sheesh, I must have "lowered expectations".

okay there's five star 4 star 3 star two star no stars...
No. star dumpster diving
2 star Burger King
3. star. informal. you can wear jeans but they need to be clean.
4. star. dress shirt slacks.. or designer jeans. cloth napkins.

..5 star.. reservation only.... break open that piggy bank..lol

. I bounce between three and four stars...

.. only mother and grandmother get 5 stars..

.... a clean vehicle is a must..
.... you better have table manners..
... tip the waiter or waitress well..
... make sure I get home safe..
. do not get sloppy drunk.... are I will roll you.... and continues the date with someone else....

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Guess this thread applies to men too...
I hear cougars and socialites can be quite generous in their...errr...gifts..

Ok, on the off chance that you would take me out instead of the reverse, which star would I get?

Hey, when it comes to free trips to Paris i ain't too fussy

You're both a prince....and a pauper. and most important, youre phD

Lol.. Who cares who youre on a date with... ...this might just be the exception to the rule..

You said it, haha

I think it depends on what kind of person you are. Some may regard such women as shallow and high maintenance, others may find it normal and okay.
I wouldn't want it all the time myself. Not sure if I'd want it on a first date either. I think I'd prefer a more relaxed setting on a first date.
I'm totally okay with posh, lived that life-style for several years, my stepfather being a president director of a large company. But I also lived with Aboriginals in Australia, hung out with hippies etc. And the latter is far more fun and exciting to me than posh restaurants and fancy dinners. So it's rather personal.
I would appreciate the occasional fancy thing, but to me it feels wrong to expect a guy to cough up a fortune each time we'd meet.
My ex was in a bad place financially when we met, but he came up with all kinds of great things to do together. And to be honest, I've never had such a good time with any man before or after.

well generally speaking.. first dates are always three star.. I want her to feel comfortable and relaxed not like she has to put on airs... be pretentious....lol.... a nice little bistro somewhere..... then if she makes it to the second date.... I like to do something outdoors... we have some beautiful parks... I bring two bikes and a light picnic lunch.... I want to make sure she can keep up.. her cardio is good.... it's important later on.lol...then... fourth date..... no I did not skip 3 date

.usually I break. the third date.. just to see how needy she is... how understanding she is.....

.. fourth date for stars to make up for breaking third date.....

... fifth date breakfast in bed...
....

This is the second time you made me today.

Yes, when a woman wants to betaken out in style, i read again, pause for a second and think:

i do not want to take her out in style. [cause i got no style to offer in the first p�lace... but that's secondary]
i do not want to take her out PERIOD
if she tells me she wants to be taken out, i block that.
because that is shallow and it is another way of telling me
Pamper me, pay for the whole deal, show me your wallet, i want to do nothing besides be along for an awesome, class ride.

my reaction would be

"nee-eext"

Whats your alternative..?...the other meaning of "taking someone out"..perhaps..?

So if she said she didn't want to be taken out, you would take her out? Sorry but i can't see the logic in what you are trying to put across.

YES,,,THANK UUUUUU....
Being a rednick country boy, i dont get the hight maintenance thing,,sure i like to get dressed up, but no all the time, and every time we would go out on a date,we would look funny all dress up a the stock car races,,,,but hey i dont get the new york city thing either,,been there dunn that,,,LOL

Where would you go on a first date?

No!
not at all.
I do not "take her". Not out, not anywhere.
It's not my Job to do the thinking, paying and pampering.
nope.

*but wtf?*

She can talk to me and tell me she has the idea of doing something together, and i either go with it or do not.

she can propose a Visit to disneyland. to go running. get some canvasses and paint something. to see bill burr. to raise the russian flag on the capitol. Set Putin's Limousine on fire and then hit the bars in moskow...

--> she comes to me with something she would like to do. she thinks.she uses her imagination.

--> then i see if i can go with the idea...

--> then we check if we have enough resources (courage, money, time, ammo, equipment) to do it.

and then WE do it.

not "i take her out, invest my time and hope and pray it pleases her, using this night out to display my style, my connections, my resources" in the hope that she will call me again..

that's so yesterday...

Oooh, let's go to Russia.

out for a nice dinner,maybe a cup of coffee and a walk afterwords..
were do yo like to be taken out to on a first date?

Nascar, your date sounds awesome. Throw in a trip to Paris and I'm there.