Topic: "Income Inequality" Total Nonsense!
msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 09:50 AM





So, AA is not using our tax dollars?

Key phrase, Federal Agency.

Federal agency charged with enforcing affirmative-action programs has agreed to improve its procedures in order to increase the number of women and members of minority groups in federally assisted construction projects in New York City.


yes, there are AGENCIES which oversee the LAWS

we don't fund the LAW, we fund the AGENCIES,,lol







Hairsplitting.




no, correcting


we could say we 'fund' the constitution, instead of saying we pay public officials


but it would be incorrect,,,,,we pay PEOPLE whose job includes enforcing the constitution


Oh Goody,let's obfuscate some more,maybe the Topic will go away meanwhile!laugh



laugh laugh laugh

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 01/14/14 09:57 AM






I do believe it is important to realize that "minimum wages was never, nor should it ever be, intended to be a living, sustainable, wage. Basically it's intended for high school students who are looking to gain some work experience, and make a little play money.


oh, I know that, but unfortunately, too many adults don't have options that provide much more than minimum wage in return for their work,,,

unless they have access to other resources to sustain them while they obtain training/education or build networks,,, they are kind of screwed


Perhaps this should be our focus then. Instead of increasing minimum wage to a living wage or $12 or so dollars an hour, which would undoubtedly double the price of everything thereby defeating its own purpose. Not saying that's what you are advocating, but it seems many want minimum wage to increase as a solution to our current financial problems.

Maybe we need to focus on why good paying jobs are leaving, and why education and training cost so much money...

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:02 AM







I do believe it is important to realize that "minimum wages was never, nor should it ever be, intended to be a living, sustainable, wage. Basically it's intended for high school students who are looking to gain some work experience, and make a little play money.


oh, I know that, but unfortunately, too many adults don't have options that provide much more than minimum wage in return for their work,,,

unless they have access to other resources to sustain them while they obtain training/education or build networks,,, they are kind of screwed


Perhaps this should be our focus then. Instead of increasing minimum wage to a living wage or $12 or so dollars an hour, which would undoubtedly double the price of everything thereby defeating its own purpose. Not saying that's what you are advocating, but it seems many want minimum wage to increase as a solution to our current financial problems.

Maybe we need to focus on why good paying jobs are leaving, and why education and training cost so much money...



I do advocate for wages to keep up with cost of living

I don't believe that increasing wages a few dollars will double the prices of other things,, but I do think it would increase the flow of money going through the economy,, people spend more if they have more to spend,,

I also think these other issues contribute as well , which taken in balance can do a lot to turn things around,,

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:05 AM

My opinion is that a large part of the problem is that the middle class by and large supports the government and the poor because we are over taxed. While corporations and the very wealthy pay less than their fair share via legal manuvering that they can afford. Everyone knows this happens but no one had the cajones to do anything about it.

Eyeglasses required.shades


I believe there is a lot of truth to your statement. However the upper class pays the majority of our taxes. The comments you hear about the upper class paying only 15% are false. They are under the same tax bracket system. The mystical 15% number comes from dividends. So if you increase those taxes, you are now increasing everyone's taxes on things like stocks, which many middle class have retirements attached to. We also have the highest corporate tax in the world.

The true manipulation comes from international corporations and how they crunch their numbers writing off expenses in the U.S. and income in countries with little to no corporate taxes. Then you have a small fraction of the upper 1% who are hording the saving directly into their own pockets instead of putting this wealth back into their company.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:09 AM








I do believe it is important to realize that "minimum wages was never, nor should it ever be, intended to be a living, sustainable, wage. Basically it's intended for high school students who are looking to gain some work experience, and make a little play money.


oh, I know that, but unfortunately, too many adults don't have options that provide much more than minimum wage in return for their work,,,

unless they have access to other resources to sustain them while they obtain training/education or build networks,,, they are kind of screwed


Perhaps this should be our focus then. Instead of increasing minimum wage to a living wage or $12 or so dollars an hour, which would undoubtedly double the price of everything thereby defeating its own purpose. Not saying that's what you are advocating, but it seems many want minimum wage to increase as a solution to our current financial problems.

Maybe we need to focus on why good paying jobs are leaving, and why education and training cost so much money...



I do advocate for wages to keep up with cost of living

I don't believe that increasing wages a few dollars will double the prices of other things,, but I do think it would increase the flow of money going through the economy,, people spend more if they have more to spend,,

I also think these other issues contribute as well , which taken in balance can do a lot to turn things around,,


This is where you are incorrect. Smaller businesses can't afford to increase wages from $7 to $12. Increasing this will cause an increase in overhead, thereby increasing prices. You will find that no upper administration will take the pay cut from their wages in the bigger corporations either, so the result will be a cut in staff or an increase in prices. Cause and effect. The money for increased wages must come from somewhere.

However I do agree that wages should coincide with cost of living.

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:12 AM
In the USA, each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage.

So, why not have each state set its own minimum wage (at federal level or higher) to accommodate its particular need?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:20 AM









I do believe it is important to realize that "minimum wages was never, nor should it ever be, intended to be a living, sustainable, wage. Basically it's intended for high school students who are looking to gain some work experience, and make a little play money.


oh, I know that, but unfortunately, too many adults don't have options that provide much more than minimum wage in return for their work,,,

unless they have access to other resources to sustain them while they obtain training/education or build networks,,, they are kind of screwed


Perhaps this should be our focus then. Instead of increasing minimum wage to a living wage or $12 or so dollars an hour, which would undoubtedly double the price of everything thereby defeating its own purpose. Not saying that's what you are advocating, but it seems many want minimum wage to increase as a solution to our current financial problems.

Maybe we need to focus on why good paying jobs are leaving, and why education and training cost so much money...



I do advocate for wages to keep up with cost of living

I don't believe that increasing wages a few dollars will double the prices of other things,, but I do think it would increase the flow of money going through the economy,, people spend more if they have more to spend,,

I also think these other issues contribute as well , which taken in balance can do a lot to turn things around,,


This is where you are incorrect. Smaller businesses can't afford to increase wages from $7 to $12. Increasing this will cause an increase in overhead, thereby increasing prices. You will find that no upper administration will take the pay cut from their wages in the bigger corporations either, so the result will be a cut in staff or an increase in prices. Cause and effect. The money for increased wages must come from somewhere.

However I do agree that wages should coincide with cost of living.


I believe there is an exemption for 'small businesses' the federal requirement exempts those with less than HALF A MILL in profits in a year,,,


msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:22 AM

In the USA, each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage.

So, why not have each state set its own minimum wage (at federal level or higher) to accommodate its particular need?



its an option, but I still prefer the federal to set a minimum and states can set it higher or not,,

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:35 AM


In the USA, each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage.

So, why not have each state set its own minimum wage (at federal level or higher) to accommodate its particular need?



its an option, but I still prefer the federal to set a minimum and states can set it higher or not,,


Why should the federal be set higher when the cost of living isn't the same for each state?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:38 AM



In the USA, each state can have a minimum wage that is higher than the federal minimum wage.

So, why not have each state set its own minimum wage (at federal level or higher) to accommodate its particular need?



its an option, but I still prefer the federal to set a minimum and states can set it higher or not,,


Why should the federal be set higher when the cost of living isn't the same for each state?


even if they set it at the lowest cola state, it should be higher than where it stands,,, imho

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:44 AM
http://seanwmalone.blogspot.ch/2011/01/why-do-we-have-income-inequality-part-i.html



Example: This is NOT "capitalism".


http://seanwmalone.blogspot.ch/2011/01/why-do-we-have-income-inequality-part.html




Bailouts: NOT part of free-market Capitalism.

willing2's photo
Tue 01/14/14 10:55 AM
Edited by willing2 on Tue 01/14/14 11:17 AM
Another pop quiz.

How much in taxpayers money and taxpayers grant monies does the racist, separatist NAACP get from the rest of us?

Same question.
How much Federal assistance does the Klan get?

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 01/14/14 11:26 AM
http://bastiat.mises.org/2014/01/help-a-real-victim-of-the-minimum-wage/

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:01 PM

Another pop quiz.

How much in taxpayers money and taxpayers grant monies does the racist, separatist NAACP get from the rest of us?

Same question.
How much Federal assistance does the Klan get?



Vision Statement of NAACP
The vision of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is to ensure a society in which all individuals have equal rights without discrimination based on race.


Ideals of the KKK http://orig.jacksonsun.com/civilrights/sec4_philosophy_klan.shtml

THIS IS A WHITE MAN'S ORGANIZATION, exalting the Caucasian Race and teaching the doctrine of White Supremacy. This does not mean that we are enemies of the colored and mongrel races. But it does mean that we are organized to establish the solidarity and to realize the mission of the White Race. All of Christian Civilization depends upon the preservation and upbuilding of the White Race, and it is the mission of the Ku Klux Klan to proclaim this doctrine until the White Race shall come into its own.



I see the commonality,,,NOT



both receive federal funds as far as eligibility for loans and grants,,

willing2's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:24 PM
NAACP gets trillions.
They are,as their name proclaims, for the advancement of colored people.

Klan gets 0 dollars to advance the lives of the rest of us.

Kinda discriminating,no?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:30 PM

NAACP gets trillions.
They are,as their name proclaims, for the advancement of colored people.

Klan gets 0 dollars to advance the lives of the rest of us.

Kinda discriminating,no?


no

naacp purpose is including those previously EXCLUDED


kkk purpose is to further the ability for all others to be excluded,,,

willing2's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:34 PM
No. NAACP is racist and separatist.

If I had a discrimination claim, they would not take my case.

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:42 PM
and battered women shelters wouldn't take you in either


how separatist and sexist,,,laugh laugh

willing2's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:45 PM
Edited by willing2 on Tue 01/14/14 12:47 PM

and battered women shelters wouldn't take you in either


how separatist and sexist,,,laugh laugh

So. You're in agreement the NAACP is a hate group, being as racist and separatist as the Klan.

Tell us. Why, again, wouldn't the NAACP take my discrimination case?

msharmony's photo
Tue 01/14/14 12:53 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 01/14/14 12:54 PM


and battered women shelters wouldn't take you in either


how separatist and sexist,,,laugh laugh

So. You're in agreement the NAACP is a hate group, being as racist and separatist as the Klan.

Tell us. Why, again, wouldn't the NAACP take my discrimination case?


no, just pointing out the illogical point of view,,,


NAACP Doesn't promote hate in any way, nor does it promote harming others or being exclusively concerned with one race or group TO THE EXCLUSION of others


I don't know if they would take your case or not,, they take on issues that affect people of ALL colors, not just those affecting black people,,,,


contrary to the belief of those who have no experience with the NAACP Besides reading its name and making assumptions,,,,