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"Thank" uncle Joe for Genocide and mass murder? God have mercy on these reprobate west!!! Thankfully, not all in the West are reprobates, most are good honest people who don't want the actions taken by our leaders to solve international crisis, just as not all islamic people want death and destruction for all the people in the west. Most just want to live in peace and safely. The people here who say with easy about nukes and slaughter in islamic nations are just scared and insecure, don't feed their fear. They feel they can get way with saying such things because they feel they (their country) is powerfull enough to take anyone out if they do or say anything they don't agree with (like the school bully in the playground) Isis members number a few thousand people (at most), amongst millions of people who do not think or feel or agree with what Isis are doing, but feel, and actually experience then effects the actions taken by the west to "help" them are causing more pain and suffering and death. FOR ALL< ON ALL SIDES. People run their mouths when they sit in a cosy home and the bombs are dropping somewhere else. |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. |
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why would the US government want to take out ISIS, after all the US created and funds them. how many times did we "accidentally" air drop supplys to ISIS? they dont want to take them out because of all the profiteers of war, thats why they want to keep fighting and feeding the military industrial complex. So what do you call over 200 young girls missing. What's that saying, people in glass houses. |
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why would the US government want to take out ISIS, after all the US created and funds them. how many times did we "accidentally" air drop supplys to ISIS? they dont want to take them out because of all the profiteers of war, thats why they want to keep fighting and feeding the military industrial complex. So what do you call over 200 young girls missing. What's that saying, people in glass houses. IT IS HEARTBREAKING. But are you saying because 200 girls are missing we should support our govenments no matter what they do? Please give me an expample of how our actions in one of these countries actually helped the people and not just lined the pockets of companies like Halliburton? replaced its so called "tyrant" with one who turned out to be worse for the people, but who ened up doing the bidding of WESTERN international corps??? |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... |
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why would the US government want to take out ISIS, after all the US created and funds them. how many times did we "accidentally" air drop supplys to ISIS? they dont want to take them out because of all the profiteers of war, thats why they want to keep fighting and feeding the military industrial complex. So what do you call over 200 young girls missing. What's that saying, people in glass houses. IT IS HEARTBREAKING. But are you saying because 200 girls are missing we should support our govenments no matter what they do? Please give me an expample of how our actions in one of these countries actually helped the people and not just lined the pockets of companies like Halliburton? replaced its so called "tyrant" with one who turned out to be worse for the people, but who ened up doing the bidding of WESTERN international corps??? I'm not saying anything about governments. You need to read my post again. People in glass houses. What I'm saying is those who choose to criticize other governments should look at their own first. By the way I'm British, not American. If however you want my opinion on Governments I'd say most of them are liars and dishonest, including my own. |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... I am not comparing anything sir. I am stating that when you are threatened with being bombed/killed, it does not matter how many before or after are killed, its your life. could you still not hate the ones who might kill you for a cause? I am not a memeber of these islamic, japan, African nations, They do not represent ME. OUR GOVENMENT DOES. I am sure ISIS claims that the murder they do is collateral damage too. Nukes, carpet bombs, agent orange ... on and on IS SYSTEMATIC MURDER my friend. B U T.... IF you want to play a numbers game of how many we killed to how many they killed, you've already lost, cos well killed millions more than any other nation on the planet with our bombs/ |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. actually only the Top-Nazis got those elaborate hearings! The small Fry was shot,usually right in the Field,especially if they belonged to the Einsatz-Gruppen! Execution without much ado! |
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JaUkNz
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... I am not comparing anything sir. I am stating that when you are threatened with being bombed/killed, it does not matter how many before or after are killed, its your life. could you still not hate the ones who might kill you for a cause? I am not a memeber of these islamic, japan, African nations, They do not represent ME. OUR GOVENMENT DOES. I am sure ISIS claims that the murder they do is collateral damage too. Nukes, carpet bombs, agent orange ... on and on... IS SYSTEMATIC MURDER my friend. 10 to 30 mill might have dies in all the fighting but you are saying that japan kill that number of their own? OK... so we thought, WE'll help those poor people and droped 2 nukes on them. Those ungreatful yellow people, how dare they have an issue with us after we helped them to freedom by droping TWO nuke on them??? I just do not see how people assuming that action of that sort is helpful to any side, or the planet |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... I am not comparing anything sir. I am stating that when you are threatened with being bombed/killed, it does not matter how many before or after are killed, its your life. could you still not hate the ones who might kill you for a cause? I am not a memeber of these islamic, japan, African nations, They do not represent ME. OUR GOVENMENT DOES. I am sure ISIS claims that the murder they do is collateral damage too. Nukes, carpet bombs, agent orange ... on and on IS SYSTEMATIC MURDER my friend. B U T.... IF you want to play a numbers game of how many we killed to how many they killed, you've already lost, cos well killed millions more than any other nation on the planet with our bombs/ Really... I have no idea what country you are from or referring to, but I can assure you that the US has killed far less than the British French Russians or Germans. So maybe you ought to check that numbers game again. Systematic murder is done by a planned method. Carpet bombing cities when the goals are to hit manufacturing targets is not systematic murder of civilians. Hiroshima was picked for 3 reasons. It was a port... It was a large industrial center... A Japanese military command headquarters was there. There was no plan to drop an atomic bomb on a large civilian population. There were much bigger cities for that. I can keep going if you wish, but I think I made it clear that you are wrong again.. |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... I am not comparing anything sir. I am stating that when you are threatened with being bombed/killed, it does not matter how many before or after are killed, its your life. could you still not hate the ones who might kill you for a cause? I am not a memeber of these islamic, japan, African nations, They do not represent ME. OUR GOVENMENT DOES. I am sure ISIS claims that the murder they do is collateral damage too. Nukes, carpet bombs, agent orange ... on and on IS SYSTEMATIC MURDER my friend. B U T.... IF you want to play a numbers game of how many we killed to how many they killed, you've already lost, cos well killed millions more than any other nation on the planet with our bombs/ Really... I have no idea what country you are from or referring to, but I can assure you that the US has killed far less than the British French Russians or Germans. So maybe you ought to check that numbers game again. Systematic murder is done by a planned method. Carpet bombing cities when the goals are to hit manufacturing targets is not systematic murder of civilians. Hiroshima was picked for 3 reasons. It was a port... It was a large industrial center... A Japanese military command headquarters was there. There was no plan to drop an atomic bomb on a large civilian population. There were much bigger cities for that. I can keep going if you wish, but I think I made it clear that you are wrong again.. I am not playing a game of I am right or you are wrong. I understand what you say about larger cities and that military stuff was there. SO WHAT? DROPING A NUKE ANYWHERE IS WRONG. You can explain it away any way you like. IT IS STILL WRONG. They could have used traditional bombs on these places if that was the aim. NUKES ARE WRONG...PERIOD. I am British, born and bread, but I AM FIRST, a humanbeing who can think and feel what these actions mean in REAL terms. If some nut tyrant targetted a small city in US with a nuke just because it has military there would that be ok to you then??? I believe you would say NO, and I agree with you there. So, please tell me WHY it would be wrong for some tyrant to drop a nuke on west, but not for us to drop one on another nation? (as long as it's a nation of non-westeners I guess. At least have the guts to admit that would be the reason it would be ok to you) You are the one trying to play a numbers game, my friend, by saying it was justified because japan killed 10 to 30 mill of its own. My point is that using Nukes THEN, OR IN THE FURTURE will never ever be a justified action. |
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why would the US government want to take out ISIS, after all the US created and funds them. how many times did we "accidentally" air drop supplys to ISIS? they dont want to take them out because of all the profiteers of war, thats why they want to keep fighting and feeding the military industrial complex. So what do you call over 200 young girls missing. What's that saying, people in glass houses. |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... |
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Dandy. How? U.S. boots on the ground? You want ANOTHER U.S. ground war in the Middle East? Start dropping nukes now? The United States of America is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons in War. We get a pass on the WWII thing, because ... you know: - it was a World War, & - we were the only nation that had them. If we as indifferent to nuking diaper-heads as we were about nuking little yellow people; what do you think that will do to our standing in this globalizing world? The nukes were dropped on Japan to end the war and actually to save more lives had the war continued(which it would have). Not just being indifferent. The nukes (WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) were not droped to save more lives, if you research the historical information now released, you can see clearly that Japan was on the verge of losing and surrender. The nukes were droped because US wanted a reason to test their bomb in real life. REMEMBER : TWO, and I repeat 2 NUKE BOMBS were droped. One would have had the same impact of ending the war is that was the aim, but dropping those damn WMD put the world on this course we now fear. How is it that so many people speak so easerly about nuking other countries??? AND MORE INSANE, pre-emptively. So if another country feels US/West MIGHT nuke them would you say "Oh well they felt threatened so its OK for us to be nuked?? In 1991 I watch on T.V. those bombs fall on cities in middle east, in what was described by the US as wanting to create "SHOCK and AWE" this action was to "help the people of that country be free" Hummm, well if some one suggested my country was bombed like that, killing hundreads of thousand times more people that the bad guys they were trying to free the people from, I think I would not be pleased. CRAZY< CRAZY< CRAZY. Yes, Japan was losing the war but vowed to fight to the last man standing. There were killings and suicides every day. Over 1,000 suicides a day actually from Bonzai Cliff done by basic Japanese citizens under orders from the Emperor and the millions that would have died by fighting. The second bomb proved serious and that brought Japan to the negotiating table immediately. Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep with ease, while the poor souls who are still suffering from those nukes continue to have deformed babies. I lived in London all through the 1980's and 90's when the IRA was planting bombs on trains and places all over London. Every day going to work I knew a bomb could kill me. They bombed hotel that killed members of the British govenment AND their families, as well as many ordinary people. They used kiddnapped, torture and all sorts of terrible ways to get themselves heard on the world stage. I supported IRA on principle, but hated the form of action they took. NO ONE from USA or EUROPE EVER said or even suggested we should bomb them. WHY?? because they were European and the outcry would have crushed the govenment. Eventually the British Govenment did start talking to IRA and addressed their claims for self rule and what do you think happened?? within a few years, peace. There is no justification for what IRA did, those people are dead and their families lives were destroyed. The peace can't change that, BUT our govenment did not stoop to the level of the IRA's action (as far as I know) as we seem to be doing in islamic countries. We caught Gin Laden and ignore all international law for criminals of WAR. They just acted like the terrorist and kill him and dumped him in sea? how is that civil. how is that demonstrating to the world of tyranical leaders that WE a the democratic LAW DRIVEN society? Gaddaffi and others, just killed, no public hearing or investigations? BUT everyone says it's ok? even the Natzi's got hearings and the world got to understand, and SEE that our DEMOCRATIC LAWs, international or national, IS what makes us different. I SAY. I do not support these actions. Bad things will continue to happen in our name, when good people like yourselves, justify, ignore, and BS themselves about the truth of it's effect on humans, our earth and our common humanity. I wish you clairity and hope we will never have to experience the reality of a nuke on our nation, cities, families. This comparison to the IRA is just absurd.. The Japanese murdered anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000 civilians in Nanking alone. Not to mention what they did everywhere else they went. The estimates are between 3,000,000 and 10,000,000 million civilians murdered. MURDERED.... Not collateral damage... SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED.. Keep defending that... |
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How many thousands of innocent U.S. citizens have died as a result of these ostensible lies you assert Obama has made? " just because you don't agree with the war, doesn't make bush a criminal... " mm
The Bush administration misrepresented the facts. "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt, that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
U.S. President Bush (the younger) televised address to the U.S. March 17th, 2003 How can there be "no doubt" (Bush's exact words) about something that was not true? And Bush was speaking not merely on behalf of his own administration, but on behalf of multiple allied governments as well. Bush expressed it as a certitude. And it could not possibly have been. "no doubt"... "could not have possibly have been".... Saddam was already using mustard on his people, and who do you sold him (Saddam)the weapons in the first place? and then, where did the governments attention turn to after that? Syria, the border country... you left out the part where Bush says he thinks they were sent to Syria, and then, lo and behold, the leader of Syria needed to be taken out... just mustard gassing the Kurds alone seems to throw everything you said out the window... Saddam's "Project Babylon" was intended to deliver chemical projectiles to Israel and Iran with long range cannons. Ya but the CIA and the Mossad had the weapon designer killed well before it could be completed. |
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Why not get one from the US? Well America, apparently fund them anyway? ? If the President of the United States of America is the enemy of the United States of America: a) What does that say about the electorate that TWICE place him in office? & b) Since Obama started out w/ Bush's mess, and has done quite well cleaning it up; if that's what enemies do; what of the president before him that started out with things in good shape; and leaving them 8 years later, the worst since the great depression? If Obama is bad; doesn't that make Bush criminal ? it tells us the our voting process is rigged and our votes dont mean $h1t, from what i see obama hasnt cleaned up bushs mess, he continued it. they're both criminals and should be hung outside the white house. treasonous ba$tards. Threatening a President and a former President, even making a comment like that is illegal. Don't worry, I happily reported you. |
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" even making a comment like that is illegal. " Ld
You are correct Ld, that making threats against a U.S. president is illegal, a serious crime. BUT!! "they're both criminals and should be hung outside the white house."
That seems more like protected speech to me; it's political comment, not a threat that the poster intends to do so. "treasonous ba$tards."
The truth is a defense against both libel & slander. If Bruce calls a person is a draft-dodging child-molester, and that person really is a draft-dodging child-molester, then Bruce is in the clear. It's only libel / slander if what is said in NOT true. "treasonous ba$tards."
True. The legal definition of treason is Art.3 Sect.3 of the United States Constitution: ARTICLE 3. SECTION 3.
1 Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War Against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. That's two definitions. And Presidents Bush and Obama are conspirators to treason by Constitutional definition; as are all the U.S. presidents that have presided since our Drug War began. And "ba$tards" isn't a word. But treasonous they both most certainly are; subordinate statute to the contrary notwithstanding. Art.6 Sect.2 makes quick work of that argument. |
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Is John Jihad dead?
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Why not get one from the US? Well America, apparently fund them anyway? ? If the President of the United States of America is the enemy of the United States of America: a) What does that say about the electorate that TWICE place him in office? & b) Since Obama started out w/ Bush's mess, and has done quite well cleaning it up; if that's what enemies do; what of the president before him that started out with things in good shape; and leaving them 8 years later, the worst since the great depression? If Obama is bad; doesn't that make Bush criminal ? it tells us the our voting process is rigged and our votes dont mean $h1t, from what i see obama hasnt cleaned up bushs mess, he continued it. they're both criminals and should be hung outside the white house. treasonous ba$tards. Threatening a President and a former President, even making a comment like that is illegal. Don't worry, I happily reported you. Yeah! don't threaten president, BUT you can happily jump on the bandwaggon for the killing aand slaughter of other humans anywhere in the NON-western world. LOL HYPOCRITES . YOU both know, full well, that those comments about bush and obama were facetious: Which Means : treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humour; flippant. It's a sad fact when every flippant or off-the-cuff remark will be reported and policed. SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO WANT TO BRING A NAZI -STATE TO OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND OPINIONS. and I am not being facetious here. I mean it. Things really, really seems to be going that way.... these two (Lpdon) are being very silly. Report me too please! (you proberly already have, as soon as you read two words from me that questioned how our govenments have handled international crisis..... LOL) |
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