Ohhh...why do you SabbathThy with such a steely knife... ..
that just hurts.. you!!. know I am anything but normal..

Perhaps you should learn to survive before you get married then maybe you would appreciate them more and think twice.
Second its not about men get over yourself!
In my eyes the kids are more important in a divorce.

''independent" that breeds divorce isnt the healthy and desired type

I agree with the old days. Many didn't see a way out. Even if one wanted to fix it, the other might not. My grandmother stayed with an abusive drunk because that was how she was raised. We know better now. Or cheating, women may have looked the other way (my other grandmother who eventually divorced) My grandmothers didn't have jobs. Their job was to take care of the house and kids. These days...yes if you can get help great...but it takes two to tango

Good question Uche

In the olden days it was difficult to get divorced. There had to be a reason such as abuse, drinking, adultery etc.

Then I think it was the 70's (although don't quote me) that the rules changed and you didn't need a real excuse to divorce, you could simply say you had irretrievable differences or that the marriage had broken down and you got your divorce.

This meant that the stigma that used to be associated with divorce decreased and so it became more acceptable and less embarrassing.

I also think some people are not willing to try and work it out because its easier to divorce so this adds to the snowball effect.

Not sure if people have changed for better or for worse since I was a kid but the wedding vows don't seem to hold the same weight anymore.

From what i have seen, it seems people base their marriage on sex nowadays. Sex plays a big part of it. Back then, it was more about family and sacrifice and compromise. Back then people tried harder to save their marraige. I have seen several couples end their marriage after just two or three years.. I have never been married and do not plan on it till i know its right.

Meh...

Life expectancies were alot shorter.
So... it just seemed like marriages lasted for an even longer eternity.

A very good point, Elizabeth I have seen it too.

I believe (as in , my opinion)

stigma serves great social purpose

divorce was more stigmatized, as was casual sex, as was making babies outside of wedlock

the upside was people weren't as quick to jump into marriages, the downside was that some people stayed in terribly abusive relationships rather than leave,,,,

I agree with this ^^^


In addition, more peoples attended church here in the UK than do today, moral standards and respect were higher back then in my opinion, and the second World War which had strengthened and united people through suffering and hard times had only ended in 1945.

...........because women are d cause of oft divorce

How do you figure? If both parties do something wrong, then they are both responsible for the break up of the marriage. If one partner cheats, then that partner is responsible. Saying one gender is the cause of divorce is sexist and has no argument.

it dont start out as hate
or they wouldnt get married
at least i dont know of any one that says " hey i hate you , lets get married"

olden days well
women didnt have equal rights
as well as they where really looked down a pone if they where divorced
(it must have been a good reason if her man left her and divorced her )
as well as its not like now a days where they split the money stuff up , most all times the woman was left with nothing and the man got it all
as well as i think ladys look at them selfs better now then they did them , back then they where not someone unless they had a man
now is a lot different , they can be someone with out a man (before you all ladys attack me for that let me explain , ladys can get better jobs , loans, and are exceptibal to be a lady single unlike back then )
back then you wouldnt see females doing the things they do now
as well as back then most where stay at home moms and no one wanted to hire a stay at home mom cause she had no job skill's (witch i all ways thought was bullsh$% , most stay at home moms work harder then people do at work )
and i agree with a lot of the other posters as well
most people think sex is the key
yeah well , best wishes on that ... cause it ain't
it runs a lot deeper then just heavy breathing and sweaty times

i am still looking for what my nanny and bummpa (grandparents on my mothers side) had .... even though they wanted to kill each other a lot of the times ...they where together young and stayed together till they died

Because there was less choice back then. They were less likely to be tempted to have affairs. Technology makes the chances of affairs way easier. It's up to the people themselves whether they really want to get themselves into trouble. I just have to laugh when they wonder why their ex left them. Well no-one is so irresistible that their exempt from having someone with enough common sense to know when to leave.

Simple really. Falling in love isn't the problem. See, love requires a lot more work (yes people....I said it....work) than most are willing to give. Way back when couples worked hard at it because they were molded that way. Sure, divorces happened back then. But not like they do now. For some stupid damn reason people today feel that instant gratification comes without a price. You fall for someone and you want to be with that person, and the first few months to a year goes great with ease (maybe some arguments here and there but that is healthy....makeup sex man....makeup sex). But then the work begins, and that is when most want to just either toss away the relationship or they simple want to stay unhappy and cheat on one another (the latter is vast becoming a norm these days). My belief is we have moved away from a society that works for what they want to a society that feels they deserve it. You do not deserve love, except from your momma and daddy. You should feel honored, and treat love like it is the gift that it truly is. You don't deserve it simply because you think you do. If a woman gives you her heart then you need to treat it as delicately as it is (and vice versa). Of course things could not work out, but if that happens and you have truly tried to make it work then perhaps it wasn't meant to be. We need to get away from this entitlement feeling we have. But hey....this is just my opinion.

Well said Goofball
Thanks