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Debbie, there are moderate Muslims and there are fanatic Muslims. And Muslim practices differ from country to country, and even state to state in the country. If it is an Islamic country, their rules can be very strict and women have less say as in 'to be seen and not heard'. Remember that men can be chauvinistic regardless of their religion, but Muslim men are allowed to have 4 legal wives.
Muslims who have been lived and being exposed to the Western culture tend to be more accepting of other people's views. So, it is good to know about what are the practices in the country that the man you are referring to is from. Some countries only permit Muslims to marry muslims.....so the non-muslim have to convert. And sex before marriage is punishable for the muslim. "I asked him if he would be faithful and he said he would TRY and be a good muslim ".......find out what his definition of a good muslim is! I dare not list out what I know here in the forum cos' as I said, different countries, different practices. Where I live....it is an Islamic country and some states are pushing for harsh Islamic laws! Just be careful whoever it is! Take care, Deb! |
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That is a very interesting point. As much as the west has made a lot of progress towards equality, my personal experience suggests that actual equality is a ways off yet. There seems to be a lot for us all still to learn. I think despite technological advances in our lifestyle there is still a lot of latent tribalism in the human psyche. It seems people still feel more comfortable with "us" and "them".
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Traditionally Muslims and other Middle Easterners are similar to Europe and the US, because all are patriarchal/sexist cultures traditionally. Basically it all means the same thing for men and women and their relationships, men are on top, women on the bottom. Women stay home and do the housekeeping and childcare including discipline, and the men go to work or hang out in the street. Holey Moley! 
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Why is it that Muslim men don't discipline their own children and that's the wife's job?? every culture has their customs ,,why do 'christian' men expect their wives to do the housework and care for the kids while they provide ,,,its just traditional roles and not even roles that everyone agrees upon or abides by, I do know muslims and this is the first I heard that the men don't take part in discipline,,,but I honestly only have ever known a handful personally |
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Well Debbie, this will be good. My guess is, it's because Islam has its own way of treating women. The Prophet Mohamed did not like the colour black and that's why Muslim women wear it. Says it all. How do they treat women?? I'm really want to know this look up sharia law... |
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Why is it that Muslim men don't discipline their own children and that's the wife's job?? basically, if you like being treated like a cow, it's a great thing... 
http://www.realislam.com/muslim_women.htm http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,185647,00.html |
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Thanks to everyone, apart from just the one.
I asked him a few things and it really isn't for me, the info from the great people here has really helped. Thanks 
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Muslim women do most of the childrearing since men are providers. Women are the ones to discipline their children, and I've never seen men get involved in that. In fact men don't really interact with their children much at all. The children are sort of afraid of their father so they always behave in front of him anyway.
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Muslim women do most of the childrearing since men are providers. Women are the ones to discipline their children, and I've never seen men get involved in that. In fact men don't really interact with their children much at all. The children are sort of afraid of their father so they always behave in front of him anyway. that makes sense, if the women are the primary caretaker, makes sense they are the primary adult involved in the discipline,, |
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Muslim women do most of the childrearing since men are providers. Women are the ones to discipline their children, and I've never seen men get involved in that. In fact men don't really interact with their children much at all. The children are sort of afraid of their father so they always behave in front of him anyway. that makes sense, if the women are the primary caretaker, makes sense they are the primary adult involved in the discipline,, Not really, I'd be horrified if I thought for one second my children were afraid of me. |
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Muslim women do most of the childrearing since men are providers. Women are the ones to discipline their children, and I've never seen men get involved in that. In fact men don't really interact with their children much at all. The children are sort of afraid of their father so they always behave in front of him anyway. that makes sense, if the women are the primary caretaker, makes sense they are the primary adult involved in the discipline,, Not really, I'd be horrified if I thought for one second my children were afraid of me. different strokes for different folks I both loved my parents for their sacrifice and responsibility and feared their authority and discipline ,,,, people view fear differently, I don't believe its always negative or bad,, |
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Muslim women do most of the childrearing since men are providers. Women are the ones to discipline their children, and I've never seen men get involved in that. In fact men don't really interact with their children much at all. The children are sort of afraid of their father so they always behave in front of him anyway. that makes sense, if the women are the primary caretaker, makes sense they are the primary adult involved in the discipline,, Not really, I'd be horrified if I thought for one second my children were afraid of me. different strokes for different folks I both loved my parents for their sacrifice and responsibility and feared their authority and discipline ,,,, people view fear differently, I don't believe its always negative or bad,, Yes, different strokes for different folks. I never feared my parents and I wouldn't expect my kids to fear me. |
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I fear my parents because they are irresponsible and lack empathy 2 very bad characteristics (I guess that's not what kind of fear I meant)...I meant fear in the way a father who earns respect by having a strong moral character (a child would sense this and not want to cross him)...the kind of father I wish I had actually.
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I fear my parents because they are irresponsible and lack empathy 2 very bad characteristics (I guess that's not what kind of fear I meant)...I meant fear in the way a father who earns respect by having a strong moral character (a child would sense this and not want to cross him)...the kind of father I wish I had actually. Again I don't agree. You don't earn respect by making someone fear you. You earn it by being calm and reasonable. |
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Muslim women do most of the childrearing since men are providers. Women are the ones to discipline their children, and I've never seen men get involved in that. In fact men don't really interact with their children much at all. The children are sort of afraid of their father so they always behave in front of him anyway. depends on whether the kids are boys or girls, girls are considered an embarrassment while boys are the golden child... |
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I can't venture a guess as to how-many diapers on Babies I've changed during my life-time... Must be thousands!
Not only my own children, but those whom I've baby-sat when I was a teenager. I've got a wife that doesn't ever use the vacuum cleaner or know how to use a sewing machine. I've got to do it! |
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I guess 'The Mods' can't do enough to cull-out all these dumb-azz stereotypes and hateful comments.
Wow... 1/8th of the planet are Dumb-Azz Muslims locked in a cycle of generalized stereotypes. <--- Sarcasm Here, In Case The Mods What To Start Cleaning-Up. |
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Sheik big hug!
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Why is it that Muslim men don't discipline their own children and that's the wife's job?? I'm not sure this is entirely true. I had a Muslim brother in law, worked with a Muslim man for many years and now work with a Christian woman married to a Muslim man. my brother in law was the ultimate decision maker in the family. my step sister was fine with that because the people of her generation were raised where the man was the authority of the household. (think times of I Love Lucy). anyway, him being tge authority also made him the disciplinarian. the guy I worked with, he and his wife were close to my age, parenting and discipline was equally shared. my partner at work is about 8 years older than me. they share the responsibility of parenting and raising their children. however, since they have four girls and only one son, the majority of certain things falls to her because there are things a mother can better explain to daughters. like RCB says every culture or group has positive and negative. btw, off topic sort of, we are not Muslim but my momma was the one with the firm hand in our household. we would always much rather have been punished by my stepdad. |
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Sheik big hug!
Right back at Ya, Realcarebear... But, don't linger... I've got a cold and I don't want You to get it. |
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