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Topic: San Bernardino California Shooting
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Sat 12/05/15 08:15 AM
Edited by RebelArcher on Sat 12/05/15 08:23 AM
The FBI evidence receipt had CHRISTMAS
LIGHTS (OOPS!!!!) among the items seized and
the 12 'pipe bombs' were empty just like the
one they tossed out during the chase. No
wires no fuses no black powder inside.
You DO realize that where that stuff was found has been described as a bomb factory right? A factory where stuff is assembled.. .possibly for later...which has been theorized as a definite possibility had the duo not been discovered when they were. And your "OOPS" Christmas lights? They were to be used as fuses once all the devices were assembled...just likethe online ISIS videos that ol Syed and Tafeen were viewing said to do.

Isil still hasn't assumed or accepted
responsibility for the attack.
See karmafury's post that is before this one.

I don't know whether to call it a conflict of
interest or an interest of conflict. I think the
latter.
Its neither of those two...its Islamic terrorism....plain and simple....no matter how much some try to ignore it. They SO wish it was an act committed by white right wing militia members but it wasnt. Deal with it.
Ill even help a bit...here ya go....





.....wipe those liberal tears away.

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Sat 12/05/15 08:49 AM

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Sat 12/05/15 09:13 AM


rofl rofl rofl Sums it up great!

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Sat 12/05/15 09:31 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/428071/what-proof-obama-waiting-jonah-goldberg

What Proof Is Obama Waiting For?

In this week’s G-File. I wrote it before the FBI finally confirmed that San Bernardino was being investigated as a “terrorist attack” and before we learned that that Tashfeen Malik had pledged allegiance to ISIS.
Even then, I thought the question of whether or not the couple was “radicalized” was fairly ludicrous: Just curious: What discrete piece of info are we waiting for to get a definitive answer to that question? Because I thought it might be the thousands of rounds of ammo, the remote-control-car-bombs, the decision to abandon their six-month-old daughter, the contacts with terror suspects and, oh yeah, the murder of 14 people. But hey, that’s just me.
As I said, I wrote that before the FBI confirmed this was terrorism and before we knew that Malik embraced ISIS. And yet president Obama is still not committing to the idea that this was a terrorist attack. In his weekly radio address he says: It is entirely possible that these two attackers were radicalized to commit this act of terror. And if so, it would underscore a threat we’ve been focused on for years—the danger of people succumbing to violent extremist ideologies. We know that ISIL and other terrorist groups are actively encouraging people—around the world and in our country—to commit terrible acts of violence, often times as lone wolf actors. And even as we work to prevent attacks, all of us—government, law enforcement, communities, faith leaders—need to work together to prevent people from falling victim to these hateful ideologies. As has been noted many, many, times — because it’s happened many, many, times — the president hates conceding the obvious when it comes to terrorism. At this point, it’s clear this is a deliberate strategy. By denying or delaying recognition of terror attacks and the terror threat he thinks he can ride out the news cycle and American attention spans and switch to another topic, say, gun control or climate change. One can’t deny that it’s worked for him. It just doesn’t speak well of him.


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Sat 12/05/15 12:20 PM
_germanchocolate1981

"The FBI evidence receipt had CHRISTMAS LIGHTS (OOPS!!!!)"

You mock & minimize this attack & investigation ?
To find fault with the police & FBI... Again?

14 Americans are dead.
14 Christians & Jews are dead.
Slaughtered at a CHRISTMAS party in a center for the disabled in The United States of America.

Slaughtered, in cold blood by the hands of Islamic terrorists, in the name of Allah .
A couple who had CHRISTMAS lights in their apartment! What's wrong with this picture?
Do you think they had the lights to assimilate their 6 month old, in American culture so she can have fun like the other kids ?
Is that what you are telling yourself? Or are you telling yourself Americans & Mingle2 are bashing a religion ,race, or culture ?

These terrorists were not your 'unarmed black criminals' or black criminals w/illegal weapons' s ' that you are always too quick to defend.
So #theydonotmatter ?

How dare we be angry or mourn or talk about an ACT OF WAR on the USA. When we should be cop bashing & praising dead criminals.
* yes..sarcasm*

Blame your Emperor for being lax (with pre existing laws) & or intentionally risking American lives for his own intentions.
His loyalty is to his citizens ,it is his first duty, (all enemies foreign & domestic) And his reaction & lack of action is deplorable. The whole world knew who (group) was responsible. He should of had the FBI, Home Land Security etc..in charge immediately.
His denial has made an entire nation of spiritual people angry & he has made it far more difficult for our Muslims here..who are innocent.

Humm... Think that is the plan? Racial & religious division? Social unrest.. ? Nah..that couldn't possibly be it. Why wouldn't anyone want another term over this mess?

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Sat 12/05/15 12:23 PM
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Sat 12/05/15 01:18 PM

That pledge to al-baghdadi came during the shooting... Self radicalization.
The FBI evidence receipt had CHRISTMAS LIGHTS (OOPS!!!!) among the items seized and the 12 'pipe bombs' were empty just like the one they tossed out during the chase. No wires no fuses no black powder inside.
One of guys from the SWAT team is Iranian, as were one of the victims.
Isil still hasn't assumed or accepted responsibility for the attack.
Radical Islamic terrorism and Christmas lights...
I don't know whether to call it a conflict of interest or an interest of conflict. I think the latter.




they didn't brief you about IEDs in the Service?

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Sat 12/05/15 06:40 PM

President Barack Obama plans to address the nation Sunday from the Oval Office on the government's efforts to keep Americans safe, the White House announced.

Obama will address the ongoing investigation of the San Bernardino attacks, as well as the broader threat of terrorism, according to a release from the White House Press Secretary sent out Saturday. The address is scheduled for 8 EST.
(Washington DC time)

Obama to make Oval Office address in wake of terror attack - POLITICO http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/obama-oval-office-address-terror-216457/

.......strong conviction that ISIL will be destroyed and that the United States must draw upon our values — our unwavering commitment to justice, equality and freedom — to prevail over terrorist groups that use violence to advance a destructive ideology," the release said.

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Sat 12/05/15 08:41 PM

_germanchocolate1981

"The FBI evidence receipt had CHRISTMAS LIGHTS (OOPS!!!!)"

You mock & minimize this attack & investigation ?
To find fault with the police & FBI... Again?

14 Americans are dead.
14 Christians & Jews are dead.
Slaughtered at a CHRISTMAS party in a center for the disabled in The United States of America.

Slaughtered, in cold blood by the hands of Islamic terrorists, in the name of Allah .
A couple who had CHRISTMAS lights in their apartment! What's wrong with this picture?
Do you think they had the lights to assimilate their 6 month old, in American culture so she can have fun like the other kids ?
Is that what you are telling yourself? Or are you telling yourself Americans & Mingle2 are bashing a religion ,race, or culture ?

These terrorists were not your 'unarmed black criminals' or black criminals w/illegal weapons' s ' that you are always too quick to defend.
So #theydonotmatter ?

How dare we be angry or mourn or talk about an ACT OF WAR on the USA. When we should be cop bashing & praising dead criminals.
* yes..sarcasm*

Blame your Emperor for being lax (with pre existing laws) & or intentionally risking American lives for his own intentions.
His loyalty is to his citizens ,it is his first duty, (all enemies foreign & domestic) And his reaction & lack of action is deplorable. The whole world knew who (group) was responsible. He should of had the FBI, Home Land Security etc..in charge immediately.
His denial has made an entire nation of spiritual people angry & he has made it far more difficult for our Muslims here..who are innocent.

Humm... Think that is the plan? Racial & religious division? Social unrest.. ? Nah..that couldn't possibly be it. Why wouldn't anyone want another term over this mess?


Houck, sure. I'm mocking him because he's not part of the investigation yet he plays a central role in the court of public opinion. The FBI aic on the scene wouldn't call it terrorism but across the country houck has info that he doesn't? BS.
Did anybody else notice the HUGE 2001 number on the evidence collection/mobile command center bus the helicopters kept circling over?
What about the 'dating profile' of his seeking a good Muslim woman that would work on cars with him (FORBIDDEN) go snowboarding (wtf...) and GO TO THE SHOOTING RANGE WITH HIM?
For people who don't read or notice details I'm pointing out that the 'radical Islamic terrorist(s) had Christmas lights. IT DOESN'T FIT. They struck before the 'umph' for their untriumpant attack was ready. I praised the San Bernardino PD, the Sheriff and the inter agency collaboration to turn this couple into pink mist. It's kinda important that the FBI found those Christmas lights, if anybody is mocking the FBI that would be Conrad's repost. They seized the RELEVANT evidence. They can't take a pizza wheel and cut the town house out of the complex and put it in the evidence room.
What we should be angry with is the fake address on the K1 (fiance VISA). Be angry even though the guy had firearms that were legal when purchased and flew to Saudi Arabia and came back with his mythical wife he managed to get 30 rd mags for the Ar--15s and 6000≈ rds they never popped the radar of the FBI 60 miles away? The FBI would have known EXACTLY who and where they were who they were talking to and probably what kind of toilet paper they used IF that K1 was properly vetted. None of this happens without that document and the investigation that SHOULD have left her in SaudI or back in Pakistan. Direct your anger there not at a person who defended YOUR freedom.
If you don't direct your anger at that K1 mockery we are going to be stuck with stricter gun control than cali already has, mag restrictions, ammo hoarding laws, minimum order laws. Gun grabs are out without completely rewriting the constitution but if you can't get bullets, powder or presses for self loads your Winchester becomes as useful as a Louisville slugger minus the slug. WATCH.
And for your information I picked up PIECES of good AMERICAN MEN who were victims of ieds in Baghdad. I carried stretchers of DEAD and DYING AMERICANS we couldn't save. I felt screams I couldn't hear while tournaquits were being applied. When you carry an arm around the aftermath of a car bomb trying to match it to its owner then you can tell me what war is.

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Sun 12/06/15 10:40 AM
1 hour ago

San Bernardino terrorism probe widens as Obama is set to speak - LA Times

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-terror-probe-widens-as-obama-set-to-speak-20151206-story.html/

U.S. intelligence analysts have no reason to doubt the authenticity of an Islamic State online broadcast Saturday that claimed last week's rampage was carried out by supporters, an American official said.

The broadcast on the group's official radio station said of the couple, “We pray to God to accept them as martyrs,” but did not claim Islamic State had played a role in planning the attack.
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I think people should look up the definition of 'martyr'

Because I am sure there are in Satan's waiting room spock

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Sun 12/06/15 02:06 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/05/shooters-mother-active-in-us-branch-of-pro-caliphate-islamic-group/

Shooter’s Mother Active In US Branch Of Pro-Caliphate Islamic Group


Rafia Farook, the mother of San Bernardino terrorist Syed Rizwan Farook, is an active member of the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), a Muslim organization that promotes the establishment of a caliphate and has ties to a radical Pakistani political group called Jamaat-e-Islami.

Farook’s affiliation with ICNA was revealed on Friday when MSNBC and other new outlets scoured the Farooks’ apartment in Redlands, Cal. An MSNBC reporter found a certificate of appreciation presented to Safia Farook last summer by ICNA’s sisters’ wing.

On Wednesday, Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeed Malik, killed 14 people during a holiday party being held for San Bernardino County workers in what the FBI considers a terrorist attack.

Malik reportedly posted a comment to Facebook during the attack stating her allegiance to ISIS. Farook is also believed to have communicated with known terrorists based overseas.

Though ICNA has not been named as a target in the ongoing investigation into Wednesday’s attack, the group has been associated with many others who have engaged in terrorism or plotted to do so.

Al-Qaeda recruiter Anwar al-Awlaki has spoken at the group’s events. He spoke at an ICNA event in Baltimore in 2002, though the group has said that al-Awlaki was not radicalized at that time. Al-Awlaki exchanged emails with Nidal Hasan, the Army major who killed 13 people in a terrorist attack at Fort Hood in Nov. 2009. Al-Awlaki was killed by a U.S. drone strike in 2011 in Yemen.

Another ICNA member was indicted in April on federal terrorism charges. Noelle Valentzas and another woman were charged with plotting an attack on New York City similar to the attacks at the Boston Marathon.

As The Daily Caller uncovered at the time, Velentzas gave presentations at at least two ICNA events in recent years. One of those, ICNA’s 2012 annual convention, was also attended by Indiana Rep. Andre Carson, one of two Muslims in the House of Representatives. (RELATED: One Of The Women Who Plotted NYC Attack Had Ties To U.S. Islamic Group)

And in 2009, five American students who knew each other from an ICNA mosque in Alexandria, Va. were arrested in Pakistan and charged with plotting to attack American troops in Afghanistan.

Founded in 1968 and is based in Jamaica, N.Y., ICNA is considered one of the more conservative Islamic umbrella organizations operating in the U.S. Unlike other groups like the Islamic Society of North America or the Council on American-Islamic Relations, ICNA segregates men and women at its events, a practice endorsed in the Farook household.

An attorney for the Farooks said on Friday that the family was “very traditional” and that Tashfeen Malik sat with the women at family events. The attorney also said that men in the family had never seen Malik’s face because she wore a burqa. Malik and Farook married last year. She came to the U.S. last summer on a K-1 fiancé visa. The couple leave behind a six-month old daughter.

ICNA is heavily reliant on the teachings of Abul A’la Maududi, the controversial Islamist founder of Jamaat-e-Islami, a political party operating in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh whose goal is to establish an Islamic state, according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).

As the ADL notes, an article in ICNA’s “The Message” stated that “using the organizational development methodology of Maulana Mawdudi and the Jamaat Al-Islami of Pakistan, which lays special emphasis on spiritual development, ICNA has developed a strong foundation.”

Maududi “is a jihadi ideologue,” according to the ADL. “He has written that ‘the nation of Jews will be exterminated’ in the end of days.”

In one of his numerous books, Maududi wrote that devout Muslims “would be under an obligation to do their utmost to dislodge [non-Muslims] from political power and to make them live in subservience to the Islamic way of life.”

Maududi’s Islamic supremacy and Jamaat-e-Islami’s alleged involvement in genocide against unarmed Bengalis in 1971 led the Bengali government to outlaw Maududi’s books in 2010.

Though ICNA appears to have distanced itself from Maududi and Jamaat-e-Islami — at least in public — the group still espouses Islamic supremacism with a goal of establishing Islam across the world.

A 2010 handbook given to members of ICNA’s sisters’ wing touts “a united Islamic state, governed by an elected khalifah (caliph) in accordance with the laws of shari’ah (sharia).”

The handbook also states that “leadership of al-Jama’ah (or an Islamic state) has the authority to enforce Sharia’s political, educational, criminal Justice System etc that is beyond the jurisdiction of a jama’ah.”

And according to the Clarion Project, another group which tracks organizations with potential terror ties, ICNA’s literature is full of positive references and citations of Muslim Brotherhood

In one training guide obtained by the Clarion Project, ICNA favorably quoted Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna and Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian leader of the Muslim Brotherhood whose writings had influence on al-Qaeda and its leader, Osama bin Laden.

For its part, ICNA has said it is “appalled” by Wednesday’s attacks.


(RELATED: Syed Farook’s Co-Worker Says Citizens ‘Should Be Armed’ [VIDEO])

“As the investigations are still ongoing, we remind the American Muslim community to be extra vigilant and to immediately report any suspicious activity to the law enforcement agencies,” the group said in a statement.

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Mon 12/07/15 07:29 AM
The New York Times
Treason Against The United States.

Published: January 25, 1861

By Section 110 of Article III. of the Constitution of the United States, it is declared that:

Treason Against the United States. - NYTimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/1861/01/25/news/treason-against-the-united-states.html?pagewanted=all/

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