I have experienced that a woman always fall for a wrong guy very quickly. And it is always hard for her to trust right guy. What I have noticed is that a flirty man always aims to sleep with the woman and once his desires are finished he moves on. The man beloniging to this kind never argues with a woman never interfere in her personal matters. He is always obidient just because to win her trust and sleep with her asap. On the other hand a real man, if his intentions are true he will always aproach a woman with positively. He would interfere in her personal matters will tell her what he likes what not because he wants to carry the relationship. His intentions are not to sleep and leave. Thats why sleeping with a woman is his last desire. Before that he wants to see if she can fit into her life and if he can fit into hers as well. Woman always find such man very difficult, dont trust them right away. Emotionally torture them for things which dont evern matter in relationship, but she just loves to torture them mentally. This is my experience. I may be wrong, but i have noticed many many times such story. So if you guys agree or disagree. Do share your thoughts about it. Thanks

Sorry about your frustration. I believe that you have been falling for the wrong women. It does take time to build trust but the right women will give you chance and not torture you for being a nice guy.

Good luck

I don't agree It sounds like you are attracting such women yourself by the way you are or behave and the energy you exude.
Holding the belief you got won't help you either.

A 'real man' interfering in her business is not the 'real man' a girl wants. How would you feel if someone would interfere in what you do??
Telling her what to do is trying to change someone. In a healthy relationship you don't try to change someone. You do the opposite and let the other be herself. If that doesn't match, you're just not right for each other.
Obedient men don't appeal to most women either.

Hope you get over your frustration so you can have a fresh, open approach again!

good luck

sometimes (often), we women know what we DON'T want..and it can be hard to determine where the guy is coming from (cause some men are such smooooth talkers!) If a guy wants to interfere in my business... that is a good possible deal-breaker and is again possibly the wrong dude for me.
I think you should re-evaluate..

A real man doesn't complain about women dating the wrong men.

Next question.

A real man just does not complain... Period..

Many times you have been tortured by simple women?
Sounds like you need the stability of a man.

I read through your post again and the part about "interfering in her personal business" bothers me

I may not be good with words. What I meant by interfering in her bussniess was something was not to change her. Its human nature. You like something and you dont like something. In a healthy relarionship you try to be open. You have to understand what your partner dont like and he has to understand what you dont like. They should stop doing such things in order to please one another. Yes I belive that its not just a duty of a woman. The rule applies for both of them. What I was saying is a guy having intentions for just having sex will never bother what you do or what you dont do. His goal is to have sex and move on. No matter how you behave or react. He dont care. Does not this make sense. Have not you guys experienced it. Its good people have read my post. May be I am wrong. So we can share experience, atleast some one will be guided. Thanks to all for taking time and going through my post.

Women are look a man like he is a criminal or some thing some thing look from ur heart

It took me a VERY long time to work out, but I think I have discovered the basic reasons for what you are describing.

First of all, you are describing it all from INSIDE your own point of view and your own emotional reactions, not from a dispassionate point of view. That has the result that you add to your own confusion and make your behavior worse, rather than better. You make it harder for you to make progress. I know, because I used to to the exact same thing.

Okay. Hard to grasp, and backwards sounding but absolutely true:

the women you are talking about do NOT want to be with a selfish jerk. However, they are strongly attracted to who they go after, BECAUSE the guy is a selfish jerk.

Whaaaaat? Okay, here's the tricky bit: the "selfish jerk," doesn't complicate things for her. They JUST say what they want, and mean exactly that, AT MOST. The deeply emotional, caring, supportive, thoughtful guy who "doesn't want to interfere with her pursuit of her own life goals," is actually a BURDEN to her, because she has to triple think everything he says and does, to try to work out when he's doing what HE thinks SHE wants, and when he's doing something for someone else, and when (if ever) he's doing what he wants, and therefore revealing to her who and what he really is.

Sounds complicated, and it is, but what it boils down to, is that the JERK is openly being what he is. The very nice gentlemanly supportive guy, is NOT openly being what he is.

This results in the "nice" guy appearing to be weak and directionless. The jerk on the other hand, appears to be strong and passionate, and it's not uncommon for women to decide to take the chance that they can persuade the jerk to be strong AND loyal, rather than try to train the "nice" guy to grow a spine, and be real with them.

So the jerk is safer, easier, and more fun to be with, and the hard working thoughtful guy, is a huge challenge all the time.

Unlike some of the others... I can relate to the OP's message.

I am struggling with the fact there is a guy interested in me but isn't flirtatious. And, I don't get it because I am use to guys giving negative attention.

i think he has correct observations
many women are more likely to go after the wrong man, and do not know the value of a good man.
my high school manager had a saying: "it takes a good girl to be fooled by a bad boy just 5 minutes"

i have to add; the other way round is valid too
good women are not valued enough, but the ones who are not worth it are given the worlds..

so it may be the human characteristics..

Hmmmm Do you serve a little cheese with this major whine about the women you date when the person doing the picking is you? And you being you.

I do not want a man who thinks he has to interfere in my personal matters, dictate how I am suppose to act to please him, and I sure do not want some whipped puppy that is always obedient or fronting he is the example of positivism. If you are the type that vocalizes he see women as trying to torture men; especially him, emotionally I figure someone probably has but it sure was long before I ever came along and I am going to run not walk to the exit. I have no need to break any man I want a relationship with on any level.

Do I want a man who starts out trying all things fair and foul to get into my panties ? No but if he gives me this high moral ground speech that sex does not matter to him immediately labels himself a liar to me because to want a partner sexually is just part of the normal attraction process. And I have yet to meet a real man who professes he is a real man and so better than other men and it just sounds like so much blah blah blah to me. You don't have tot try to bash the competition just because you can't get any traction getting in a relationship however short.

Actually I could explain my experience. It was basicLly a step ba step experience which made to realize how a woman has a poor sense while choosing a man.
So lets start it now as my topic has driven attention to some people which is good. I would like to thank all of you. It deserves more than appriciation. So lets start a good relationship.
The first step of loving someone is trust. Thats the first stair.
Assumptions are termites to a relation so you one must not assume in relation.
You must build bridges in relation instead of building walls in order to make a relationship healthy and long lasting.
Nature can be changed if you deeply start loving someone.
In a relationship both must have a submissive attitude and intentions to one another for long last loving.
Undertanding and respecting the liking and disliking is most important. And both the partners must not do things which hurt another.
So this is what I meant about interfering.
These all qualities are of a good man and he will be having such approach.
On the other hand a bad guy
He dont knowd basicaly what is a relationship.
He will keep giving compliments just to make her feel special.
He will never argue on anything.
He is best liar.
He will never explain what he likes and what he dont likes deeply.
He will never ask you to change as he has nothing to do with that.
He will never workout in relationship. Keep you running after him.
This is what I have observed. I have many firiends, those who were sincere. Evryone was went through a war of being trusted or not.
Those who were play boys, jumped from one to another and kept playing witg feelings of girls.
This I observed in my country Pakistan. Now the mentality and approach of womab changes with countries or not idk. I just shared mt experience.

Actually I could explain my experience. It was basicLly a step ba step experience which made to realize how a woman has a poor sense while choosing a man.
So lets start it now as my topic has driven attention to some people which is good. I would like to thank all of you. It deserves more than appriciation. So lets start a good relationship.
The first step of loving someone is trust. Thats the first stair.
Assumptions are termites to a relation so you one must not assume in relation.
You must build bridges in relation instead of building walls in order to make a relationship healthy and long lasting.
Nature can be changed if you deeply start loving someone.
In a relationship both must have a submissive attitude and intentions to one another for long last loving.
Undertanding and respecting the liking and disliking is most important. And both the partners must not do things which hurt another.
So this is what I meant about interfering.
These all qualities are of a good man and he will be having such approach.
On the other hand a bad guy
He dont knowd basicaly what is a relationship.
He will keep giving compliments just to make her feel special.
He will never argue on anything.
He is best liar.
He will never explain what he likes and what he dont likes deeply.
He will never ask you to change as he has nothing to do with that.
He will never workout in relationship. Keep you running after him.
This is what I have observed. I have many firiends, those who were sincere. Evryone was went through a war of being trusted or not.
Those who were play boys, jumped from one to another and kept playing witg feelings of girls.
This I observed in my country Pakistan. Now the mentality and approach of womab changes with countries or not idk. I just shared mt experience.

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Fantastic!

Sometimes maybe the wrong guy says what they think women want to hear even if they lie in the process x

Just who says that a "woman has a poor sense while choosing a man"?
The woman or you?

Maybe the woman disagrees with you.
Maybe the woman believes that you are not right for her.
Maybe she perceives the one you call a "bad guy" as being the right guy for her.