if stereotyping is what it takes to get the attention of the younger generations, then you're damn straight i'll do it.
full on.
it would be nice to see them care about something besides themselves...

i throw raves. all over the world as a matter of fact... you konw.. those kids i give a lot of respect to them....
most of the parties are dry, no alcohol, and amazingly enough no drugs...

you'd be surprised how many straight edge kids there are out there... yet, the rest of the little cliques seem to like to give them grief, while they're high, or stoned (and there is a difference), or drunk....

and they're the ones that are helping the majority of people, and propogating love, and acceptance....

and not runniing into schools shooting their school mates...
or racing down a street killing themselves or other people...
or trying to pretend they're something that they're not....

i know this... i've been in this scene for 15 years and i'm throwing parties now, and on every continent and country I've thrown these parties, the ravers never seem to be any problem at all...
non violent, no aggressive... hell even those that take drugs are taking drugs that pretty much just make them love and hug everyone... so really how bad can it be?

oh and none of them? say "yo"

thanks CCP
I think people are ignorant for stereo-typing so many things. I think they need to get to know the individual before they judge the whole group. Its not fair that people do this BUT its been going on forever and as you can tell, it doesn't look like its going to change!!!

Livingbybeats...I think everyone is upset about this tragedy. Its awful that something like this happened BUT anyone could have accidently done this. Who are you to judge and stereo-type everyone? I think you need to get to know the person...not the group of people you so call gangsters

Sorry but i have to say that I agree wtih CCP and unsure...well-said!

My question is this...you throw "raves" and you think its alright for them to do drugs? BUT its not alright for young adults to wear baggy pants and listen to that kind of music...PLEASE!!!

We have a cop in our neighborhood that sits in an unmarked car on the corner gas station parking lot.

He gets a lot of action, people running the 4 way stoplight, excessive acceleration, speeding, loitering.

I talked to him one night and he said that close to 75% of the people he pulls over are hip-hop blaring, cocked hat, low pants wearing young uns'.

He stated that he does this to save their lives from their own reckless behaviors.

We have roadside crosses (not legal, here, by the way) to memoralize the dead young.

I do not want to denegrate any of their memories, but the Darwin Awards website shows how their lives have ended. Two of those crosses are from my next door neighbor's children. The kids partied with their parents alcohol when the parents were away on business.

Needless to say, alcohol, fast cars, and young minds ended two lives that night. The arrests of the parents for delinquency charges, the breakup of that marriage all testify to this:

PARENTS! SUPERVISE YOUR CHILDREN
ask them what they do in their spare time
ask them who their friends are
tell them not to smoke or drink until they are of age
supervise their vehicle use
They are not adults
They cannot make the rational decisions that we make'
They do not have the experience to know 'what' happens when you do 'that'

Above all:

Love your children
Tell them you love them
Show them you love them

Every time I buckle my 7 & 2 year old boys into their car, I kiss them and ask them, "Ready to roll?"
My oldest will say 'let's roll'

I have done this their entire lives.

The other day my 7 year old asked me why I did this every time.

I said, "because it conveys the two most important things about my relationship with you boys. One for me to know, and one for you to know. I ask if you are ready to roll to make sure you are buckled up safely. I kiss you to make sure you know that I love you. Nothing is more important to me with you boys that those two things: That you know I love you, and that I know you are safe"

I was crying as I was driving my boys to grandma and grandpas house that day because I would give my life for them, and they know it.

yeah well i can't stop them from doing the drugs, but you can be damn sure i can control who is there selling the drugs, and how much is avail and so on, which i do...

i don't have a need to regulate because i believe in free will. besides, they're kids like your son that are there doing the drugs, so really it comes back to mom and dad... if life was it is should be, they wouldn't feel the need to do drugs...

so have you checked your son enough to know he doesn't smoke pot? or do any other kinds of drugs? and do you know for a fact that he never did drugs?

its really easy for you to try to deflect it in my direction, except that i am not the kind of person that lives in denial.

i've thrown parties where police officers were the security and even they fully realize that drugs will and can be on the premises, but they also know that there isn't anything that they can really do about it, because the kids will just go off somewhere else and get stoned, and at least them being there will limit the presence of unlikable elements..

police don't have problems with ravers, and back in the day when they use to break up the raves that were illegal they always stated that they were the easiest kids to disperse.

police don't have a lot of use for the hip hop kids either, so it isn't a stereotype any longer... it is a social problem and an epidemic of violence and a mentality that is directly related to the family and to society.

every mother thinks that they are a good mother. Jeffery Dailmer's mother thought she was a good mother. The son of sam's mother thought she was a good mother.

doesn't mean anything that you think you're a good mother. live in the real world and realize that denial and ignorance or the refusal to accept that my little billy can't be a bad boy is just the most naive mentality.

have you seen the interviews of the mommy who's son went in at columbine and shot his school mates? but i was such a good mother...

uh huh... sure you were.
mom's are responsible. as are dads, and thusly society, and thusly again culture...

there is an overwhelming capacity to become indignant and offended and say, "how dare you say, or judge or do or blah blah blah' but it doesn't at all change the reality of any of the situations now does it?

there is no way you can possibly know if one day your son might not run someone off teh road, and/or climb into a high tower with a high power and start offing people threw a scope because of some role playing video game, but hey, you'll still be a good mother right? and you have no control right?

take a look around and see what your son is watching, what he does, where he goes, and then decide if you're a good mother or damn you could've done this or that better..

the fact of the matter is, that every good mother I have ever met, hasn't ever felt as though they were a good mother. they always felt as though they could've done more, or done things differently or what have you...
to say that you are a good mother is the beginning of denial...

and well, considering the examples i've given you, you're in good company aren't you? you should pat yourself on the back :)

Awww....Bob...you are such a good daddy!! That one brought tears to my eyes..really!!

Sorry but in some sense I have to agree with LivingByBeats, This world has goten so stupid with the younger generation that it's singers that are starting stuff with each othere by there music. calling each other out, HUH!. Can someone answer me this. why is thos most famuos rapper is whit and the most famuos golfer is black

bobson: you're a good man.

I do love my 2 boys more than anything but my Lord Jesus, and that says a lot

I do love my 2 boys more than anything but my Lord Jesus, and that says a lot

I am in denial about my son being on drugs? Lets just say this...I know that my son isn't on drugs. I just had a nephew to pass away from drugs. My family knows what drugs do...esp my son. So go judge someone else!!
I am a good mother and maybe you should not judge everyone from your mom!!

uhhh, you obviously didn't read what i wrote...

why do people do that? read what they want to see and not what is written??

I did read what you wrote

actually no.. what you did was read it through whatever trigger you have in your life, that made it come out where you decided that I said you are in denial about your son doing drugs...
which isn't and wasn't and can't be at all inferred in any way at all by anyone by what i wrote...

i said saying you're a good mother is the beginning of living in denial... a seperate statement.

earlier to that i said how do you know that your son hasn't ever done drugs? or doesn't do drugs now...?
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see?
different, unrelated...
you put them together, by whatever it was that you saw, that wasn't written on the page and came up with

"you're in denial about your son doing drugs"

i noticed that in the first response about me "being fine with" people doing drugs at the raves, which isn't anything that I said either.....

but like i said...
most people read their their own triggers and insecurities, they don't actually look at things objectively and read them as they are written...
which is why 99% of the time things are misunderstood and the western world has communication problems...

Amen.

Beats, you crack me up. Thanx.

anytime bro :)

i totally agree with you
parents should be more strict in the way they allow their kids to dress

course i could read that a longhairbiker wants to beat me and crack me up...
or i could read it that longhairbiker is beating himself and cracking up...
but i don't have triggers in either of those two area's...

damn