Topic: Why guy is always wrong?
PacificStar48's photo
Sun 02/21/16 07:17 AM

Actually there's a more important thing to recognize with this question.

The problem isn't with who's right or wrong, and it's ALSO not with who's right about who's wrong.

The people who have problems with blame, are the people who are convinced that DECIDING who's right and wrong in the relationship, is what matters.

In short, you know someone really loves you, and that you really love them, when no one CARES who's right or wrong, and instead you just deal with the problems.




Give this man the Gold Star!!! Bravo.

Jimmy_roy's photo
Sun 02/21/16 09:25 AM



This is like ....if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is around to hear it, is the man still wrong?
lol...Saw that posted somewhere over the years.


I agree this post is silly. The battle of the sexes has always been fun. But it is the ying and the yang. The sweet and the sour. The true the false. The one and the zero. The alpha and the omega. One side will always blame the other.

You know what? We forget what makes us human. That's why I used humor in this post. Ugg is the primal human trying to understand. All human beings are 50% female and 50% male. All you macho men and you women libbers. 50/50, you must agree. Even if it makes you angry. You must agree.

This is why men and women fight the battle of the sexes. So staunchly defending each side, not noticing that the battle is really a struggle within ourselves. Well that's all the time we have. Hope I've given you food for thought.

Partially agree ... we're not all 50% female and 50% male... like Yin doesn't hold 50% Yang and Yang doesn't hold 50% Yin.
I also don't believe we are fighting a battle of the sexes. We are simply working on finding a new balance, both in society and as individuals.
Possibly some people see it as a fight, those are usually not the ones that are doing well with this entire global process that's going on ...
It's not just a process within ourselves. You cannot disconnect society & individual as an individual is always part of a society and thus influenced by it. Even -maybe esp- the ones who rebel against it.
For some it may work from the inside out, for others from the outside in, but it's likely a combination of the two.
flowerforyou

I agree the world is competitive but we work to find a balance and individual is a part of society..but this is going offtopic i guess

Jimmy_roy's photo
Sun 02/21/16 09:26 AM


Actually there's a more important thing to recognize with this question.

The problem isn't with who's right or wrong, and it's ALSO not with who's right about who's wrong.

The people who have problems with blame, are the people who are convinced that DECIDING who's right and wrong in the relationship, is what matters.

In short, you know someone really loves you, and that you really love them, when no one CARES who's right or wrong, and instead you just deal with the problems.




Give this man the Gold Star!!! Bravo.


The lady has spoken...bravo

markc48's photo
Sun 02/21/16 02:04 PM
They may not be right but always have the last word.

indianadave4's photo
Mon 02/22/16 04:37 PM

Why people feel that it is always the guy`s fault for anything wrong in a relationship


Take note of how men are portrayed in movies, tv sitcoms, commercials, music, talk shows and political discussions. Over the last 40 years the media has begun degrading men. It's so common place that even men put themself down. During the 50's through early 70's you never saw this.

Typically men appear as dumb, fat, uneducated bafoons. Women have rolls of being smart, attractive, and educated. After 40 years of this philosophy society, unconciously, begins to beleive this. What is dangerous is the younger generation of boys and girls are fed this day in and day out. Even though it's "entertainment" when a society watches this night and day they begun to believe this.

Robxbox73's photo
Mon 02/22/16 05:04 PM




Just to keep her happy, why to take all the blame...we men too have voice and heart

Lot of women feel that way too. In that sense it's a surprise nobody's started a "Why do women always get blamed?" topic yet (okay, I haven't checked, I was watching a series, so maybe it is there by now).

All that blaming and pointing fingers is not getting you anywhere, it's what kids do. Take a good look at whatever happened when your not emotional anymore, take responsibility for your part in it, and work it out with your partner. And if you can't see eye to eye, well, then you're prolly not right for each other.

I have never seen anyone blaming the women (except from the partner), it is always the guy who gets the blame. He was not good, he can`t handle her, etc etc...even when she cut loose it is guys fault, she can`t take the blame so guy has to say its me..Poor guy

I think you listen/read very selectively ...
I believe you are a nice guy, but as long as you don't get a more mature and broader understanding, you will likely keep suffering in relationships. With your attitude you are prone to attract women with a similar attitude or women who will confirm your skewed views, making you even more convinced you are right. You are creating your own perpetual negative spiral ...
You can go on reveling in your sob story, or break out of the cycle, so you will also become happier in relationships.
Don't mean that in a harsh way, but you put your foot in a hole you dug yourself, and you're the only one who can pull it out so you can happily walk on your path again.
flowerforyou


Crystal Fairy, could it be a cultural thing?

Jimmy_roy's photo
Mon 02/22/16 10:29 PM

I think you listen/read very selectively ...
I believe you are a nice guy, but as long as you don't get a more mature and broader understanding, you will likely keep suffering in relationships. With your attitude you are prone to attract women with a similar attitude or women who will confirm your skewed views, making you even more convinced you are right. You are creating your own perpetual negative spiral ...
You can go on reveling in your sob story, or break out of the cycle, so you will also become happier in relationships.
Don't mean that in a harsh way, but you put your foot in a hole you dug yourself, and you're the only one who can pull it out so you can happily walk on your path again.
flowerforyou

Oh I missed this response. Well I was not talking only in terms of love relationship here but I understand your point of view. Frankly I operate according to my surroundings and the only place where I saw guys blaming ladies is in movies (Not sure what kind of guys you dated). My dad never blames my mom for anything, my friends make some occasional jokes, I myself never hit or blamed my lady for anything but I see so many times ladies just start blaming the guys, my neighbors are best example. I have many examples which when you hear you will also realize why so many guys (and ladies too) here also agree with me. So I just wanted to know is there any human behavior or factor which makes woman like this - sexy, cute but always blaming :wink:

RapsnRolls's photo
Tue 02/23/16 03:05 AM
Guys are always right

Jimmy_roy's photo
Tue 02/23/16 07:12 PM

Guys are always right

Thanks but not true dude. Anyway the thread is not about right or wrong but more on why men get blamed for everything flowerforyou

TMommy's photo
Tue 02/23/16 07:22 PM
Edited by TMommy on Tue 02/23/16 07:22 PM
think it sometimes has to do with the power differential in the relationship

many women may say they want to be treated like equals

and by that I mean they want a man that asks for and values their opinion

but then on the other hand...many women are afraid to make the hard
decisions and often spend a lot of time waffling ...

and look to the man to make the final call
which he does

and when it is all said and done
and there are consequences for making that decision

the woman may say " see I knew we should not have done that"

when at the time she was unwilling or unable to decide one way or another
and perfectly fine with letting him take the reigns

dktkg01's photo
Wed 02/24/16 07:46 AM
You will figure it out someday women just like to argue

TMommy's photo
Wed 02/24/16 08:21 AM

You will figure it out someday women just like to argue
I disagree bigsmile

nitesage's photo
Wed 02/24/16 08:42 AM
The Man is not always wrong in thee relationship. It works both ways people. If there is no balance then what's the point going any further in something that was never meant to be? One simple thing to understand stop living a lie. By living a life your only hurting yourself in the end. :)

Jimmy_roy's photo
Wed 02/24/16 10:17 AM

think it sometimes has to do with the power differential in the relationship

many women may say they want to be treated like equals

and by that I mean they want a man that asks for and values their opinion

but then on the other hand...many women are afraid to make the hard
decisions and often spend a lot of time waffling ...

and look to the man to make the final call
which he does

and when it is all said and done
and there are consequences for making that decision

the woman may say " see I knew we should not have done that"

when at the time she was unwilling or unable to decide one way or another
and perfectly fine with letting him take the reigns

Yeah you are right, this could be a/the reason. Finding a solution in this case is very hard....but thanks for pointing it out. Now time to think how to solve this kind of situation

Jimmy_roy's photo
Wed 02/24/16 10:20 AM

The Man is not always wrong in thee relationship. It works both ways people. If there is no balance then what's the point going any further in something that was never meant to be? One simple thing to understand stop living a lie. By living a life your only hurting yourself in the end. :)

Thanks friend but this topic applies to all ladies in your life like your sister, friends, etc. You can`t run away from all of them

Jimmy_roy's photo
Wed 02/24/16 10:23 AM

They may not be right but always have the last word.

May be but every time is not a good thing for guy`s self respect

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 02/24/16 10:25 AM


Why people feel that it is always the guy`s fault for anything wrong in a relationship


Take note of how men are portrayed in movies, tv sitcoms, commercials, music, talk shows and political discussions. Over the last 40 years the media has begun degrading men. It's so common place that even men put themself down. During the 50's through early 70's you never saw this.

Typically men appear as dumb, fat, uneducated bafoons. Women have rolls of being smart, attractive, and educated. After 40 years of this philosophy society, unconciously, begins to beleive this. What is dangerous is the younger generation of boys and girls are fed this day in and day out. Even though it's "entertainment" when a society watches this night and day they begun to believe this.


I think this is a good point. As a Sister, Wife, and Mother of sons I have not liked how men have been portrayed and pigeon holed either. I find it particular offensive when women say something derogatory about "all men" because men are individuals and some are on both ends of the spectrum but certainly is falling on your own sword to make it and us against them thing or thinking one sex is superior.

Jimmy_roy's photo
Wed 02/24/16 10:25 AM


Why people feel that it is always the guy`s fault for anything wrong in a relationship


Take note of how men are portrayed in movies, tv sitcoms, commercials, music, talk shows and political discussions. Over the last 40 years the media has begun degrading men. It's so common place that even men put themself down. During the 50's through early 70's you never saw this.

Typically men appear as dumb, fat, uneducated bafoons. Women have rolls of being smart, attractive, and educated. After 40 years of this philosophy society, unconciously, begins to beleive this. What is dangerous is the younger generation of boys and girls are fed this day in and day out. Even though it's "entertainment" when a society watches this night and day they begun to believe this.

This could be another reason, you are right. The frame of mind is set like that from childhood. Guys need to be educated about this.

nitesage's photo
Wed 02/24/16 12:09 PM
i don't think running away has ever crossed my mind in a relationship. Now if your speaking family wise. Then that is something completely different. There are many men and women who have gone through a very difficult time with broken families or even families who have given up. That is when you hear of all these insane reports on the news of family members attacking each other and committing suicide. Some due seek help in the right places. Others may not be able to seek help due to their current situation. But nevertheless you are correct Friend.

nitesage's photo
Wed 02/24/16 12:10 PM
Edited by nitesage on Wed 02/24/16 12:15 PM
Jimmy roy is right though. The Media in fact portrays men as aggressive, abusive, mentally ill, sick, depraved, homicidal. psychopathic, etc. Just look at the Lifetime channel.. Almost every movie on there makes a man seem like men are the devil and women are always so defenseless and helpless. All men are not like that and not all women are defenseless and helpless.