Topic: you guys and your opinions
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Mon 09/02/13 12:39 PM




The corporations that own America buy and sell politicians, giving us the illusion that we have a choice...

They are in it together!
Its a Symbiosis,an Unholy Marriage!
They can't do without the other!
They have each others back!

"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate
and government power." - Benito Mussolini


WOW that means we have been a fascist country since before I was born.


the moment the Corporate Giants and the Politicians got married!pitchfork


I've underestimated you Conrad. You are a wise old soul.

flowerforyou

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Mon 09/02/13 12:40 PM

everyone has an opinion...the trick is to let them have itsmokin smokin smokin smokin i have my own...but listen to alldrinker drinker smokin and i dont force mine on anyone...lots less dramahappy happy


Hawtness....:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:41 PM









On a different free site, in the current events section, things ran about how they do here.

Until, a Muslim woman started posting. If you disagreed with her or posted what shariah law would deem blasphemy, your posts were deleted.

Pretty soon after that, current events was hidden. Had to Google it to find it.

Come to find out, the Muslim woman 's attorney sent the owner of the site a warning that they would face a law suit if Islam continued to be dissed.

The governments definition of "free speech"..... regulated for content



if you believe such garbage

there would be no law broken in a public forum by INDIVIDUALS posting their opinions,,,,,

especially on a FREE SITE


Ahhhhhh so that is why everyones emails, web usage, phone calls, medical records, bank records, travel and interactions in public must be spied on..... because we are free? slaphead rofl


no, but people are free to continue posting unproven allegations and nonsense because we are 'free'......just saying,,,


I would rather not live under your definition of freedom thank you!

By your definition animals in cages or zoos are free because they lack chains!



does that mean your allegations have proof?

or just another distraction from the point of how 'free' we may or may not be.....

lol


I don't live in a cage,, I come and go as by abilities and resources allow,, sorry to hear you don't have the same luxury,,,


So you can travel without a passport, protest without fear, drive without a license, give birth without recording it, work without paying taxes, get high in your own home, question authority without fear..... but you are free?

Try saying no to obozocare! See how free you are! Or to the IRS, NSA, CSA or any of the other alphabet agencies!


hhaaaaa , WHAT COUNTRY allows international travel with NO PASSPORT?

no, I cant travel INTERNATIONALLY without a passport,, or get on a public road in a one ton instrument traveling at tens of miles per hour without a physical document PROVING I am able to drive the vehicle,,,or get jobs or education without PROOF of who I am and where I come from, what slavery!!!frustrated frustrated ,

good luck on achieving the extent of 'freedom' you are pushing for hon,, most of those laws make sense to most people and actual 'slaves' would probably turn in their grave to hear such requirements being compared to some level of not being 'free'



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Mon 09/02/13 12:44 PM





The corporations that own America buy and sell politicians, giving us the illusion that we have a choice...

They are in it together!
Its a Symbiosis,an Unholy Marriage!
They can't do without the other!
They have each others back!

"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate
and government power." - Benito Mussolini


WOW that means we have been a fascist country since before I was born.


the moment the Corporate Giants and the Politicians got married!pitchfork


I've underestimated you Conrad. You are a wise old soul.

flowerforyou


Bout time you figured that out Jeannie!!bigsmile

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Mon 09/02/13 12:47 PM
This world belongs to everyone. People should not have to have passports.

People have a right to get from one place to another. People should not be required to have drivers licences.

People give birth. You should not be REQUIRED to document it with the STATE.

THAT WOULD BE A FREE WORLD.

but, THE POWERS THAT BE would not have the ability to control things in a world like that, and they sure do want to control things.




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Mon 09/02/13 12:48 PM
And don't even get me started about MARRIAGE LICENCES.

frustrated

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Mon 09/02/13 12:49 PM






The corporations that own America buy and sell politicians, giving us the illusion that we have a choice...

They are in it together!
Its a Symbiosis,an Unholy Marriage!
They can't do without the other!
They have each others back!

"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate
and government power." - Benito Mussolini


WOW that means we have been a fascist country since before I was born.


the moment the Corporate Giants and the Politicians got married!pitchfork


I've underestimated you Conrad. You are a wise old soul.

flowerforyou


Bout time you figured that out Jeannie!!bigsmile


We may not always agree, but he knows his stuff.

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:49 PM










On a different free site, in the current events section, things ran about how they do here.

Until, a Muslim woman started posting. If you disagreed with her or posted what shariah law would deem blasphemy, your posts were deleted.

Pretty soon after that, current events was hidden. Had to Google it to find it.

Come to find out, the Muslim woman 's attorney sent the owner of the site a warning that they would face a law suit if Islam continued to be dissed.

The governments definition of "free speech"..... regulated for content



if you believe such garbage

there would be no law broken in a public forum by INDIVIDUALS posting their opinions,,,,,

especially on a FREE SITE


Ahhhhhh so that is why everyones emails, web usage, phone calls, medical records, bank records, travel and interactions in public must be spied on..... because we are free? slaphead rofl


no, but people are free to continue posting unproven allegations and nonsense because we are 'free'......just saying,,,


I would rather not live under your definition of freedom thank you!

By your definition animals in cages or zoos are free because they lack chains!



does that mean your allegations have proof?

or just another distraction from the point of how 'free' we may or may not be.....

lol


I don't live in a cage,, I come and go as by abilities and resources allow,, sorry to hear you don't have the same luxury,,,


So you can travel without a passport, protest without fear, drive without a license, give birth without recording it, work without paying taxes, get high in your own home, question authority without fear..... but you are free?

Try saying no to obozocare! See how free you are! Or to the IRS, NSA, CSA or any of the other alphabet agencies!


hhaaaaa , WHAT COUNTRY allows international travel with NO PASSPORT?

no, I cant travel INTERNATIONALLY without a passport,, or get on a public road in a one ton instrument traveling at tens of miles per hour without a physical document PROVING I am able to drive the vehicle,,,or get jobs or education without PROOF of who I am and where I come from, what slavery!!!frustrated frustrated ,

good luck on achieving the extent of 'freedom' you are pushing for hon,, most of those laws make sense to most people and actual 'slaves' would probably turn in their grave to hear such requirements being compared to some level of not being 'free'




There are many countries (including the U.S.) that does not require passports.

"It's really up to the receiving country whether they wish to accept someone into their country without a passport," says Lavinia Limon, president and chief executive officer of the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants.

The US admits about 60,000 refugees a year from all over the world, she says, and only a handful have passports.

A lot of countries have agreements between them where only an ID is necessary..just so you know:wink:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:50 PM

It seems some have never heard of "Stockholm Syndrome"

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:54 PM

This world belongs to everyone. People should not have to have passports.

People have a right to get from one place to another. People should not be required to have drivers licences.

People give birth. You should not be REQUIRED to document it with the STATE.

THAT WOULD BE A FREE WORLD.

but, THE POWERS THAT BE would not have the ability to control things in a world like that, and they sure do want to control things.







so, if one doesn't want to live in a community, perhaps they should find a remote island

but if one chooses the 'perks and protections' of living in a community,, documentation is just a necessity of life,,,,

the only reason we are required to have a passport is because although the ' world belongs to everyone' not 'everyone' is contributing to all the countries of the world, or their facilities, or their maintenance,, so when they travel to such countries they are by definition VISITORS

and visitors should expect to be able to prove who they arte,,,

the reason we are required to have a drivers license is because even though we have the right to ' move from one place to another' doesn't mean we have a right to DRIVE

vehicles have a HIGH POTENTIAL of danger because of their size and the numbers on the road, so we are required to PROVE WE CAN OPERATE THE VEHICLE

and people are not REQUIRED to have a birth certificate, but good luck in proving your rights to anything as a citizen of a country without the PROOF you were born in that country,,,


,,,Im seriously surprised people would actually gripe about such trivial and logical requirements but then begrudge others the grievances they post,,,,


frustrated

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:57 PM











On a different free site, in the current events section, things ran about how they do here.

Until, a Muslim woman started posting. If you disagreed with her or posted what shariah law would deem blasphemy, your posts were deleted.

Pretty soon after that, current events was hidden. Had to Google it to find it.

Come to find out, the Muslim woman 's attorney sent the owner of the site a warning that they would face a law suit if Islam continued to be dissed.

The governments definition of "free speech"..... regulated for content



if you believe such garbage

there would be no law broken in a public forum by INDIVIDUALS posting their opinions,,,,,

especially on a FREE SITE


Ahhhhhh so that is why everyones emails, web usage, phone calls, medical records, bank records, travel and interactions in public must be spied on..... because we are free? slaphead rofl


no, but people are free to continue posting unproven allegations and nonsense because we are 'free'......just saying,,,


I would rather not live under your definition of freedom thank you!

By your definition animals in cages or zoos are free because they lack chains!



does that mean your allegations have proof?

or just another distraction from the point of how 'free' we may or may not be.....

lol


I don't live in a cage,, I come and go as by abilities and resources allow,, sorry to hear you don't have the same luxury,,,


So you can travel without a passport, protest without fear, drive without a license, give birth without recording it, work without paying taxes, get high in your own home, question authority without fear..... but you are free?

Try saying no to obozocare! See how free you are! Or to the IRS, NSA, CSA or any of the other alphabet agencies!


hhaaaaa , WHAT COUNTRY allows international travel with NO PASSPORT?

no, I cant travel INTERNATIONALLY without a passport,, or get on a public road in a one ton instrument traveling at tens of miles per hour without a physical document PROVING I am able to drive the vehicle,,,or get jobs or education without PROOF of who I am and where I come from, what slavery!!!frustrated frustrated ,

good luck on achieving the extent of 'freedom' you are pushing for hon,, most of those laws make sense to most people and actual 'slaves' would probably turn in their grave to hear such requirements being compared to some level of not being 'free'




There are many countries (including the U.S.) that does not require passports.

"It's really up to the receiving country whether they wish to accept someone into their country without a passport," says Lavinia Limon, president and chief executive officer of the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants.

The US admits about 60,000 refugees a year from all over the world, she says, and only a handful have passports.

A lot of countries have agreements between them where only an ID is necessary..just so you know:wink:



'alot' and 'many' doesn't really answer the question..lol

so the answer then is we CAN TRAVEL WITHOUT A PASSPORT if we choose to be a refugee,,, problem resolved,,,lol

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 12:58 PM


It seems some have never heard of "Stockholm Syndrome"


looks like some have mastered the art of deflection,,,,,

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 09/02/13 01:01 PM












On a different free site, in the current events section, things ran about how they do here.

Until, a Muslim woman started posting. If you disagreed with her or posted what shariah law would deem blasphemy, your posts were deleted.

Pretty soon after that, current events was hidden. Had to Google it to find it.

Come to find out, the Muslim woman 's attorney sent the owner of the site a warning that they would face a law suit if Islam continued to be dissed.

The governments definition of "free speech"..... regulated for content



if you believe such garbage

there would be no law broken in a public forum by INDIVIDUALS posting their opinions,,,,,

especially on a FREE SITE


Ahhhhhh so that is why everyones emails, web usage, phone calls, medical records, bank records, travel and interactions in public must be spied on..... because we are free? slaphead rofl


no, but people are free to continue posting unproven allegations and nonsense because we are 'free'......just saying,,,


I would rather not live under your definition of freedom thank you!

By your definition animals in cages or zoos are free because they lack chains!



does that mean your allegations have proof?

or just another distraction from the point of how 'free' we may or may not be.....

lol


I don't live in a cage,, I come and go as by abilities and resources allow,, sorry to hear you don't have the same luxury,,,


So you can travel without a passport, protest without fear, drive without a license, give birth without recording it, work without paying taxes, get high in your own home, question authority without fear..... but you are free?

Try saying no to obozocare! See how free you are! Or to the IRS, NSA, CSA or any of the other alphabet agencies!


hhaaaaa , WHAT COUNTRY allows international travel with NO PASSPORT?

no, I cant travel INTERNATIONALLY without a passport,, or get on a public road in a one ton instrument traveling at tens of miles per hour without a physical document PROVING I am able to drive the vehicle,,,or get jobs or education without PROOF of who I am and where I come from, what slavery!!!frustrated frustrated ,

good luck on achieving the extent of 'freedom' you are pushing for hon,, most of those laws make sense to most people and actual 'slaves' would probably turn in their grave to hear such requirements being compared to some level of not being 'free'




There are many countries (including the U.S.) that does not require passports.

"It's really up to the receiving country whether they wish to accept someone into their country without a passport," says Lavinia Limon, president and chief executive officer of the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants.

The US admits about 60,000 refugees a year from all over the world, she says, and only a handful have passports.

A lot of countries have agreements between them where only an ID is necessary..just so you know:wink:



'alot' and 'many' doesn't really answer the question..lol

so the answer then is we CAN TRAVEL WITHOUT A PASSPORT if we choose to be a refugee,,, problem resolved,,,lol

Once again you comment before research...there are many countries you can travel without a passport AND without being a refugee.
Britain and Ireland and surrounding countries have such agreements. You can travel to many Caribbean Islands(not U.S. territories) without a passport.
Some require specific travel documents but are not considered "passports".

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 01:08 PM













On a different free site, in the current events section, things ran about how they do here.

Until, a Muslim woman started posting. If you disagreed with her or posted what shariah law would deem blasphemy, your posts were deleted.

Pretty soon after that, current events was hidden. Had to Google it to find it.

Come to find out, the Muslim woman 's attorney sent the owner of the site a warning that they would face a law suit if Islam continued to be dissed.

The governments definition of "free speech"..... regulated for content



if you believe such garbage

there would be no law broken in a public forum by INDIVIDUALS posting their opinions,,,,,

especially on a FREE SITE


Ahhhhhh so that is why everyones emails, web usage, phone calls, medical records, bank records, travel and interactions in public must be spied on..... because we are free? slaphead rofl


no, but people are free to continue posting unproven allegations and nonsense because we are 'free'......just saying,,,


I would rather not live under your definition of freedom thank you!

By your definition animals in cages or zoos are free because they lack chains!



does that mean your allegations have proof?

or just another distraction from the point of how 'free' we may or may not be.....

lol


I don't live in a cage,, I come and go as by abilities and resources allow,, sorry to hear you don't have the same luxury,,,


So you can travel without a passport, protest without fear, drive without a license, give birth without recording it, work without paying taxes, get high in your own home, question authority without fear..... but you are free?

Try saying no to obozocare! See how free you are! Or to the IRS, NSA, CSA or any of the other alphabet agencies!


hhaaaaa , WHAT COUNTRY allows international travel with NO PASSPORT?

no, I cant travel INTERNATIONALLY without a passport,, or get on a public road in a one ton instrument traveling at tens of miles per hour without a physical document PROVING I am able to drive the vehicle,,,or get jobs or education without PROOF of who I am and where I come from, what slavery!!!frustrated frustrated ,

good luck on achieving the extent of 'freedom' you are pushing for hon,, most of those laws make sense to most people and actual 'slaves' would probably turn in their grave to hear such requirements being compared to some level of not being 'free'




There are many countries (including the U.S.) that does not require passports.

"It's really up to the receiving country whether they wish to accept someone into their country without a passport," says Lavinia Limon, president and chief executive officer of the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants.

The US admits about 60,000 refugees a year from all over the world, she says, and only a handful have passports.

A lot of countries have agreements between them where only an ID is necessary..just so you know:wink:



'alot' and 'many' doesn't really answer the question..lol

so the answer then is we CAN TRAVEL WITHOUT A PASSPORT if we choose to be a refugee,,, problem resolved,,,lol

Once again you comment before research...there are many countries you can travel without a passport AND without being a refugee.
Britain and Ireland and surrounding countries have such agreements. You can travel to many Caribbean Islands(not U.S. territories) without a passport.
Some require specific travel documents but are not considered "passports".



not what I was talking about at all,,lol

yes, some countries have agreements with other countries IN THEIR REGION(Ireland is IN BRITAIN, by the way),,,wales, England, Scotland ,and northern Ireland are all part of a greater geographical body called GREAT BRITTAIN,

countries travel within it like people travel between the states here

,,,but those who are not citizens OF THAT REGION, need a passport to enter unless they are a refugee

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Mon 09/02/13 01:09 PM


This world belongs to everyone. People should not have to have passports.

People have a right to get from one place to another. People should not be required to have drivers licences.

People give birth. You should not be REQUIRED to document it with the STATE.

THAT WOULD BE A FREE WORLD.

but, THE POWERS THAT BE would not have the ability to control things in a world like that, and they sure do want to control things.







so, if one doesn't want to live in a community, perhaps they should find a remote island

but if one chooses the 'perks and protections' of living in a community,, documentation is just a necessity of life,,,,

the only reason we are required to have a passport is because although the ' world belongs to everyone' not 'everyone' is contributing to all the countries of the world, or their facilities, or their maintenance,, so when they travel to such countries they are by definition VISITORS

and visitors should expect to be able to prove who they arte,,,

the reason we are required to have a drivers license is because even though we have the right to ' move from one place to another' doesn't mean we have a right to DRIVE

vehicles have a HIGH POTENTIAL of danger because of their size and the numbers on the road, so we are required to PROVE WE CAN OPERATE THE VEHICLE

and people are not REQUIRED to have a birth certificate, but good luck in proving your rights to anything as a citizen of a country without the PROOF you were born in that country,,,


,,,Im seriously surprised people would actually gripe about such trivial and logical requirements but then begrudge others the grievances they post,,,,


frustrated



Of course there are always excuses and reasons for every kind of rule in any society and of course you would find them all fairly "reasonable." People are conditioned from birth from the society they live in.

They permit and consent to being ruled in exchange for the "perks."

They give up their personal freedom for the illusion of "safety."

It will eventually evolve into a very controlled society.

How much freedom will we loose and how much will we give up in exchange for perks and safety? History says... a lot.

Until the lack of personal freedom becomes something we, once again, have to fight and die for.




msharmony's photo
Mon 09/02/13 01:10 PM
excuses and reasons,,lol

well, yall keep up the good fight to have the gluttonous 'evolved' society you have while eradicating any requirement for any documentation,,,

flowerforyou

willing2's photo
Mon 09/02/13 01:12 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 09/02/13 01:13 PM
From the US to Mexico DOES NOT require a passport.
Nor, do you have to claim you're a refugee.

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Mon 09/02/13 01:13 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 09/02/13 01:16 PM
I ask good questions, that I hope people will ponder. You won't I'm sure. You will go along with the New world government like a puppy for your perks.

The questions are:

How much freedom will we loose and how much will we give up in exchange for perks and safety?

(History says... a lot.)

Until the lack of personal freedom becomes something we, once again, have to fight and die for.

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Mon 09/02/13 01:15 PM

From the US to Mexico DOES NOT require a passport.
Nor, do you have to claim you're a refugee.



Really? Lets run away to Mexico.

How about Canada?

Last I heard, you now have to have a passport to go on a Caribbean cruise. You didn't used to.


Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 09/02/13 01:16 PM














On a different free site, in the current events section, things ran about how they do here.

Until, a Muslim woman started posting. If you disagreed with her or posted what shariah law would deem blasphemy, your posts were deleted.

Pretty soon after that, current events was hidden. Had to Google it to find it.

Come to find out, the Muslim woman 's attorney sent the owner of the site a warning that they would face a law suit if Islam continued to be dissed.

The governments definition of "free speech"..... regulated for content



if you believe such garbage

there would be no law broken in a public forum by INDIVIDUALS posting their opinions,,,,,

especially on a FREE SITE


Ahhhhhh so that is why everyones emails, web usage, phone calls, medical records, bank records, travel and interactions in public must be spied on..... because we are free? slaphead rofl


no, but people are free to continue posting unproven allegations and nonsense because we are 'free'......just saying,,,


I would rather not live under your definition of freedom thank you!

By your definition animals in cages or zoos are free because they lack chains!



does that mean your allegations have proof?

or just another distraction from the point of how 'free' we may or may not be.....

lol


I don't live in a cage,, I come and go as by abilities and resources allow,, sorry to hear you don't have the same luxury,,,


So you can travel without a passport, protest without fear, drive without a license, give birth without recording it, work without paying taxes, get high in your own home, question authority without fear..... but you are free?

Try saying no to obozocare! See how free you are! Or to the IRS, NSA, CSA or any of the other alphabet agencies!


hhaaaaa , WHAT COUNTRY allows international travel with NO PASSPORT?

no, I cant travel INTERNATIONALLY without a passport,, or get on a public road in a one ton instrument traveling at tens of miles per hour without a physical document PROVING I am able to drive the vehicle,,,or get jobs or education without PROOF of who I am and where I come from, what slavery!!!frustrated frustrated ,

good luck on achieving the extent of 'freedom' you are pushing for hon,, most of those laws make sense to most people and actual 'slaves' would probably turn in their grave to hear such requirements being compared to some level of not being 'free'




There are many countries (including the U.S.) that does not require passports.

"It's really up to the receiving country whether they wish to accept someone into their country without a passport," says Lavinia Limon, president and chief executive officer of the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants.

The US admits about 60,000 refugees a year from all over the world, she says, and only a handful have passports.

A lot of countries have agreements between them where only an ID is necessary..just so you know:wink:



'alot' and 'many' doesn't really answer the question..lol

so the answer then is we CAN TRAVEL WITHOUT A PASSPORT if we choose to be a refugee,,, problem resolved,,,lol

Once again you comment before research...there are many countries you can travel without a passport AND without being a refugee.
Britain and Ireland and surrounding countries have such agreements. You can travel to many Caribbean Islands(not U.S. territories) without a passport.
Some require specific travel documents but are not considered "passports".



not what I was talking about at all,,lol

yes, some countries have agreements with other countries IN THEIR REGION(Ireland is IN BRITAIN, by the way),,,wales, England, Scotland ,and northern Ireland are all part of a greater geographical body called GREAT BRITTAIN,

countries travel within it like people travel between the states here

,,,but those who are not citizens OF THAT REGION, need a passport to enter unless they are a refugee

Wrong again MH, I just listed a few examples to the rule. If you expand this beyond using "air travel" there are many more you can travel by land and sea that you do not need passports for.