i like to play it by day by day

oh and he must give us massages EVERYDAY!!!!

"Makes me think you can't just accept things the way they are"
Why should I have to accept something that doesn't make sense?

"If I were to tell you the sky is blue, you'd probably tell me no, it's actually white because it's cloudy today."
If you tell me that the sky is blue, I don't have a lot of evidence or personal experiences to refute such a claim. Bad analogy.

"nobody wants to date someone who is so angry at the world and themselves."
That's very true, isn't it? But I'm not showing the angry side that's coming across in here, and I'm not angry at myself.

"You have an answer for everything, how do you think that makes a young lady feel? Frustrated, and negative towards you."
The last girl I e-mailed complimented me on how learned and wise I was coming across as. Apparently she LOVED talking to me, according to what she said. Can you explain to me why she suddenly stopped talking to me?

"your posts reveal such a jaded, cynical person and a guy who ALWAYS has to "one up" everyone else."
So what, I'm not allowed to respond to anyone anymore? This isn't about one-upping people, it's about trying to gain a better insight on what's going on. I can't help it if I find clear and distinct flaws in the theory and practice of wooing women.

Have you noticed I haven't said anything in rebuttal to what thatplayer89 has been saying? I haven't tried being a "player" and I've seen supposed players succeed where other guys have failed, so I essentially having nothing to respond to it except for silent, bemused consideration.

"I think maybe you should go talk to a counselor about your issues."
Why should I talk to a counselor whose dating history I don't know ANYTHING about, when I could just as easily talk to a BUNCH of people who have a much higher probability of having the same situation as I?

"honestly, i don't think we really know sometimes"
Thank you, txmama74. Thank you. The first step has been taken.

Bob.....do you have a lighter I can borrow???

Like on a big ol pile of Charmin. That is all I want. Is that asking too much?

well, fall already

They are looking for someones head to rub

kojack- you know it

hey yall how we doing today?

wow um this is a stupid question.. they're lookin for me!

i'm lookin for his body on a taller frame , lol

oh that hurts

"I love nice guys but very hard to trust them"
Why? Nice guys don't get chicks. Who do you think they're going to cheat on you with?

"So not that nice guys aren't good enough, just the pain they can cause is not worth it."
You're a stupid b*tch who's going to die alone with a pair of meat curtains because you decided to pursue the bad boys instead of taking a chance on someone who will treat you right. Skank.

There. I just played the part of the bad boy. Do you want to have sex with me now?


Well nice guy or not a man is a man and they all will cheat if they have the oppurtunity and think they have no chance of being caught. And I am speaking from experience i know your a man but um I think I have dated more than you have or maybe not... anyway dying alone is the last thing I am concerned about, I was born alone so it won't make any difference to me if i die and I have no husband to attend my funeral. I actually prefer to have open relationships that way no one gets hurt and no one has any fantacies left unsatisfied. You need to lighten up or better get laid... oops you are having some problems in that department aren't you

"Bob.....do you have a lighter I can borrow???"
Not one that works, I'm afraid. Kind of hard to get it out to British Columbia anyway. *l*

"Well nice guy or not a man is a man and they all will cheat if they have the oppurtunity and think they have no chance of being caught."
There, see? TongueKISS just made a generalization based on a personal experience that went awry. Are we going to start giving her flack for her opinions too, or are we just going to agree with what she's saying since agreeing with the idea of all men are scum is a popular activity?

"I actually prefer to have open relationships that way no one gets hurt and no one has any fantacies left unsatisfied. You need to lighten up or better get laid... oops you are having some problems in that department aren't you"
So it's wrong for men to cheat on women, but you're cool with sleeping around with as many men as it takes so that no one is left unsatisfied.... Is that right?

how bout we kill this thread and let Bob have the last word?

You don't have to accept it. It just makes life more enjoyable if you 1. try to understand it or 2. failing to understand (like almost everyone), accept it and cope without being angry and cynical.



So instead of checking to see if the sky is actually blue, you prefer to go out of your way to refute the existence of a personal experience to look and see if it's blue or not and criticize the analogy? You are missing points here intentionally. You are doing all this to yourself everything aside - which is the point people keep pointing out and which you keep proving with every response.



Again, you are missing the point intentionally. People are seeing you as angry. You are perceived as being angry. It's your choice whether you want to ignore that or learn something from the reality that that's what people are telling you.



Apparently she both LOVED talking to you and thought you were so learned and wise that she stopped talking to you? You are working hard to have to keep missing the points people are giving you feed-back with. No one can explain it except her, all we know is that she stopped talking to you.



Once again... someone is giving you their time and help to understand what's going on - and you are more interested in missing the point with a response in direct contradiction. It's already been established you view everything with cynicism. You don't need to keep pointing it out.



Granted it's amusing. But thatplayer89 gains confidence from having paid someone to tell him how to have confidence and believe that he *can*. And that works. Because he THINKS it works. He's not concentrated on how he *can't* manipulate women - he's concentrated on how he *can* manipulate women. And no matter how you look at it, believing you *can* will at least give you a chance while believing it's hopeless gives you exactly zero chance unless someone takes pity on you.



You are missing the point again. It's not about dating. It's about you. Why would you go to talk to people with the same problems, in the same situation, with the same hopeless belief if you truly want to change things?




You are missing the point one last time here. The first step you pointed out is where all this started, but you've turned it into your last step.

still looking for my lighter....

I suppose that toaster isn't cordless either.