Ha, ha I would have no problem saying what I wanted...oh a little softer, little bit faster, ok a little harder,

and i thought we were talking about you wanting some "meat"...

the bedroom director...i always ignored directions, i always just keep on keeping on... doesn't make a lot of sense trying to make a woman happy, we all know the results when we try...

Hmmmm. I am intrigued that in a society where genders roles have evolved so much and women have become so assertive in a number of ways that they would have automatically become more comfortable with asking for what they want from their partners. Is it one of the few areas that many females have not been empowered in the woman's movement?

I am so comfortable with women....partners, bosses, friends, etc. saying exactly what they want to communicate.

Frankly it is a relief! My favorite Boss EVER said to (my first name)...if I had a deek to wag....I would wag it RIGHT NOW....so WAG YOURS!!!

I will love/RESPECT!!! that Boss for the rest of my career!

That's good you persevere and fumble through! I am sure they've appreciated your efforts...

"fumbling through" seems to be a trademark... i've always been told i'm the best - or tried my best, not sure which now...

LOL Rusty; Go gal.

They do.
Just in ways they were trained to and in ways that come more natural to them.


Because communication is more complex than that.

Might as well ask "why is no response to my email considered a response? Why don't they just send me an email listing every single emotional reaction and feeling and thought and decision they went through in deciding they either didn't want to date me, couldn't love me, or just didn't want to respond to my email, all without considering or caring about how I might react, emotionally or towards them?"


Could be part of it.
There's always multiple layers to communication.
Except with direct communication used as transmission of facts.
Emotional needs aren't very well communicated with unemotional expression.
It's why people keep coming up with their own words attempting to. e.g. "awesome sauce," and, "amazeballs."


How would she "know?"
He would have to communicate it.
Do you think she'd believe him if he said "I genuinely want to meet your need but don't know how."
Exactly as it's typed. No inflection whatsoever, completely straight faced without any emotional body language whatsoever.
Robotic.

If you don't want robotic communication then you do want indirect communication, reliance on body language, indirect cues and clues.
Then it's just a matter of scale.
Women rely on it more than men, traditionally speaking.
Simply because it is smarter for women to handle problems more socially rather than physically, which requires emotional communication.


Women haven't really been empowered.
What's happened is more centralized enforced sameness labeled "equality."
Women are subsidized if they learn to act and speak like men and follow the same path towards "success" (highest potential) that generally represented masculinity.
Be strong, be independent, get an education, get a job, produce, rely on no one, self reliant physically and emotionally, deal with problems head on alone, if you can't then something is wrong with you.
Communicate efficiently, directly, unemotionally, sterile, say what you want mean what you say, hide your emotions, those are weakness.

Women haven't been empowered as women, only herded into behaving more like men, being considered victims until they do.


See?
Stereotypically men are considered "dogs," capable of removing sex from emotion, of using and objectifying women, focusing on selfish desire, avoiding emotional attachment, of seeing only sex as important.
That encompasses the quoted statement.

I had my meat in the meantime, so I'm content and happy

Don't get me started on the complexities of male-female communication. Lots of reasons, good and bad, valid and invalid, for why people do or don't say what they mean.

Can't say that I've seen that much difference in the QUANTITY of poor communication.

I guess the most common thing I see people go wrong with, is trying to say what they mean, using phrases they heard other people say, instead of working out how to say what they mean using their own words.

i never realized how much meat could be a means to a womans contentment... or maybe there just wasn't enough sausage for me to make the correlation...

Yeah, I knew that nobody on here would understand what I was talking about.

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it depends to the man though, if i want him to observe and be attentive i gave clues but when i know he has all ears in me im straight to the point.. Im the kind of a woman who dont want to repeat what I am saying when I want something.

I'm not sure they don't say what the want.

It's not like women leave cryptic crossword clues.

It takes two to communicate properly so if someone says something and you don't understand you could say it's also the fault of the listener for not asking exactly what they mean.

If two ships are on a collision course and you were the officer on one of them you can bet your bottom dollar you would ask the other WTF he is doing.

But ships still collide, in a court of law both are to blame, not always equally, but both bear some fault.

Relationship communication is similar, hopefully at the end of the day both will sail off into the sunset side by side.

Yes......how to force those trees talking? Hell......even that doll you've join to chipchat about can 'talk'......oh man.....I bet 10cent they will not like to eat eggs........XD

Unless there will be 50% cut off and 101% quality garantee.....

Market and don't...........go tell your mommy we have 75% all goodies cutting off and nice gifting cards for sails.....what you waiting for? Listening and more~~~~~
And do not doubt about our all production they are all totally 100% green source and daddy mow's good caring........

the crickets don't like mental anguish