Topic: San Bernardino California Shooting
mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/03/15 02:31 PM


The assault rifles were a .223-caliber DPMS Model A15 and a Smith & Wesson M&P15.

An M&P15 rifle was one of three weapons used by James Eagan Holmes in the 2012 Aurora, Colorado, mass shooting at a movie theater that killed 12 people and injured 70 others.[8][9] The 100-round drum magazine inserted in his rifle jammed partway through the shooting.[10][11]


both can be easily purchased online for aboot 1000.00

In California?


i don't know, all it said was a quick 3 day waiting period... as long as they are not automatic, i don't think it matters... but it's not real hard to change the firing pin to make them fully auto...

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 12/03/15 02:59 PM



The assault rifles were a .223-caliber DPMS Model A15 and a Smith & Wesson M&P15.

An M&P15 rifle was one of three weapons used by James Eagan Holmes in the 2012 Aurora, Colorado, mass shooting at a movie theater that killed 12 people and injured 70 others.[8][9] The 100-round drum magazine inserted in his rifle jammed partway through the shooting.[10][11]


both can be easily purchased online for aboot 1000.00

In California?


i don't know, all it said was a quick 3 day waiting period... as long as they are not automatic, i don't think it matters... but it's not real hard to change the firing pin to make them fully auto...

you need to change more than a Firing-Pin to make it go Full-Auto!!
Actually you need to add parts,which is beyond the capabilities of most!
Black Market would be an easier proposition!

This one was given to retiring Swiss Militia-Men,after it was reworked to Semi-Auto only!
Would take way to much work and know-how plus parts to restore the Full-Auto Capability!

Yep,we kept the full-auto-Version of it at Home,with Ammo during our Service-time!laugh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_510

Same goes for the AR-15,which is the civilian semi-automatic version, of the M16!
But,except for looks,it is far removed from an Assault-Rifle!

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/second-amendment-2/after-lying-for-30-years-new-york-times-finally-admits-assault-weapons-are-a-myth

After Lying For 30 Years, New York Times Finally Admits “Assault Weapons Are A Myth”laugh

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 02:59 PM






"Two of their four guns had been bought legally, sources told NBC News."

indifferent


You mean the "Gun Free zone" signs didn't stop them? Maybe that's why they had over a dozen home made pipe bombs and materials to make more.
We should have "Pipe Bomb Free zone" signs too. That would stop all the pipe bombings for sure.


indifferent



There's no denying the ante has been upped, why is it that law enforcement ALWAYS say the individuals were "under investigation" when massacres like this happens? Makes me think the investigators are doing a chit job,
we can take some comfort the attackers were completely useless and incompetent at bomb making, they still shot up a room full of innocent people with assault rifles... there's no way Jack from accounting with his .38 tucked in his pocket could have done anything to stop this.

it's quite weird you guys bring up gun free zones when it doesn't make one iota of a difference up against assault weapons and surprise...

gun free zones or not, that's not the problem.waving
Bullmalarkey!
Look at the Evidence of shootings before you sneer,and remember,they are coming for you Guys as well!

BTW,WHAT Assault-Rifles?


spock

Farook and Malik were found with assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns, and were wearing "assault-style clothing" with ammunition attached, authorities said.

laugh laugh laugh
Fully automatic Weapons then?
You Guys are a Joke!
Man,you really ought to read up on Weaponry,Firearms in particular!


What? smokin


2000$ and 3 days is all it took for these maniacs to cause this much damage

I'm shocked!

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 03:24 PM
they still shot
up a room full of innocent
people with assault rifles...
If only CA had laws banning those dreaded "assault rifles" and magazines with capacities over 10 rds....























.....oh wait, California does.


gun free zones or not, that's
not the problem.
Ill agree with you there...thats not the problem....we have a "people" problem.....and, in this particular case, its lookng more and more like an 'Islamic terrorist" type of "people" problem

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/03/15 03:27 PM







"Two of their four guns had been bought legally, sources told NBC News."

indifferent


You mean the "Gun Free zone" signs didn't stop them? Maybe that's why they had over a dozen home made pipe bombs and materials to make more.
We should have "Pipe Bomb Free zone" signs too. That would stop all the pipe bombings for sure.


indifferent



There's no denying the ante has been upped, why is it that law enforcement ALWAYS say the individuals were "under investigation" when massacres like this happens? Makes me think the investigators are doing a chit job,
we can take some comfort the attackers were completely useless and incompetent at bomb making, they still shot up a room full of innocent people with assault rifles... there's no way Jack from accounting with his .38 tucked in his pocket could have done anything to stop this.

it's quite weird you guys bring up gun free zones when it doesn't make one iota of a difference up against assault weapons and surprise...

gun free zones or not, that's not the problem.waving
Bullmalarkey!
Look at the Evidence of shootings before you sneer,and remember,they are coming for you Guys as well!

BTW,WHAT Assault-Rifles?


spock

Farook and Malik were found with assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns, and were wearing "assault-style clothing" with ammunition attached, authorities said.

laugh laugh laugh
Fully automatic Weapons then?
You Guys are a Joke!
Man,you really ought to read up on Weaponry,Firearms in particular!


What? smokin


2000$ and 3 days is all it took for these maniacs to cause this much damage

I'm shocked!


don't worry, it's coming to a neighborhood near you soon...ohwell

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 03:41 PM
Uh they live in arizona for a while, acquire pretty much anything they want, then cross over... California could have the strictest guns laws in the world, i can't see making a difference if the surrounding states are so "liberal" with weapons

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 03:43 PM








"Two of their four guns had been bought legally, sources told NBC News."

indifferent


You mean the "Gun Free zone" signs didn't stop them? Maybe that's why they had over a dozen home made pipe bombs and materials to make more.
We should have "Pipe Bomb Free zone" signs too. That would stop all the pipe bombings for sure.


indifferent



There's no denying the ante has been upped, why is it that law enforcement ALWAYS say the individuals were "under investigation" when massacres like this happens? Makes me think the investigators are doing a chit job,
we can take some comfort the attackers were completely useless and incompetent at bomb making, they still shot up a room full of innocent people with assault rifles... there's no way Jack from accounting with his .38 tucked in his pocket could have done anything to stop this.

it's quite weird you guys bring up gun free zones when it doesn't make one iota of a difference up against assault weapons and surprise...

gun free zones or not, that's not the problem.waving
Bullmalarkey!
Look at the Evidence of shootings before you sneer,and remember,they are coming for you Guys as well!

BTW,WHAT Assault-Rifles?


spock

Farook and Malik were found with assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns, and were wearing "assault-style clothing" with ammunition attached, authorities said.

laugh laugh laugh
Fully automatic Weapons then?
You Guys are a Joke!
Man,you really ought to read up on Weaponry,Firearms in particular!


What? smokin


2000$ and 3 days is all it took for these maniacs to cause this much damage

I'm shocked!


don't worry, it's coming to a neighborhood near you soon...ohwell


At a 1000$ Gimme 2, you guys are nuts lol

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/03/15 03:45 PM









"Two of their four guns had been bought legally, sources told NBC News."

indifferent


You mean the "Gun Free zone" signs didn't stop them? Maybe that's why they had over a dozen home made pipe bombs and materials to make more.
We should have "Pipe Bomb Free zone" signs too. That would stop all the pipe bombings for sure.


indifferent



There's no denying the ante has been upped, why is it that law enforcement ALWAYS say the individuals were "under investigation" when massacres like this happens? Makes me think the investigators are doing a chit job,
we can take some comfort the attackers were completely useless and incompetent at bomb making, they still shot up a room full of innocent people with assault rifles... there's no way Jack from accounting with his .38 tucked in his pocket could have done anything to stop this.

it's quite weird you guys bring up gun free zones when it doesn't make one iota of a difference up against assault weapons and surprise...

gun free zones or not, that's not the problem.waving
Bullmalarkey!
Look at the Evidence of shootings before you sneer,and remember,they are coming for you Guys as well!

BTW,WHAT Assault-Rifles?


spock

Farook and Malik were found with assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns, and were wearing "assault-style clothing" with ammunition attached, authorities said.

laugh laugh laugh
Fully automatic Weapons then?
You Guys are a Joke!
Man,you really ought to read up on Weaponry,Firearms in particular!


What? smokin


2000$ and 3 days is all it took for these maniacs to cause this much damage

I'm shocked!


don't worry, it's coming to a neighborhood near you soon...ohwell


At a 1000$ Gimme 2, you guys are nuts lol


i think they have internet in Canada too, so you can get it at the same price... actually, it said 750 - 1900, depending on the model...

fsaguy29's photo
Thu 12/03/15 03:51 PM
FBI tracking possible terrorist link
for more information see
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/03/2-suspects-killed-shootout-san-bernardino-massacre-14-killed/

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:13 PM

Uh they live in arizona for a while, acquire pretty much anything they want, then cross over... California could have the strictest guns laws in the world, i can't see making a difference if the surrounding states are so "liberal" with weapons
Um...no, states arent liberal with weapons...PEOPLE knowlingly break existing laws to get the weapons, yet the gun control crowd think MORE laws....that will be broke also...are the answer, when, in this particular case for sure, existing laws failed. But hey, liberals are an insane bunch, they keep wanting to pass more laws and expect different results.

tulip2633's photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:24 PM
From the posts I've read here, it sounds as if the terrorist lost his temper and blew his cover. I'm not making light of the deaths but it's obvious a bigger plan was in action, what with all the bomb/bomb making materials found. This tragedy probably saved lives, in the end.

Regarding that friend, how many other green card/fiance visas are out there? Isn't that the oldest trick in the book? How does that happen in today's environment?

It's scary to think how many sleepers are already in the US; living amongst us as neighbors, friends, and coworkers.


tulip2633's photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:33 PM
Also, if they found all that bomb making material in one house, it indicates to me that there are many, many more houses such as that. It can't be just the one.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:36 PM

Also, if they found all that bomb making material in one house, it indicates to me that there are many, many more houses such as that. It can't be just the one.


it also has to do with his terrorist contacts he has been in touch with... the NSA always saying how they need to watch for terrorists, but they sure dropped the ball on this one... and they wanna let more muslims over here, and they can't even keep track of the ones already here...

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:38 PM
i'm realy doubt about what you dues argue about. one day the whole world will gona wonder that the gun knows how to talk how to walk then finally it will realizing that words " yea I'm cool." then people dying there it is because the gun knows how to killing people with out any outer causes. Hmmm~~~~~~ then fruit knift do so..... because they can talk too......drinks

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:48 PM
Edited by nailcap on Thu 12/03/15 04:50 PM










"Two of their four guns had been bought legally, sources told NBC News."

indifferent


You mean the "Gun Free zone" signs didn't stop them? Maybe that's why they had over a dozen home made pipe bombs and materials to make more.
We should have "Pipe Bomb Free zone" signs too. That would stop all the pipe bombings for sure.


indifferent



There's no denying the ante has been upped, why is it that law enforcement ALWAYS say the individuals were "under investigation" when massacres like this happens? Makes me think the investigators are doing a chit job,
we can take some comfort the attackers were completely useless and incompetent at bomb making, they still shot up a room full of innocent people with assault rifles... there's no way Jack from accounting with his .38 tucked in his pocket could have done anything to stop this.

it's quite weird you guys bring up gun free zones when it doesn't make one iota of a difference up against assault weapons and surprise...

gun free zones or not, that's not the problem.waving
Bullmalarkey!
Look at the Evidence of shootings before you sneer,and remember,they are coming for you Guys as well!

BTW,WHAT Assault-Rifles?


spock

Farook and Malik were found with assault rifles and semi-automatic handguns, and were wearing "assault-style clothing" with ammunition attached, authorities said.

laugh laugh laugh
Fully automatic Weapons then?
You Guys are a Joke!
Man,you really ought to read up on Weaponry,Firearms in particular!


What? smokin


2000$ and 3 days is all it took for these maniacs to cause this much damage

I'm shocked!


don't worry, it's coming to a neighborhood near you soon...ohwell


At a 1000$ Gimme 2, you guys are nuts lol


i think they have internet in Canada too, so you can get it at the same price... actually, it said 750 - 1900, depending on the model...

no no no~~~~ only 200$. those lovly lady said only 200$ you saving one more beauty......and you gan aiming everything all night long.....why? becauze beoble need foods not bullets, you want do eat that metal head? no tasteful as uncile duco said so.....yes....he is old even don't need do dalk doo much when he want do shooding some one. you dues get that? yes till blondy wants do know the only the guns gan dalk not the beoble........pitchfork

Rock's photo
Thu 12/03/15 04:54 PM
The Obama Brotherhood strikes again.

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 05:00 PM

i'm realy doubt about what you dues argue about. one day the whole world will gona wonder that the gun knows how to talk how to walk then finally it will realizing that words " yea I'm cool." then people dying there it is because the gun knows how to killing people with out any outer causes. Hmmm~~~~~~ then fruit knift do so..... because they can talk too......drinks


Hi nailcap waving

We are always crazy like this drinker
Don't take us too serious or you will end up like we are... RUN HIDE scared


rofl I am joking wirh you

tulip2633's photo
Thu 12/03/15 05:05 PM


Also, if they found all that bomb making material in one house, it indicates to me that there are many, many more houses such as that. It can't be just the one.


it also has to do with his terrorist contacts he has been in touch with... the NSA always saying how they need to watch for terrorists, but they sure dropped the ball on this one... and they wanna let more muslims over here, and they can't even keep track of the ones already here...


I'm sure it's an overwhelming tasks. There's got to be so many that have been here for such a long time and fully integrated into society.

Pretty scary if this type of terrorist flies under the NSA's radar, the ones that don't must be far worse.


no photo
Thu 12/03/15 05:19 PM


i'm realy doubt about what you dues argue about. one day the whole world will gona wonder that the gun knows how to talk how to walk then finally it will realizing that words " yea I'm cool." then people dying there it is because the gun knows how to killing people with out any outer causes. Hmmm~~~~~~ then fruit knift do so..... because they can talk too......drinks


Hi nailcap waving

We are always crazy like this drinker
Don't take us too serious or you will end up like we are... RUN HIDE scared


rofl I am joking wirh you


Ar~~~~~~~No~~~~~~No more joke~~~No~~~~~yes i've wondering do we like some Old Bla yelling some thing horrible under the public sistituaion? No.......Mow.......Yo.........Mumble then..... what's to hold on.......what's the deal?.....he he he~ 1$ i bet you don't get what i'm meaning about.......pitchfork

no photo
Thu 12/03/15 05:50 PM



i'm realy doubt about what you dues argue about. one day the whole world will gona wonder that the gun knows how to talk how to walk then finally it will realizing that words " yea I'm cool." then people dying there it is because the gun knows how to killing people with out any outer causes. Hmmm~~~~~~ then fruit knift do so..... because they can talk too......drinks


Hi nailcap waving

We are always crazy like this drinker
Don't take us too serious or you will end up like we are... RUN HIDE scared


rofl I am joking wirh you


Ar~~~~~~~No~~~~~~No more joke~~~No~~~~~yes i've wondering do we like some Old Bla yelling some thing horrible under the public sistituaion? No.......Mow.......Yo.........Mumble then..... what's to hold on.......what's the deal?.....he he he~ 1$ i bet you don't get what i'm meaning about.......pitchfork


Public situation ? The media, news people on TV? They are horrible !
Or do you mean in real life ? Rude people.
Or here on the web/ intetnet ?
Sure.. We fight sometimes, we laugh sometimes too. :wink: