Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Are you disagreeing with Jesus?

Dear Maxisu,

I don't approve of people who act in a hasty way either. I do find it sad and frustrating when I see any person who claims they come in behalf of any commonly perceived idea of theology and with some half-baked ideas decide they're going to take matters into there own hands. For example, I don't assume every so-claiming Christian is a member of the K.K.K. or have spent time at the Jones Town Cult Camp.

So, how do I personally think this campaign against the would-be Muslim factions that seem to cause so-much problem?
The only way to counteract isn't by a military strategy, but by proposing a better platform for what Islam is supposed to be. In doing so, this will appeal to the very consciences of the members of these individuals who, although they may have good reason to be disgruntled, will find themselves unable to act in a hasty way. The truth of the matter is, there are so few minimum prerequisites that a free and open society would need to implement, even if One doesn't want to practice Islam themselves, that the entire War Budget that has been spent to date is a hundred fold greater than it need ever have been, and it wouldn't have cost any soldiers lives either.

Please don't assume every defensive act on the part of the Muslim community, because it may very well be a legitimately defensive action, is somehow a terrorist act. Just because some sources of media that all to often think it's okay to show the retaliation of people who are fighting for their lives, and never show the atrocities of the enemies whom they fighting against, are somehow exempt from their bias. That's when free-speech just becomes propaganda.

One of the most commonly mistranslated verses in the Bible.

(John 1: 1)

It should read, 'In the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God's.'

It's a common abrogation I've known about even before I became a Muslim.


So Dodo David, Can You explain to me why Jesus said, "My Father is greater then I." ???????

If Jesus is already God... Who's he talking about?

Christians and jones cults people sren't strapping bombs to their azzes and killing innocent people... KKK has a small following, and nowadays they are more pro white than anti anything... i think you were thinking of skinheads, which is more terroristic than the KKK now...but skinheads is more of a prison thing, so whites can stick together to survive in prison... but your right in the fact that every race has people in it that only want their race to survive...


and most cults usually just wind up killing themselves, not others...

So now You wish to discuss the semantics of receiving salvation through Jesus' instructions...? What of Jesus' life do You yourself implement in your own salvation?

Mightymoe, I think it was You earlier who presented the idea of as much 10% being potential terrorists. You said there was well over a billion people on the earth who are Muslim.

Let's do the math...

There's about 8 billion people on the planet and let us say there is as little as only a billion of that population that are Muslim.

Okay, 1/8th of the population.

Let's assume 1/10th of a single percentage-point of that Muslim population are going to 'fly-off-the-handle' so as to speak.

One billion is 1000 million.

1,000,000,000 divided by 1,000 which is still a million Muslims on the war-path.

Were are they?

hey...

look over there marge...

it's a dove descending...

just like happened to that dude jesus...

40 leaders of the world super powers all joining arms in France, to fight extremism and save us all from the extremists...

geez homer, that's a really nice thing...

never fear olive oil, popeye is here...

and the president of France announces on national tv the illuminati are attacking france...

hehehe...

hahaha...

my oh my...

your teeth have grown so long grandma...

is that ac/dc hells bells i hear playin marge...

homer, look, the peace ark has arrived...

ooh, damn grandma, your nails look razor sharp, curved and fat like a steel sickle...

and why oh why dear grandma, is that dove in the air doin a nose dive over there, asked poor little red riding hood....

Why are you Guys so humorless?
It's called Satire!

Statement from the Ayatollah Khomeini:

Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. . . . But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. . . . Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender [to the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.

"An Islamic regime must be serious in every field," explained Ayatollah Khomeini. "There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam."


Look no further for your Million!

Nicolas Anelka has been sentenced to 40 years in prison. The former French international was guilty of having eaten a sacred cow at a barbecue with friends.

The AFP has confirmed information: Nicolas Anelka, the former striker of the team of France Football, has been sentenced to 40 years in prison for eating a sacred cow in India at a barbecue with friends. The player and his friends were arrested after a denunciation came from its neighbors. They were immediately tried and will each serve a sentence of 40 years in prison and pay a fine of 1,500 rupees (170 euros).

Player of Mumbai City FC will not appeal his conviction, Indian law does not allow a stranger to appeal. If the French government does not request extradition of the player, there is a good chance that the player serve the entire sentence in India, the prison Mimi Siku of Delhi.

Nicolas Anelka request support gouvernenemt

Counsel for the player requested government support as soon as possible:

“The only crime that committed Nicolas Anelka is the not knowing the culture of the country in which it is located. Nicolas thought it was the guinea pig that was not the sacred cow in India. I seek help from the government, not for the football but what the French compatriot Nicolas Anelka. ”
The French government should communicate in the week about his position. According to our sources, it is not certain that the extradition is requested. Source : footballfrance.fr


http://www.anonymousmags.com/nicolas-anelka-sentenced-40-years-prison-eating-sacred-cow-india/

Last issue of the Journal (Charlie Hebdo) French before the attack.
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Was talking about the "Islamization" of France where it appears on the cover of a number of fortune tellers, he says: "In 2015 my teeth will fall in 2022 will fast of Ramadan," referring to that Islam has become the largest religion in France in 2022 with solutions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQatNYC0R5k&feature=share

22/07/2011

Charlie Hebdo: Norway's Christians didn't have to apologise for Anders Breivik, and it's the same for Muslims now

It's as if no one in any Western country has ever gone berserk with a gun in a public place before



The important thing must be to establish the rules, so we can all get along. To start with, are you allowed to be critical of Muhammad at all? For example, can you suggest that while he was generally perfect, he could sometimes be quite forgetful, and wander into Mecca saying "what did I come out here for"?

If you say "he was the best prophet going, but I have to be honest and say he was **** at table tennis", does that warrant an execution or just a wallop with some pebbles?

And are all images banned, as there seems to be some confusion over this? Maybe there’s a moderate wing of Islamic State, that says it’s alright as long as he’s drawn from the left as that shows off his best side.

Can you draw him if his face isn’t revealed, like the band Slipknot, or The Stig? There should be an agreed and written code, as the stakes for getting it wrong seem to be fairly high.

I suppose the one comfort we can take from this week’s events, is that some of us are lucky enough to live in a society based on Western values, because in countries like America you can’t imagine a lunatic ever going berserk with a gun in a public place.
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One way in which we’re ensuring we protect those values, is by demanding all Muslims denounce the gunmen. It’s true that every Muslim leader in Britain has denounced them several times, but that’s hardly sufficient. They might denounce them at five past three, and then again at twenty past three, but what are they doing in between? For all we know they’re blowing themselves up at bus garages.

So to truly distance themselves from the shooting, every Muslim should have to draw their own satirical cartoon involving Muhammad trampolining on a pig, so we know we can trust them.

Similarly, when the Norwegian Christian Anders Breivik committed his massacre, all decent people marched straight down to the church and yelled "oy vicar, why haven’t you issued a statement condemning the shooting"? And politicians insisted Special Branch must infiltrate every C of E jumble sale to prevent similar radical movements growing throughout Surrey.

When Newcastle gunman Raoul Moat went crazy, I’m sure I remember interviewers, callers on phone-in shows and website forums insisting it was up to so-called moderate Geordies to denounce these atrocities, and X Factor started that week with Louis Walsh saying he wouldn’t take part unless Cheryl Cole condemned this "foul evil act of pure foul evil, carried out by her own people".

Nigel Farage has concluded the murders in Paris prove there’s a “fifth column” seeking to destroy us from within, adding “On a cultural level, what price anybody who is a stand-up comic, a cartoonist, a newspaper columnist, who wants to say something critical about Islam at all?”

This is a fair point, because it’s hard to think of a single newspaper that at any time has ever said anything critical about Islam isn’t it? The Daily Mail for example is virtually a tabloid version of The Koran, and reading The Sun is like watching a Bin Laden video with added ****.

Out in rural Kent, where Nigel Farage is standing to be MP, it’s just Allah Allah Allah all day long. You try buying a buttered scone in Broadstairs during Ramadan.

The claim that Farage and many others appear to make is that Islam is inevitably violent, to which others reply that it’s a religion of peace, with each side quoting chunks of religious text to make their case. But this probably doesn’t help to settle the argument, as every religion’s holy book is a chaotic mixture.

The Old Testament is like an episode of The Sopranos written by someone on crack, with prophets murdering children for calling them "baldhead" and nations destroyed with locusts. But most of us can pass a church without thinking "we should deport those loonies, they want to turn you into a pillar of salt".

Because Christianity can be interpreted in any way you like. You can be a Christian and believe that means you should be generous, peaceful, modest and love thy neighbour. Or you can be a Christian and be a Tony Blair. There’s room for everyone.

The same could be true of all faiths, its followers ranging from the heroic to the despicable, all of them justifying their actions by finding the relevant quote in their holy text. So the most logical response to any supposedly religious act is to respond to the act and not the religion.

But there is one other possibility that’s been overlooked. Maybe the murderers are confused by the British government’s attitude towards crazy Islamic gunmen, which has appeared inconsistent.

Not long ago President Assad of Syria, whose record for madness and violence is exemplary, was invited by the Prime Minister to stay at Buckingham Palace. And the rulers of Saudi Arabia, who recently got through 19 executions in one month, are sold billions of pounds worth of weapons. So maybe the gunmen’s strategy was to prove how mental they were, thinking they’d then be invited for biscuits with The Queen, and then be asked to do a deal for a tank.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/charlie-hebdo-how-exactly-would-we-like-muslims-to-condemn-these-attacks-9966176.html

22/07/2011

Charlie Hebdo: Norway's Christians didn't have to apologise for Anders Breivik, and it's the same for Muslims now

It's as if no one in any Western country has ever gone berserk with a gun in a public place before



The important thing must be to establish the rules, so we can all get along. To start with, are you allowed to be critical of Muhammad at all? For example, can you suggest that while he was generally perfect, he could sometimes be quite forgetful, and wander into Mecca saying "what did I come out here for"?

If you say "he was the best prophet going, but I have to be honest and say he was **** at table tennis", does that warrant an execution or just a wallop with some pebbles?

And are all images banned, as there seems to be some confusion over this? Maybe there’s a moderate wing of Islamic State, that says it’s alright as long as he’s drawn from the left as that shows off his best side.

Can you draw him if his face isn’t revealed, like the band Slipknot, or The Stig? There should be an agreed and written code, as the stakes for getting it wrong seem to be fairly high.

I suppose the one comfort we can take from this week’s events, is that some of us are lucky enough to live in a society based on Western values, because in countries like America you can’t imagine a lunatic ever going berserk with a gun in a public place.
READ MORE
Follow the Paris shootings live
'One million copies' of Charlie Hebdo to be be published
#JESUISCHARLIE HASHTAG USED ACROSS THE WORLD

One way in which we’re ensuring we protect those values, is by demanding all Muslims denounce the gunmen. It’s true that every Muslim leader in Britain has denounced them several times, but that’s hardly sufficient. They might denounce them at five past three, and then again at twenty past three, but what are they doing in between? For all we know they’re blowing themselves up at bus garages.

So to truly distance themselves from the shooting, every Muslim should have to draw their own satirical cartoon involving Muhammad trampolining on a pig, so we know we can trust them.

Similarly, when the Norwegian Christian Anders Breivik committed his massacre, all decent people marched straight down to the church and yelled "oy vicar, why haven’t you issued a statement condemning the shooting"? And politicians insisted Special Branch must infiltrate every C of E jumble sale to prevent similar radical movements growing throughout Surrey.

When Newcastle gunman Raoul Moat went crazy, I’m sure I remember interviewers, callers on phone-in shows and website forums insisting it was up to so-called moderate Geordies to denounce these atrocities, and X Factor started that week with Louis Walsh saying he wouldn’t take part unless Cheryl Cole condemned this "foul evil act of pure foul evil, carried out by her own people".

Nigel Farage has concluded the murders in Paris prove there’s a “fifth column” seeking to destroy us from within, adding “On a cultural level, what price anybody who is a stand-up comic, a cartoonist, a newspaper columnist, who wants to say something critical about Islam at all?”

This is a fair point, because it’s hard to think of a single newspaper that at any time has ever said anything critical about Islam isn’t it? The Daily Mail for example is virtually a tabloid version of The Koran, and reading The Sun is like watching a Bin Laden video with added ****.

Out in rural Kent, where Nigel Farage is standing to be MP, it’s just Allah Allah Allah all day long. You try buying a buttered scone in Broadstairs during Ramadan.

The claim that Farage and many others appear to make is that Islam is inevitably violent, to which others reply that it’s a religion of peace, with each side quoting chunks of religious text to make their case. But this probably doesn’t help to settle the argument, as every religion’s holy book is a chaotic mixture.

The Old Testament is like an episode of The Sopranos written by someone on crack, with prophets murdering children for calling them "baldhead" and nations destroyed with locusts. But most of us can pass a church without thinking "we should deport those loonies, they want to turn you into a pillar of salt".

Because Christianity can be interpreted in any way you like. You can be a Christian and believe that means you should be generous, peaceful, modest and love thy neighbour. Or you can be a Christian and be a Tony Blair. There’s room for everyone.

The same could be true of all faiths, its followers ranging from the heroic to the despicable, all of them justifying their actions by finding the relevant quote in their holy text. So the most logical response to any supposedly religious act is to respond to the act and not the religion.

But there is one other possibility that’s been overlooked. Maybe the murderers are confused by the British government’s attitude towards crazy Islamic gunmen, which has appeared inconsistent.

Not long ago President Assad of Syria, whose record for madness and violence is exemplary, was invited by the Prime Minister to stay at Buckingham Palace. And the rulers of Saudi Arabia, who recently got through 19 executions in one month, are sold billions of pounds worth of weapons. So maybe the gunmen’s strategy was to prove how mental they were, thinking they’d then be invited for biscuits with The Queen, and then be asked to do a deal for a tank.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/charlie-hebdo-how-exactly-would-we-like-muslims-to-condemn-these-attacks-9966176.html

recheck your math... whats 10% of 1.4 billion? you can try to slant your reply, but i do know a little about math...

I think we have to do the math per country.....and use several sources
for instance:

The CIA and the National Counterterrorism Center estimate al-Qaida numbers to be as low as 300 to 400.

What I don't get David is that you are supposed to be a religious man yet you post this chit about a different religion.
I find your topic disgusting and you need to have a word with yourself.



Franky, subtract the notion of what we are "supposed to be" for a second and what you'll find is : "we just are"


And I believe there is a parallel in the microcosm and macrocosm

And I'd love to address several posts but I am unable to read it all here...

Okay Mightymoe... I was being generous when I said, "and let us say there is as little as only a billion Muslims on the Earth."

ALL THE LESS DAMMING !!!!!!

One one-thousandth of 1,400,000,000 Muslims is still one million four hundred thousand Muslims on the war-path.

Again...! Were are they?

because you say so?

you have thought provoking posts assuredly. but most of that stuff I learned in high school....and I agree with sojourning soul...

that does not make ISIS ok tho....agreed there too. It is in my opinion NOT ok to defame and ridicule others's religions. While I do not think retribution is OK, (I am a Christian so retribution is NOT OK), I also believe in freedom of speech and the press and hold those values dearly as an American. So, I don't really think the french press was at all classy in this matter, I abhor the radical actions taken. Just simply NO EXCUSE.

But personally I have no interested in denigrating Mohammad or Islam. I have no interest in either one either way.

I just don;t see the point in getting all excited about it one way or the other. these terrorist guys should find real jobs....

I can't imagine why Mohammad could possibly need a six year old wife.
But, I can imagine why such apostate hadiths were fabricated by enemies of Islam and were sworn as true.

According to the Quran, if a woman is taken as an incarcerate of war, she can not be taken as a wife or any other conjugal partner, unless, after having been observed and examined regarding her religious conviction, she is found to be a true believer. (She Volunteers To Convert To Islam)

Rape, is completely out of the question!

No self-respecting Muslim would want to defile themselves with a non-believer.

If I ever witnessed a 'so-claiming' Muslim man who was raping any woman, I'd feel obliged to kill him myself. Because, he's no Muslim.

In your midst Sheik... A call to action from the Muslim community against such violent ideology is a must, Its gotten out of hand because of your failure to do so sheik...



You should feel equally obliged when the literal murder of innocents arises... Your fear and silence against your own is clear

(Translation)
The man on the left says "I'm the prophet Abrutti"
The man on the right says "Shut up you infidel"

Any truth to this Sheik?