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johnn1111 partial statement >>>
doesn't matter what your constitution says Sojourning_Soul stated >>>
It's statements like this that have caused the problems we face today. You liberals believe it is best to control than to create or prosper, you stifle competition and the creative, competitive spirit that produces progress, and kill the desire and ability of people to think, tend, and act for themselves And yet the Nations Mental Health funding took it's biggest hits and closed so many facilities during Republican Ronnie Reagan's era; you remember...back when he was all busy 'POKEN THAT STICK' into Russia while crying about those 'COMMIE'S' and increased the DOD budget accordingly! Ya, I think you forgot - how the GOP will slice & dice funding for the needy and our veterans in order to keep pounding $$$ down into the 'RAT HOLE' that is the DOD! |
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And yet the Nations Mental Health funding
took it's biggest hits and closed so many facilities during Republican Ronnie Reagan's era; you remember...back when he was all busy 'POKEN THAT STICK' into Russia while crying about those 'COMMIE'S' and increased the DOD budget accordingly! Ya, I think you forgot - how the GOP will slice & dice funding for the needy and our veterans in order to keep pounding $$$ down into the 'RAT HOLE' that is the DOD! ^^^^^^^^ Translation- http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLrNpBHr8hZcUUa-L91GEKe1KJqETzhAZa&v=ss2hULhXf04&itct=CAsQxjQiEwib47-fhp3GAhXGJH4KHeIUAEoyCnBscHBfdmlkZW9aJFZMUExyTnBCSHI4aFpjVVVhLUw5MUdFS2UxS0pxRVR6aEFaYQ%3D%3D&hl=en&gl=US&client=mv-google And JOHNN111, While I appreciate your interest in our firearms laws.. But since you made a comment.....Obama doesnt give 2 $hits about anything other then furthering his, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and Saul Alinsky's agenda. Lets look at his exact statement..... "" We don' t have all the facts , but we do know that once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hand on a gun." .....made way less than 24 hrs after the incident happened. I highlight....."We don't have all the facts..... He is interested in nothing but his agenda. |
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tomato86
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68we3aP_UNE
one of the ladies who was supposedly killed, this is an interview with her kids, neither of them seem sad at all despite losing their mother 24 hours earlier. 2 of them even smirking while they are being interviewed. now if you just lost your mom 24 hours earlier, why wouldnt you be visibly upset, and be smirking while you are being interviewed. im sure 99% of you will call me crazy, but this whole shooting just doesnt add up for some reason. do some research on "crisis actors", and you will see what i mean. also another funny thing about this roof character. notice anything funny about the jacket? here is the original photo the media posted. now, im sure you see some difference in those 2 pictures right? theres a website called Fotoforensics.com, from theyre analysis of the 2 pictures, seems like the 1 with the obama logo is the real picture, and the one with the other flags has been edited and faked. http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=bba3e2dff5a66fef760b998e37e9d5f12ae33db0.158044 maybe its just me, but something about this whole story just doesnt add up. |
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Conrad_73
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Fri 06/19/15 11:58 PM
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Uh no, they're acknowledging the ridiculous loss of life that once again divides the country, this should not be happening, and a small percentage of you should not own weapons, doesn't matter what your constitution says, you're all hostages in a game of chance because of it, hoping your number doesn't come up early by some mental case that was given a tool to kill by his just as pucked up "dad" yep,a real Hero,killing People in a Gunfree-Zone! Suppose he tried that in a Station-House! BTW,I am sure you heard of that Chinese Fellow who killed 25 People with a big Knife in that Railroad-Station! Proof it isn't the Guns! When People are disarmed,it really doesn't matter what Weapon the Perpetrator employs to get his Rocks off! |
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SUSPECT has been Identified, Manhunt continues http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/18/police-respond-to-shooting-at-sc-church/ THEY CAUGHT HIM!!! He's a nut job just like the movie theater shooter in Colorado. Just sentence his a$$ to death already. |
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Sojourning_Soul
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johnn1111 partial statement >>>
doesn't matter what your constitution says Sojourning_Soul stated >>>
It's statements like this that have caused the problems we face today. You liberals believe it is best to control than to create or prosper, you stifle competition and the creative, competitive spirit that produces progress, and kill the desire and ability of people to think, tend, and act for themselves And yet the Nations Mental Health funding took it's biggest hits and closed so many facilities during Republican Ronnie Reagan's era; you remember...back when he was all busy 'POKEN THAT STICK' into Russia while crying about those 'COMMIE'S' and increased the DOD budget accordingly! Ya, I think you forgot - how the GOP will slice & dice funding for the needy and our veterans in order to keep pounding $$$ down into the 'RAT HOLE' that is the DOD! Reagan was no better when it came to policy, but he screwed you with respect and almost made it feel good. Also, even after Reagan himself was shot we never had to worry about our 2nd amendment rights being attacked as a result. Charlie Schummer and the liberals tried during Reagan's watch but the Brady Bill was not signed into law until Slick Willie took office (1994) DC and the presidency has been a joke a very long time. Basically since the 1900's, but it really took a turn for the worse in 1913 with the passage of the fed reserve act and the banker take-over, but the worst decision was the Citizens United act making corporations people and putting money in politics..... the takeover of the electoral system was then complete. Money became power rather than privilege, the private banks and corporations took over, and the people lost their freedom of choice Oblowme actually spoke out against citizens united as a Repulsicon takeover of the electoral system but the Demoncraps and their unions have far outspent them in election cycles since the SCOTUS decision |
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johnn1111 partial statement >>>
doesn't matter what your constitution says Sojourning_Soul stated >>>
It's statements like this that have caused the problems we face today. You liberals believe it is best to control than to create or prosper, you stifle competition and the creative, competitive spirit that produces progress, and kill the desire and ability of people to think, tend, and act for themselves And yet the Nations Mental Health funding took it's biggest hits and closed so many facilities during Republican Ronnie Reagan's era; you remember...back when he was all busy 'POKEN THAT STICK' into Russia while crying about those 'COMMIE'S' and increased the DOD budget accordingly! Ya, I think you forgot - how the GOP will slice & dice funding for the needy and our veterans in order to keep pounding $$$ down into the 'RAT HOLE' that is the DOD! Reagan was no better when it came to policy, but he screwed you with respect and almost made it feel good. Also, even after Reagan himself was shot we never had to worry about our 2nd amendment rights being attacked as a result, tho Charlie Schummer and the liberals tried during Reagan's watch the Brady Bill was not signed into law until Slick Willie took office (1994) DC and the presidency has been a joke a very long time. Basically since the 1900's, but it really took a turn for the worse in 1913 with the passage of the fed reserve act and the banker take-over Reagan actually carried his own Heat after the Assassination-Attempt! |
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johnn1111 partial statement >>>
doesn't matter what your constitution says Sojourning_Soul stated >>>
It's statements like this that have caused the problems we face today. You liberals believe it is best to control than to create or prosper, you stifle competition and the creative, competitive spirit that produces progress, and kill the desire and ability of people to think, tend, and act for themselves And yet the Nations Mental Health funding took it's biggest hits and closed so many facilities during Republican Ronnie Reagan's era; you remember...back when he was all busy 'POKEN THAT STICK' into Russia while crying about those 'COMMIE'S' and increased the DOD budget accordingly! Ya, I think you forgot - how the GOP will slice & dice funding for the needy and our veterans in order to keep pounding $$$ down into the 'RAT HOLE' that is the DOD! Reagan was no better when it came to policy, but he screwed you with respect and almost made it feel good. Also, even after Reagan himself was shot we never had to worry about our 2nd amendment rights being attacked as a result, tho Charlie Schummer and the liberals tried during Reagan's watch the Brady Bill was not signed into law until Slick Willie took office (1994) DC and the presidency has been a joke a very long time. Basically since the 1900's, but it really took a turn for the worse in 1913 with the passage of the fed reserve act and the banker take-over Reagan actually carried his own Heat after the Assassination-Attempt! ------------------------------------------------------ Hush now.. we are supposed to PRETEND that we don't know that the Political, Hollywood, Music Industry, Wallstreet, Banker, Elite. DEMI Gods are packing or paying someone else to... because they are more important. |
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2OLD2MESSAROUND
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Conrad_ stated >>>
Reagan actually carried his own Heat after the Assassination-Attempt! OHHHH, PLEEEEASE...don't push that mental image of his 'gun-toten weapon on his person'...overly hyped up story line; when the TRUTH was >>> While Meltzer didn'��t say when Reagan started carrying, Shirley confirmed the practice began after Reagan was shot and nearly killed by John Hinckley Jr. on March 30, 1981. '��After he recovered, he said, I think in his diary, '��Getting shot hurts,'�� Shirley said. After that, he resolved to have his own protection in addition to that offered by the Secret Service. The gun, which Shirley says was likely a .38-caliber revolver, was kept in Reagan'��s personal briefcase, which he routinely carried with him onto Air Force One and Marine One. He said that Nancy Reagan wasn'��t thrilled and the Secret Service felt similarly, but Reagan insisted. '��Who'��s going to say no to the President?'�� he said. Reagan carried the gun after his presidency as well, Shirley said, and had it until it was confiscated by Colo a year or two after his 1994 Alzheimer'��s diagnosis, due to the president'��s diminishing capacity. What'��s happened to the presidential firearm in in 20 years since? Sadly, Shirley says he doesn'��t know, and apparently nobody else does either. http://freedomforce.com/4364/biographer-president-ronald-reagan-carried-concealed-handgun-following-assassination-attempt/ Lordy - Lordy...and women are harped on about being 'SILLY GOSSIP SPREADERS'... What was he going to so - throw the briefcase at the next shooter??? LMAO |
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"You Liberals"
Whatever And JOHNN111, While I appreciate your interest in our firearms laws.. But since you made a comment.....Obama doesnt give 2 $hits about anything other then furthering his, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and Saul Alinsky's agenda. Lets look at his exact statement.....
Say what? It's like this see, we're like a upper level condo looking down on a very dangerous gun party... Where a bunch of gun toting yahoos think they're safer with weapons. The world IS NOT safer with this mindset, get it? The agenda is saving innocent lives from mentally handicapped, hard drug induced.... PARANOIA!!!! I have no interest in your gun laws, they are outdated and no longer compatible with a peaceful nation, they don't account for the spiraling production and consumption of hardcore designer drugs, my agenda is saving lives, what's yours? You all are starting to think these needless deaths are "normal"... You see it reading some comments on here, Obama is right, IT AIN'T FREEKIN NORMAL!!! Your "police state" issues will not improve if your streets are unsafe. |
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"You Liberals"
Whatever And JOHNN111, While I appreciate your interest in our firearms laws, it really doesnt matter since youre not a U.S. citizen. But since you made a comment.....Obama doesnt give 2 $hits about anything other then furthering his, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and Saul Alinsky's agenda. Lets look at his exact statement.....
Say what? It's like this see, we're like a upper level condo looking down on a very dangerous gun party... Where a bunch of gun toting yahoos think they're safer with weapons. The world IS NOT safer with this mindset, get it? The agenda is saving innocent lives from mentally handicapped, hard drug induced.... PARANOIA!!!! I have no interest in your gun laws, they are outdated and no longer compatible with a peaceful nation, they don't account for the spiraling production and consumption of hardcore designer drugs, my agenda is saving lives, what's yours? You all are starting to think these needless deaths are "normal"... You see it reading some comments on here, Obama is right, IT AIN'T FREEKIN NORMAL!!! Your "police state" issues will not improve if your streets are unsafe. Lean out a little further from your balcony and take a look at the party going on a floor down from us. Who needs gun toting yahoos.. |
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oh no we don't need no gun control
same thing I say every time this happens |
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I have no interest in your gun laws, Your posts about them say different
The world
We're not talking about the world, pay attention. Violent crime has been declining in the U.S. for quite awhile now.
IS NOT safer with this mindset, Your "police state"
Hey genius, you DO realize that most gun crimes are committed by people ALREADY forbidden from carrying a firearm, right? It could be because theyre a convicted felon, theyre underage, or, carrying a weapon in a gun free zone, like the Charleston shooter did. But hey, lets make MORE gun laws that criminals can break, good Lord smh.
issues will not improve if your streets are unsafe. The agenda is saving innocent lives
Ok, lets talk about that.... "" Oct. 1, 1997 Luke Woodham fatally stabbed and bludgeoned his mother and went on to kill two students and injure seven others at his high school. Woodham was stopped by Assistant Principal Joel Myrick, a U.S. Army Reserve commander, who detained Woodham by using a .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol he kept in his truck, until authorities could show up. Myrick stopped Woodham from going across the street to the middle school. 2. April 24, 1998 Andrew Wurst showed up to his middle school dance with his .25-caliber pistol. He fired it, killing a teacher, wounding a second one, and injuring two students. The 14-year- old's shoot-out lasted about 20 minutes. It was ended when James Strand, the owner of the banquet hall the dance was happening in, confronted Wurst with his personal shotgun. He ordered Wurst to drop his weapon and held the teenager in place for 11 minutes before finally getting him to drop the weapon and lie on the ground, and then searched him for other weapons. 3. Jan. 16, 2002 A 43-year-old Nigerian former student named Peter Odighizuwa arrived on campus with a handgun. There are different variations of the story, but according to eyewitness accounts, law students Tracy Bridges, a county sheriff's deputy, and Mikael Gross, a police officer, ran to their cars after hearing gunshots and grabbed personally owned firearms. They approached Odighizuwa, ordering him to drop his firearm; he did and was subdued by unarmed students. Three people were killed and three others were wounded. 4. Dec. 9, 2007 A former police officer from Minnesota named Jeanne Assam was at church when a 24- year-old gunman named Matthew Murray began firing at parishioners in the parking lot. Murray claimed two victims before Assam opened fire on him with her personally owned concealed weapon. After receiving multiple hits from Assam, Murray then shot himself. 5. Feb. 12, 2007 Sulejman Talović killed five people and wounded four others in 2007 when he began firing in a public square in Salt Lake City, Utah. He carried a shotgun and a backpack of ammunition. He was eventually stopped in a shoot-out involving Salt Lake City Police Department SWAT that took place in a Pottery Barn Kids. He was cornered, however, by off-duty police officer Kenneth Hammond, who held him in position before authorities could arrive. Hammond ran on scene after hearing gunshots fire out while having an early Valentine's Day dinner with his pregnant wife at a local restaurant. 6. July 19, 2009 The details are murky but according to reports, a man entered a Golden Market in Virginia in 2009 and began firing a gun. He shot and wounded the clerk and then began firing at patrons inside. He ran out of ammo and was attempting to reload when he was shot, wounded, and then subdued by a permit holder who happened to be in the store. 7. May 27, 2010 Off-duty police officer Donald J. Moore stopped Abraham Dickan, a 79-year-old man who decided to shoot up an AT&T store in New York Mills, New York. Moore was in the store when Dickan entered brandishing a .357 magnum and a hit list of employees he planned to kill in his pocket. Moore heard Dickan's gun go off, drew his own personal weapon, and killed Dickan on scene. One AT&T employee was injured in the shooting. 8. Dec. 11, 2012 Two people were killed and a third was seriously wounded in Clackamas County, Oregon, when Jacob Roberts opened fire in a local shopping mall. Nick Meli, a shopper in the mall, drew a personally owned firearm on Roberts, who then retreated. Meli did not fire his weapon, for fear of striking bystanders. 9. Dec. 16, 2012 In December of last year, gunfire broke out in a San Antonio movie theater. Moviegoers rushed to exits and ducked for cover as a lone gunman, Jesus Manuel Garcia, began shooting in a China Garden that spilled over into an attached movie complex. The San Antonio Police Department were fired at by the gunman and had to evacuate and seal off the complex. The gunman was eventually shot and struck by an off-duty police officer, Lisa Castellano, who was working at the theater that night."" http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.ja98x6O6m 10. Charleston, SC A gunman, Dylann Roof, pulled a pistol on a bible study class at an historic church. The church's pastor pulled his own licensed concealed carry weapon and shot Roof dead before anyone else was injured. *If only* Now go back to Canada and get off our lawn. |
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Tomato posted >>>
notice anything funny about the jacket? here is the original photo the media posted. now, im sure you see some difference in those 2 pictures right? theres a website called Fotoforensics.com, from theyre analysis of the 2 pictures, seems like the 1 with the obama logo is the real picture, and the one with the other flags has been edited and faked. http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=bba3e2dff5a66fef760b998e37e9d5f12ae33db0.158044 maybe its just me, but something about this whole story just doesnt add up. I noticed that image and the color enhanced patches on the left side of his jacket right away; but as with everything that is photo cropped/hyped up and just out right lies that keep getting spread around via our FB/Myspace/Internet/twitter/snapchat etc., etc., --- rarely do people care about the TRUTH! Refreshing to see that you do...TY; you restored my faith in our young humans! |
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2OLD2MESSAROUND
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RebelArcher stated >>>
Now go back to Canada and get off our lawn. WOW...that's being a REAL UGLY AMERICAN - IMHO could you have at least soften it up with a 'SMILEY FACE' LOL or just JOKING! Good Grief... SMH |
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guess the Louse didn't have a Gun,in Firearms-controlled Europe!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33211479 Fatal car crash on crowd in Austrian city of Graz 20 June 2015 From the section Europe At least three people are dead and dozens injured after a man drove his car into crowds in a square in Austria's second largest city of Graz. The driver has been arrested, though police say there were no indications the attack was motivated by terrorism. Part of the city was sealed off, with large numbers of ambulances and helicopters sent to the scene. The square in Graz was hosting an event related to the Austrian Formula 1 Grand Prix, which is being held nearby. The regional governor confirmed that three people had died and 34 were injured, some seriously. Hermann Schuetzenhoefer told reporters that the suspect was a 26-year-old man who was "mentally unbalanced". "There is no explanation, there is no excuse," he added. Austrian Chancellor Werner Faymann also said he was deeply shocked by the incident. Sixty ambulances and four helicopters were sent to the scene. Eyewitness Helmut Reinisch told the BBC he saw bodies lying on the ground "covered in blood," including a young boy. He added that the car was travelling at least 100 km/h: "It was really horrible, everybody was shocked." The city's mayor, Siegfried Nagl, witnessed the incident. "The driver deliberately drove into pedestrians. I myself saw a woman being run over," he told Kleine Zeitung newspaper. Another witness described a lucky escape. "I was having cappuccino on the main square when people started screaming and then there was the loud noise coming from a car engine. I leapt to safety in a nearby arcade." The Austrian Grand Prix takes place this weekend in Spielberg, and it is thought that many of the city's emergency services had been deployed there. The mayor has cancelled all city events in Graz and ordered black flags of mourning to be raised above municipal buildings, AP reports. There are unconfirmed reports that after crashing the man left the vehicle and attacked people with a knife. |
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I have just read the news in which Mr Obama states that racism remains a blight on society.
Well Mr President you need to choose your words more carefully. Your very words will do nothing but add to racial tensions and indeed will ingrain racism even deeper into society. This was not a racist attack, racism was the excuse for some vile thug to murder innocent people. How can we even begin to make a better world when our so called leaders refuse to see that society as a whole needs to change. We make toy guns for children to play with for gods sake. We make constant excuses for violent men yet we hardly ever just throw the key away. The bankers brought the world to its knees and thousands lost their homes and jobs, yet the bank bosses were given what amounts to a slap on the wrist. Inaction breeds contempt. The answer starts with education, what kind of society and schools do we have that teaches ambition is more important than self-abnegation. Our leaders give these rip roaring speeches against violence when they in actual fact, invite a lot of it. We need to teach that giving is better than receiving. We need to teach that your number one goal in life should be to help others, not help yourself. I learned more in school about Hitler than I did about the Dalai Lama and that simply can't be right. |
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funkyfranky stated >>>
I have just read the news in which Mr Obama states that racism remains a blight on society. Well Mr President you need to choose your words more carefully. Your very words will do nothing but add to racial tensions and indeed will ingrain racism even deeper into society. This was not a racist attack, racism was the excuse for some vile thug to murder innocent people. How can we even begin to make a better world when our so called leaders refuse to see that society as a whole needs to change. We make toy guns for children to play with for gods sake. We make constant excuses for violent men yet we hardly ever just throw the key away. The bankers brought the world to its knees and thousands lost their homes and jobs, yet the bank bosses were given what amounts to a slap on the wrist. Inaction breeds contempt. The answer starts with education, what kind of society and schools do we have that teaches ambition is more important than self-abnegation. Our leaders give these rip roaring speeches against violence when they in actual fact, invite a lot of it. We need to teach that giving is better than receiving. We need to teach that your number one goal in life should be to help others, not help yourself. I learned more in school about Hitler than I did about the Dalai Lama and that simply can't be right. Seriously - you've missed all the things that Dylann Roof has stated - his RACIAL DISCUSSION's with his childhood friend - his ugly thought process about 'keeping the races separated'... RIGHT~~~ Alrighty then!!! |
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funkyfranky stated >>>
I have just read the news in which Mr Obama states that racism remains a blight on society. Well Mr President you need to choose your words more carefully. Your very words will do nothing but add to racial tensions and indeed will ingrain racism even deeper into society. This was not a racist attack, racism was the excuse for some vile thug to murder innocent people. How can we even begin to make a better world when our so called leaders refuse to see that society as a whole needs to change. We make toy guns for children to play with for gods sake. We make constant excuses for violent men yet we hardly ever just throw the key away. The bankers brought the world to its knees and thousands lost their homes and jobs, yet the bank bosses were given what amounts to a slap on the wrist. Inaction breeds contempt. The answer starts with education, what kind of society and schools do we have that teaches ambition is more important than self-abnegation. Our leaders give these rip roaring speeches against violence when they in actual fact, invite a lot of it. We need to teach that giving is better than receiving. We need to teach that your number one goal in life should be to help others, not help yourself. I learned more in school about Hitler than I did about the Dalai Lama and that simply can't be right. Seriously - you've missed all the things that Dylann Roof has stated - his RACIAL DISCUSSION's with his childhood friend - his ugly thought process about 'keeping the races separated'... RIGHT~~~ Alrighty then!!! No I didn't see that, but I saw one of his black friends stating that he never mentioned race to him once. Regardless, society needs to change which was the point of my post. |
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