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Topic: INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
adj4u's photo
Thu 11/15/07 08:46 PM
there are no hispanics listed period

go back and look at the chart


adj4u's photo
Thu 11/15/07 08:52 PM
Offense charged Total arrests Percent distribution1
Total White Black American Indian or Alaskan Native Asian or Pacific Islander Total White Black American Indian or Alaskan Native Asian or Pacific Islander


that is the list

100.0 white 69.7 black 28.0 ai/an 1.3 a/pi 1.1

that is the percentages

from the overview you posted

Dragoness's photo
Thu 11/15/07 08:58 PM
Hey adj, your right I did not notice there were no hispanics on the list, well, if you split the whites up in half and use that statistic maybe???????? I don't know, I guess the feds either consider them white or some other race then. Funny...but it still proves this one posted false and grossly off at any human level.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 11/15/07 08:59 PM
gnite

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:03 PM
it is so much nicer when you post in a civil manner

flowerforyou


drinker drinker drinker drinker

Fanta46's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:05 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 11/15/07 09:17 PM
Your site, same link!!

Heading--- For Races! Statistics for non metropolitan counties!!

White, Black American, Indian or Alaskan Native, Asian or Pacific Islander!!

Another stat; http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

At year end 2005 there were 3,145 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,244 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 471 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.


Pertinent???

Having logical precise relevance to the matter at hand. See Synonyms at relevant.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:06 PM
There werent any hispanics, because they were put on my list!!laugh laugh laugh laugh

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:06 PM

Hey adj, your right I did not notice there were no hispanics on the list, well, if you split the whites up in half and use that statistic maybe???????? I don't know, I guess the feds either consider them white or some other race then. Funny...but it still proves this one posted false and grossly off at any human level.


sorry to tell but yer fbi national stats do not disprove it

those are city and state figures

listed in the first post

so you will need to find the stats as listed by city and state listed to disprove them

flowerforyou

Dragoness's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:08 PM
Your propaganda has been proven for what it is insignificant rant....gniteflowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:16 PM
Percent of
population Census 2000,

Total Population- 296,410,404

White-80.2%

Black or African American-12.8%

American Indian and Alaska Native-1.0%

Asian-4.3%

Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander-0.2%


There thats better!!

adj4u's photo
Thu 11/15/07 09:21 PM
Underground Economy Growing as Illegal Immigrants Head to New States, More Jobs
By Angie Wagner, The Associated Press, December 3, 2005
Illegal immigrants are gaining a larger share of the job market and are spreading beyond traditional immigrant states like California, Texas, New York, Florida, Illinois and New Jersey, according to this article.
More illegals are moving to states like Utah, Washington, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Georgia and the Dakotas because of the increasing number of companies eager for cheap labor.
Vernon Briggs, a Cornell University labor economics professor, is quoted as saying: "The toleration of illegal immigration undermines all of our labor. It rips at the social fabric. It's a race to the bottom. The one who plays by the rules is penalized. It becomes a system that feeds on itself. It just goes on and on and on."
According to the Pew Hispanic Center, a research institute, the service sector employs the most illegal immigrants with 33 percent, followed by the construction industry, production and food processing and farming. The hotel and restaurant businesses and construction are the big employers. Pew estimates that more than 1 of every 4 drywall installers and landscape workers are illegal; about 1 in 5 workers in meat and poultry packing are illegal, as are about 1 in 6 in the leisure and hospitality industry or construction.
Pew estimates that the average illegal immigrant family makes $27,400 -- more than 40 percent below the legal immigrant or native family income of about $47,700.
John Keeley, spokesman for the Center for Immigration Studies, is quoted as saying: "We're seeing the wage bases in these industries erode simply because there is a glut of low-skill labor flooding the low-skill market. The business community has become addicted to it. It's a way for them to keep their business costs down."
More illegal workers do dangerous work and exploited, this article says. A 2004 Associated Press investigation found that Mexican workers are 80 percent more likely to die on the job than are native-born workers.

http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/east_asia_pacific/chinese_human_smuggling/smuggling_in_the_press/impact_on_governments.html

Dragoness's photo
Fri 11/16/07 07:57 AM
These reports you are finding are not from official INS site. The ins has released no new reports since the one done for the 9/11 attacks. I have searched. So for this false report to be INS/FBI is proven false and incorrect. I will say this again, enforce the laws that are on the books. Figure out a humane way of identifying and resolving the status of the illegals already here and move on. It is not as the racists who are perpetrating this propaganda would have one think. Racist love to take the human face off of their targets and make them less than animals so they can continue their hatemongering and fearmongering.

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:03 AM
Forge...I still do not like the implications of "bleeding hearts" as being a negative. It is not. You make it sound ugly when it really is not. Because someone likes people and wishes for fairness in the world as it is, is not wrong.
I am a woman first off...then a mother...that makes it kinda hard to be hateful and a dehumanizer. My heart is one that loves and wishes for compassion and life for us all.
The leaglity issue for me is moot as right now.
I see the implications that some of you see here. I also see the human side.
I am about family, and these people have families and breathe and bleed just like anyone else.
I wish that this issue gets resolved and those that have been here and worked really hard and caused no trouble, find a way to be a good American. I mean given the chance to do good, prosper, and live as American as those born here.
There has to be a way.
I pray that God gives His insight to fix this in the best and most significant way.

If you really think I spend much of my time thinking about what some say here; you would be wrong. So...that bridge won't be necessary. I may continue to think and research topics, but not the words of some that are negative in value.
Kat

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:04 AM

These reports you are finding are not from official INS site. The ins has released no new reports since the one done for the 9/11 attacks. I have searched. So for this false report to be INS/FBI is proven false and incorrect. I will say this again, enforce the laws that are on the books. Figure out a humane way of identifying and resolving the status of the illegals already here and move on. It is not as the racists who are perpetrating this propaganda would have one think. Racist love to take the human face off of their targets and make them less than animals so they can continue their hatemongering and fearmongering.




usinfo.state.gov/


that is the us state department

and i agree enforce the laws that are on the books

those laws say

if here illegally

you need to go elsewhere

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:11 AM
Classes of Deportable Aliens

Any alien that is in the United States may be subject to deportation or removal if he or she:

* Is an inadmissible alien according to immigration laws in effect at the time of entry to the U.S. or adjustment of nonimmigrant status;

* Is present in the U.S. in violation of the Immigration and Nationality Act or any other U.S. law;

* Violated nonimmigrant status or a condition of entry into the U.S.;

* Terminated a conditional permanent residence;

* Encouraged or aided any other alien to enter the U.S. illegally;

* Engaged in marriage fraud to gain admission to the U.S.;

* Was convicted of certain criminal offenses;

* Failed to register or falsified documents relating to entry in to the U.S.;

* Engaged in any activity that endangers public safety or creates a risk of national security; or

* Engaged in unlawful voting.


http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-deportation/immigration-deportation-overview.html

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:13 AM

(a) The Secretary of State shall be charged with the administration and the enforcement of the provisions of this Act and all other immigration and nationality laws relating to


http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=9d296ed8d97f728392be9cc37bc47260

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this shows the state department has final jurisdiction

Dragoness's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:14 AM
???? Everyone knows the laws that have been on the books since 1954 or so......and?????

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:16 AM

???? Everyone knows the laws that have been on the books since 1954 or so......and?????



just agreeing with what you said

they need enforced

and those here illegally

need to be deported

as you said

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:20 AM


SECTION 13 OF THE ACT OF SEPTEMBER 11, 1957

(71 Stat. 642; 8 U.S.C. 1255B)

as amended by section 17 of Public Law 97-116 and section 207 of Public Law 103-416

SEC. 13. Notwithstanding any other provision of law-

(a) Any alien admitted to the United States as a nonimmigrant under the provisions of either section 101(a)(15)(A) (i) or (ii) or 101(a)(15)(G) (i) or (ii) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, who has failed to maintain a status under any of those provisions, may apply to the Attorney General for adjustment of his status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence.

(b) If, after consultation with the Secretary of State, it shall appear to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that the alien has shown compelling reasons demonstrating both that the alien is unable to return to the country represented by the government which accredited the alien or the member of the alien's immediate family and that adjustment of the alien's status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence would be in the national interest, that the alien is a person of good moral character, that he is admissible for permanent residence under the Immigration and Nationality Act, and that such action would not be contrary to the national welfare, safety, or security, the Attorney General, in his discretion, may record the alien's lawful admission for permanent residence as of the date the order of the Attorney General approving the application for adjustment of status is made.

(c) A complete and detailed statement of the facts and pertinent provisions of law in the case.shall be reported to the Congress with the reasons for such adjustment of status. Such reports shall be submitted on the first day of each caledar month in which Congress is in session. The Secretary of State shall, if the alien was classifiable as a quota immigrant at the time of his entry, reduce by one the quota of the quota area to which the alien is chargeable under section 202 of the Immigration and National ity Act for the fiscal year then current or the next following year in which a quota is available. No quota shall be reduced by more than 50 per centum in any fiscal year.

(d) The number of aliens who may be granted the status of aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence in any fiscal year, pursuant to this section, shall not exceed fifty.

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=2b289cf41dd6b70a61a078a9fbfbc379

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notice the date wonder if it is relievent


note section (d)

makes amnesty illegal


gardenforge's photo
Fri 11/16/07 08:25 AM
Well Duh, all this argument about whether the figures are correct is moot. The percentage of the Illegal Aliens population committing crimes is in the U.S. 100% they ALL committed a crime by entering this country illegally.

Scttrbrain I didn't say "bleeding heart" was a negative, you are the one that got ticked off about the term. I made the assumption that you took it as a negative because not many people get ticked off about being called something positive. Once again you have artfully evaded the crux of the issue by falling back on "I am a woman and a mother.... " and we must show compassion etc. The issue is illegal entry to this country period.

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