it's coming, they've just got to wait for the new Windows Office update.
Right now the only template they have for Word is "Hawaiian birth certificate."
The other templates were stored on IRS hard drives and who knows where they went.