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CowboyGH
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Fri 04/04/14 05:35 AM
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ANSWER ME THIS: How is that jesus would reportedly leave and go off by himself yet his thoughts, words, and actions are written down? seems more like the work of a fictional writer than a recording of "history". I once held two books in my hand, a book on mythology on top and another underneath. I asked a "christian" what he thought about all those tales of a god impregnating a human woman and the resulting half god/half man offspring traveling around performing great feats. He scoffed and stated that it was pure garbage. Went on a tirade about pagan religions and fairy tale folklore. I then produced the book below the mythology tome. You guessed it - the bible. I held it up and stated: a god impregnated a human woman and the resulting half god/half man offspring traveled around performing great feats. He stared at me, slack jawed, torn between understanding and anger. He finally recovered and informed me that the difference was that the bible was the truth and the mythology was not. Really? That's all? when the story began it was told from the perspective of the "god of the jews". there were people in the world other than the jews that already had their own god(s)who was the progenitor of their race/culture. Nearly all creation tales are so similar they could be deemed the same. All gods had a half god/half human child. I asked a "christian" what he thought about all those tales of a god impregnating a human woman and the resulting half god/half man offspring traveling around performing great feats. Psalm 82:6 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. John 10:34 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? And keep in mind when these things were written, hundreds of years apart from one another. a god impregnated a human woman and the resulting half god/half man offspring traveled around performing great feats. Never resulted in half god/half man. Resulted in a god. As previous discussions on here, the word "god" is only used to denote authority over another. It's not a mythical magical creature. Male/Female are merely genders. And is capitalized when in reference to first person, a specific being, eg., Jesus' father. The reason the name is left out is beyond me if it was indeed in the original scriptures. |
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I know JESUS to be the son of God, in john 3:16. He came to this world to restored man back to God, by dying for the sins of this world by shearing his blood for the remission of sins, three days later he resurrected and he is alive today.In john 14;6, He said I am the way and the truth and the life,no one comes to the father except through me. Act 4:12, salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by wish we must be saved.john 1:1-5, made us know He is God,and verse 12 made us know only by believing and accepting him as your God you will be his son too. u r right u can call him whatever u want and he knows who u r talking about.. u can call him, Budda, Allah, Vishnu, Baal, lord, god , ronnnie, steve, satan, it does not matter he loves all the names u call him |
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Jesus is my Lord and Savior, The only begotten son of the living God. He is someone who because of his living I can accept people for who they are and not what they have. To be perfectly honest some people have nothing to offer but their selves. This world is not about riches and glory but about people and the compassion we show each other. Jesus taught me to be kind to strangers and to treat others like I want to be treated. Jesus life was a lesson for everyone to know that no matter what, you can love someone and not feel the world with unnecessary hatred. Love can change anyone that wants to be changed. Everyone is looking for something or someone, ask Jesus through prayer and He will show you what to look for in life.
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Umm... For '50' points. and a chance at A. spin on the big wheel..
.. I will go with. the dude.. up on the cross.... did I guess correctly what do i win...hmm...jk 
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please stop with the quotations and citation numbers. they are irrelevant to my query. the fact that they are written hundreds of years apart would allow for a man to have read and referenced the material. it does nothing to make a point. before you go getting angry at my saying so, your own prophet is alleged to have said something about the devil being real good at quoting from the book.
And muddying the water with gibberish and semantics about half man/half god beings being just gods, you still have not answered the questions: 1...why would hercules be any less a god than jesus? (here is where the quotes must mold the reply - we're all gods.) 2...who wrote down what a guy said when the guy wondered off and was all alone? did he come back and say, "yo, i was praying and i said this, i got no response so i said this, then i started sweating blood dude. it was heavy... it is third person narrative just like any other book. you believe whatever and however you want. but it isn't for us to say one people's god is real and another people's god is not? no one here is in any position to make that determination. i compare religion to sexual preference: if you wanna do that, do it - if you ask me to join you and i say no, shake the dust off your heels and move on. "the vision of christ that thou dost see is my vision's greatest enemy" |
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JESUS is not a half man nor a half god, he is God himself,john1:1,3,10. he existed before the creation of this world, he was the creator himself. col 1:16-19. There are 3 in one God, The father, the Holly Spirit and the Son, also called the Word. The bible is not like other book written by man's ideology.it was inspiration from God through his savant.
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please stop with the quotations and citation numbers. they are irrelevant to my query. the fact that they are written hundreds of years apart would allow for a man to have read and referenced the material. it does nothing to make a point. before you go getting angry at my saying so, your own prophet is alleged to have said something about the devil being real good at quoting from the book. And muddying the water with gibberish and semantics about half man/half god beings being just gods, you still have not answered the questions: 1...why would hercules be any less a god than jesus? (here is where the quotes must mold the reply - we're all gods.) 2...who wrote down what a guy said when the guy wondered off and was all alone? did he come back and say, "yo, i was praying and i said this, i got no response so i said this, then i started sweating blood dude. it was heavy... it is third person narrative just like any other book. you believe whatever and however you want. but it isn't for us to say one people's god is real and another people's god is not? no one here is in any position to make that determination. i compare religion to sexual preference: if you wanna do that, do it - if you ask me to join you and i say no, shake the dust off your heels and move on. "the vision of christ that thou dost see is my vision's greatest enemy" 2...who wrote down what a guy said when the guy wondered off and was all alone? did he come back and say, "yo, i was praying and i said this, i got no response so i said this, then i started sweating blood dude. it was heavy... You act as if the bible was just written up, the bible is a collection of various epistles, or "letters" from across much time. |
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Bible is not just a Book in the hands of his children, it's his very words and they are written in the heart of the believers, but an ordinary book in the hands of the unbelievers. Deut 30:19, God gave man a choice, either to choose Life or Death, or to choose Blessing or Cursing, and he said, choose Life so that you and your children may live. He was not referring to the live we are living here on earth, he was talking about the everlasting life, a life without end with him.
I don't blame anybody on what they believe, or who they accept, some are inherited from their parents, why some don't believe on anyone. There are only two kingdoms, "Light" and "Darkness", Kingdom of God and kingdom of Satan. that is why He said, "I am the way, the truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me" Jesus didn't live the world with any religion, he only left with a relationship, He want to have a relationship with you today. Anyone who needs, Love, Happiness, joy, peace, companion and a friend. Then you need Jesus,all he ask for is just a trial. |
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Reasons why Jesus is not God
Jesus is not all knowing: Mark 24: 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. God is all-knowing, Jesus fails this main qualification. The verse says ONLY the Father meaning nobody else, including the divine Jesus. Jesus never said I am God, but God says he is God: Isa 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: The New Testament makes it very clear that Jesus is the son of man: Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head. Jesus was GIVEN power and authority, he did not own it. God is all-powerful and is independent, he needs no help from anybody. However so this is not the case with Jesus, unlike God, Jesus needs help from God, unlike God, Jesus does not own any power or any authority, rather it is given to him from God. Jhn 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; John 17:6-8: 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that ALL THINGS whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. So, Jesus GIVEN everything he had! This all included miracle, doctrine etc. Basically Jesus did not do anything of his own, he never performed a miracle by his own power, he was given the miracle. He never taught anything of his own, rather he was taught by God and spoke what God told him to speak. Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me Jesus was sent to a specific nation only, not to mankind Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So Jesus was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel. His main duty was for them, not the gentiles or the world. Jesus denied being good in the sense that God is good. Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? The man calls Jesus good, Jesus tells the man there is non good but God. Obviously Jesus referred to God as someone else, which also proves Jesus isn’t God. Jesus could not save anyone from death Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; So Jesus cried to the one who could save him from death, this means Jesus could not save himself from death, therefore this also means Jesus cannot save anyone else from death. Jesus’ believers did NOT believe he was God neither Matthew Chapter 16;13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets So the believers out of the population did not take Jesus as God, they took him for a great man, such as John the Baptist, or Elias, or some others. None of them said he is God. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. Jesus asks his disciples about what they take him to be for, they respond by saying he is the SON OF GOD, Jesus agrees with them and tells them tell no man I am the Christ. So note, Jesus’ disciples do not say you are God, Jesus himself does not say he is God. Now both the son of God and the term Christ do not mean God. They never have, and never will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of Messiah is not God. Will you worship Jesus, or the one Jesus worshiped? Matthew 26:36. Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, "Sit here while I go over there and pray." 44. So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, SAYING THE SAME THING. So are you going worship the one Jesus prayed to? Or are you going to worship Jesus? Logically you worship the one Jesus prayed to. |
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Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) son of Marry peace upon him was only a messenger, not GOD. (John 5:30) ‘I (Jesus) by myself can do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy who has sent me’. (John 17:3) ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent.’ also from holy Qur'an : (Holy Quran 4:157) ‘That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,” but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.’ |
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Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) son of Marry peace upon him was only a messenger, not GOD. (John 5:30) ‘I (Jesus) by myself can do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy who has sent me’. (John 17:3) ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent.’ also from holy Qur'an : (Holy Quran 4:157) ‘That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,” but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.’ How much more you Guys going to borrow,and twist to your purpose! Face it,regardless of your Claims,Islam is Johnny-come-Lately,the youngest of the Abrahamic Religions! It rests solely on what you have borrowed from Judaism,Christianity and the Pagan Religions in the Region! |
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I wonder how much they made when they first started flogging the bible.
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God has sent 1,24000 messengers and Jesus PBUH was one of them.
Gesus PBUH was not son of God but only messenger. If we assume him as son of God then who is Marry PBUH? And if he is son of God then Adam PBUH was a greater or elder son of God because he born without parents. So my dear bros and sis Gesus PBUH was only messenger. The first messenger was Adam PBUM and last messenger is Muhammad PBUH. |
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Watch a movie called "The Man From Earth" this will tell you all you need to know..
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Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) son of Marry peace upon him was only a messenger, not GOD. (John 5:30) ‘I (Jesus) by myself can do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy who has sent me’. (John 17:3) ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent.’ also from holy Qur'an : (Holy Quran 4:157) ‘That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,” but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.’ How much more you Guys going to borrow,and twist to your purpose! Face it,regardless of your Claims,Islam is Johnny-come-Lately,the youngest of the Abrahamic Religions! It rests solely on what you have borrowed from Judaism,Christianity and the Pagan Religions in the Region! |
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Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) son of Marry peace upon him was only a messenger, not GOD. (John 5:30) ‘I (Jesus) by myself can do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy who has sent me’. (John 17:3) ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent.’ also from holy Qur'an : (Holy Quran 4:157) ‘That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,” but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.’ How much more you Guys going to borrow,and twist to your purpose! Face it,regardless of your Claims,Islam is Johnny-come-Lately,the youngest of the Abrahamic Religions! It rests solely on what you have borrowed from Judaism,Christianity and the Pagan Religions in the Region! It rests solely on what you have borrowed from Judaism,Christianity and the Pagan Religions in the Region! Actually incorrect. Judaism is what was practiced by the Jews. Remember the Jews didn't believe Jesus to be the promised Messiah and are still waiting for their savior to come. It's not Christianity's fault the Jews didn't continue on into the second covenant with God. Nothing borrowed, just some didn't move forward from the fulfilled covenant into the new covenant seal with Jesus' blood. |
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I know JESUS to be the son of God, in john 3:16. He came to this world to restored man back to God, by dying for the sins of this world by shearing his blood for the remission of sins, three days later he resurrected and he is alive today.In john 14;6, He said I am the way and the truth and the life,no one comes to the father except through me. Act 4:12, salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by wish we must be saved.john 1:1-5, made us know He is God,and verse 12 made us know only by believing and accepting him as your God you will be his son too. "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God" . John 1:1. The word became human being and, full of grace and truth, lived among us. We saw his glory, the glory which he received as the Father's only Son. John 1:14. |
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God has sent 1,24000 messengers and Jesus PBUH was one of them. Gesus PBUH was not son of God but only messenger. If we assume him as son of God then who is Marry PBUH? And if he is son of God then Adam PBUH was a greater or elder son of God because he born without parents. So my dear bros and sis Gesus PBUH was only messenger. The first messenger was Adam PBUM and last messenger is Muhammad PBUH. Islam is the youngest Religion,and has borrowed heavily from Judaism,Christianity and the Paganism existent in the Region at the time! |
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Who is jesus? Bibile itself confuse about jesus. He ain't what your Imam says,and he ain't what that Christian Preacher says! tooooo much contradiction in bibile about jesus and god Too much killing in the world, >by you know who.< I wonder who next will suffer from some sensless act of bloodshed. No I don't know who??...Why don't you tell us! |
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Jesus Christ is the son of the living God,and he is the only way to reach heaven.ilove Jesus as my lord and my personal savior to him be all the majesty,honor praise,glory how wonderful he is the king of kings and the lord of lords Amen.and as for I,ME&Myself we will live for Christ and amen
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