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Topic: stand up to a treasonous and illegal federal government
willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 01/11/14 04:23 PM
Pure sheite! I will give up my freedom to leech after my 4 dependants are out of school and the gubament cuts me off. By then, I should have me a woman who can support me.

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sat 01/11/14 04:30 PM
I wonder what our founding fathers would say if they took a close look at today's politics, debt, and problems in general? on the whole I think they'd shore up traditional allies while becoming somewhat isolationist, and move toward a stricter interpretation of the constitution...since they wrote it. And, since they wrote it, I 'd guess a good deal of decision history would end up back in court to be revisited. They would reign in agencies and more would be legislated and voted. I would not be surprised to see a popular vote with a paper ballot where ID is required because that is common sense. They'd pare down the size of gov't and probably cut both military and social spending..in other words a tea party...they would not stand for the tax code we have and I would not be surprised if they expected the states to be a bit more self supporting....might even loosen the reigns as far as the states as I am almost certain federal funding to the states would be cut. I do not think they would change newer additions to the bill of rights but they would be surprised at the rights that women and minorities have. While I would agree with the baseline of your argument, I would at the same time disagree with some of the details. Our founders where a very diverse set of individuals from many different camps, hence our constitution was a compromise to deal with many views. The largest of the differences where expressed by the Federalist and Anti Federalist. Interestingly, here is a great comparision: http://library.thinkquest.org/11572/creation/framing/feds.html Or an even more intense comparison of values for the two groups: http://staff.gps.edu/mines/APUSH%20-antifederalists_vs_federalists.htm lol amusing I did not provide any details. Yes, the Constitution is wrought with compromise but the essential premise and the Bill of Rights were sacred to those men. Even the loosest constructionist in the 18th century would be a stricter constructionist than any one current I can think of. They would cut spending and revisit decisons/legislation that was not a strict construction/interpretation. It's just my opinion. we of course have no way of knowing for sure unless someone is hiding a cryostorage facility...lol

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 01/11/14 04:30 PM Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/11/14 04:32 PM
Pure sheite! I will give up my freedom to leech after my 4 dependants are out of school and the gubament cuts me off. By then, I should have me a woman who can support me. if 'leeching' in capitalist prison is your thing living n slums, worrying bout crime and drugs go for it,,, I know of no moms personally (and that's the bulk of who needs the kind of assistance people gripe about),,who would choose that for their family or their kids,, not to mention there are few places where they could being that there is a lifetime cap on such assistance in most cases,, of 3-5 years Id rather my 'work' be compensated in a way that provides at the least the basics my family needs, and at the most security and freedom

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 01/11/14 04:34 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers?

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 01/11/14 05:05 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? And why be a taxpayer when you don't have to.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 01/11/14 05:16 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? Exactamente! And why be a taxpayer when you don't have to.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 01/11/14 05:27 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? Exactamente! And why be a taxpayer when you don't have to. And did you know that all you have to do is ask. They keep saying it is all voluntary and I didn't want to.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 01/11/14 08:56 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? scamming taxpayers can be done in any economic status,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 01/11/14 08:58 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? Exactamente! And why be a taxpayer when you don't have to. And did you know that all you have to do is ask. They keep saying it is all voluntary and I didn't want to. all you have to do is ask for what? if you didn't want to do whatever it is, how do you know what all was required,,

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sun 01/12/14 05:59 AM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? Exactamente! And why be a taxpayer when you don't have to. And did you know that all you have to do is ask. They keep saying it is all voluntary and I didn't want to. all you have to do is ask for what? if you didn't want to do whatever it is, how do you know what all was required,, Please keep up, we are discussing the evils of the federal government and the IRS is at the top of that list. Now if you are a taxpayer and don't pay your taxes you go to jail as a tax protester. But here is the interesting aspect of the code (code, some secret formula?): Every person liable for any tax imposed by this title, or for the collection thereof, shall keep such records, render such statements, make such returns, and comply with such rules and regulations as the Secretary may from time to time prescribe. Whenever in the judgment of the Secretary it is necessary, he may require any person, by notice served upon such person or by regulations, to make such returns, render such statements, or keep such records, as the Secretary deems sufficient to show whether or not such person is liable for tax under this title. The only records which an employer shall be required to keep under this section in connection with charged tips shall be charge receipts, records necessary to comply with section 6053 (c), and copies of statements furnished by employees under section 6053 (a). But that is probably way too confusing for you.

Peco7777 Joined Tue 08/27/13 Posts: 4	Sun 01/12/14 08:02 PM
It's a Pepsi coke democracy wake up slave

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 01/12/14 10:32 PM
Why work when we cam scam the taxpayers? Exactamente! And why be a taxpayer when you don't have to. And did you know that all you have to do is ask. They keep saying it is all voluntary and I didn't want to. all you have to do is ask for what? if you didn't want to do whatever it is, how do you know what all was required,, Please keep up, we are discussing the evils of the federal government and the IRS is at the top of that list. Now if you are a taxpayer and don't pay your taxes you go to jail as a tax protester. But here is the interesting aspect of the code (code, some secret formula?): Every person liable for any tax imposed by this title, or for the collection thereof, shall keep such records, render such statements, make such returns, and comply with such rules and regulations as the Secretary may from time to time prescribe. Whenever in the judgment of the Secretary it is necessary, he may require any person, by notice served upon such person or by regulations, to make such returns, render such statements, or keep such records, as the Secretary deems sufficient to show whether or not such person is liable for tax under this title. The only records which an employer shall be required to keep under this section in connection with charged tips shall be charge receipts, records necessary to comply with section 6053 (c), and copies of statements furnished by employees under section 6053 (a). But that is probably way too confusing for you. not really, the IRS audits people expecting them to have kept records,,, just some attempt to try to prove one is capable of reading and copying and pasting,, but that still has nothing to do with what I Asked, as usual it was posted,, 'all you have to do is ask',,, about something 'volnuntary' directly AFTER several posts belittling welfare and non taxpayer status,,, since taxes aren't voluntary, IM still wondering what the post was referring to,,

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Mon 01/13/14 02:48 AM
Please keep up, we are discussing the evils of the federal government and the IRS is at the top of that list. Now if you are a taxpayer and don't pay your taxes you go to jail as a tax protester. But here is the interesting aspect of the code (code, some secret formula?): Every person liable for any tax imposed by this title, or for the collection thereof, shall keep such records, render such statements, make such returns, and comply with such rules and regulations as the Secretary may from time to time prescribe. Whenever in the judgment of the Secretary it is necessary, he may require any person, by notice served upon such person or by regulations, to make such returns, render such statements, or keep such records, as the Secretary deems sufficient to show whether or not such person is liable for tax under this title. The only records which an employer shall be required to keep under this section in connection with charged tips shall be charge receipts, records necessary to comply with section 6053 (c), and copies of statements furnished by employees under section 6053 (a). But that is probably way too confusing for you. not really, the IRS audits people expecting them to have kept records,,, just some attempt to try to prove one is capable of reading and copying and pasting,, but that still has nothing to do with what I Asked, as usual it was posted,, 'all you have to do is ask',,, about something 'volnuntary' directly AFTER several posts belittling welfare and non taxpayer status,,, since taxes aren't voluntary, IM still wondering what the post was referring to,, There you go, being wrong as usual.