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Topic: Zimmerman Murder case
msharmony's photo
Tue 07/09/13 11:02 PM

I am still wondering if Zimmerman could be found guilty of a lesser charge of manslaughter.



from what I have read, its possible

782.11 Unnecessary killing to prevent unlawful act.—Whoever shall unnecessarily kill another, either while resisting an attempt by such other person to commit any felony, or to do any other unlawful act, or after such attempt shall have failed, shall be deemed guilty of manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.


if its deemed that it was unnecessary to kill a boy punching him,,,,,,

willing2's photo
Wed 07/10/13 06:07 AM
I tell ya what.
If I was on the ground getting my head slammed on the ground and I had a gun, they'd have more than one bullet in them.

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Wed 07/10/13 06:17 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 07/10/13 06:18 AM
The Illuminati, a popular clothing brand and activist blog that powers itself on paranoia and conspiracy theories, has called for the murder of George Zimmerman in order to restore “justice.”

“The Only Justice for Trayvon Martin is to take the Life of George Zimmerman. #EyeForAnEye #ZimmermanTrial,” the group posted Tuesday morning.



With more than a million Twitter followers, the post quickly went viral, gaining more than 600 retweets and 200 favorites at the time of this report.

The group is relatively private about its activities despite its wide following. Its bio page states the mission statement: “Look to the light. Learn from the light. FOLLOW THE LIGHT.”

The group also sells a variety of T-shirt and key chains that say, “Illuminati exposes everything around me,” and “United Snakes of America.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/9/illuminati-clothing-brand-calls-eye-murder-george-/

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Wed 07/10/13 07:14 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 07/10/13 08:05 AM
Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422

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Wed 07/10/13 07:24 AM


Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422#.Ud1r19jHy9I
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Wed 07/10/13 08:06 AM



Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

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Try this one....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/10/13 08:38 AM
there are a million opinions out there

at this point, its in the jurors hands,,,,,,


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Wed 07/10/13 08:41 AM
And only the jury has heard all the facts. I think he will be convicted of some type of manslaughter, due to his disobedience of what the police dispatcher said...it could be argued that if he had stayed in his car this young guy would be alive, bringing his brothers skittles home...jmo

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Wed 07/10/13 08:42 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 07/10/13 08:44 AM

And only the jury has heard all the facts. I think he will be convicted of some type of manslaughter, due to his disobedience of what the police dispatcher said...it could be argued that if he had stayed in his car this young guy would be alive, bringing his brothers skittles home...jmo


I don't have expectations really, will just wait to see what happens

nothing surprises me in this world anymore really, especially with American culture,,,


history tells me the person who can afford the best witnesses usually wins the case

but I also don't know if other women may look through the price of the witness to the case itself,,,,,

who knows...


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Wed 07/10/13 08:44 AM




Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

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Try this one....

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422
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Wed 07/10/13 12:25 PM





Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

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Try this one....

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Something I do not understand.

As much as we have heard about the voices on the call.

Is how can they not rule out who is screaming or not.

Everyone has a particular spectrum sound, wavelengths,pitch, frequency.

With al the technology we have where even computers will not come on even without hearing the right voice.

Can't they rule out just by normal tests of the 2 reading (voices)

The specific frequencies that were yelled out Help. Could you rule out whether a voice could be ruled out by the spectrum of what your voice box does to these times of fear?

Have they ever looked at the science of voice spectrum of a normal voice print?

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Wed 07/10/13 12:51 PM
Zimmerman should be in jail and all the black ppl in jail should be set free :)

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Wed 07/10/13 01:08 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 07/10/13 01:10 PM






Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422#.Ud1r19jHy9I
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Something I do not understand.

As much as we have heard about the voices on the call.

Is how can they not rule out who is screaming or not.

Everyone has a particular spectrum sound, wavelengths,pitch, frequency.

With al the technology we have where even computers will not come on even without hearing the right voice.

Can't they rule out just by normal tests of the 2 reading (voices)

The specific frequencies that were yelled out Help. Could you rule out whether a voice could be ruled out by the spectrum of what your voice box does to these times of fear?

Have they ever looked at the science of voice spectrum of a normal voice print?
I think Stress shots it all to Hell,especially if you don't have previous Prints!
Coming through several Devices,Cellphone,Dispatcher Radio makes it even more difficult,and in the end it still boils down to how the Experts interpret the Graphs!
You'd basically have to duplicate the exact conditions that prevailed that evening,practically impossible!

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Wed 07/10/13 01:48 PM







Analysis: George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why

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Try this one....

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:thumbsup: Now you're cooking with Gas!


Something I do not understand.

As much as we have heard about the voices on the call.

Is how can they not rule out who is screaming or not.

Everyone has a particular spectrum sound, wavelengths,pitch, frequency.

With al the technology we have where even computers will not come on even without hearing the right voice.

Can't they rule out just by normal tests of the 2 reading (voices)

The specific frequencies that were yelled out Help. Could you rule out whether a voice could be ruled out by the spectrum of what your voice box does to these times of fear?

Have they ever looked at the science of voice spectrum of a normal voice print?
I think Stress shots it all to Hell,especially if you don't have previous Prints!
Coming through several Devices,Cellphone,Dispatcher Radio makes it even more difficult,and in the end it still boils down to how the Experts interpret the Graphs!
You'd basically have to duplicate the exact conditions that prevailed that evening,practically impossible!


maybe so.. voice spectrum the high notes the low notes of the call and do simulations raising the frequency of different levels personally I believe you could rule out at least one of them from studies of voice reconigition. software to a very high degree.

Do you believe certain people when yelling for help at the voice vibrations level that was heard on the tape and Zimmermans own voice will sound anywhere close to each other because of the different sounds their normal voice makes?


Dodo_David's photo
Wed 07/10/13 02:13 PM

Zimmerman should be in jail and all the black ppl in jail should be set free :)


The first part of that statement is questionable.
The latter half of that statement is racist.

adj4u's photo
Wed 07/10/13 02:22 PM


should not have volunteered to help see the thanks ya get


the fact that they were in a physical altercation shows its not murder
if he wanted to murder him he didnt have to get beat up

he could have just shot him if thats what he wanted

the judge is bias to the point of a new trial should happen if convicted

allowing zimm interest of law enforcement in and

rejecting mart interest in fighting and other interests in

definite bias

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/10/13 05:23 PM


Zimmerman should be in jail and all the black ppl in jail should be set free :)


The first part of that statement is questionable.
The latter half of that statement is racist.



I hate it when that happens,,,,

blurs the whole discussion,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/10/13 05:25 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 07/10/13 05:27 PM



should not have volunteered to help see the thanks ya get


the fact that they were in a physical altercation shows its not murder
if he wanted to murder him he didnt have to get beat up

he could have just shot him if thats what he wanted

the judge is bias to the point of a new trial should happen if convicted

allowing zimm interest of law enforcement in and

rejecting mart interest in fighting and other interests in

definite bias


the judge has not given instructions, im sure she will follow the law when she does

the judge didnt present the evidence

the judge will not decide the verdict


many
'fights' have ended in murder,, especially if one was trying to not be murdered,,lol

thats the difference between PREMEDITATED and other types of homicide charges,,,,


but not to worry, justice has a history of being on the side of money,,,,,and 'image',,, and the defendant certainly has more of both than the victim or his witnesses,,,

adj4u's photo
Wed 07/10/13 05:42 PM




should not have volunteered to help see the thanks ya get


the fact that they were in a physical altercation shows its not murder
if he wanted to murder him he didnt have to get beat up

he could have just shot him if thats what he wanted

the judge is bias to the point of a new trial should happen if convicted

allowing zimm interest of law enforcement in and

rejecting mart interest in fighting and other interests in

definite bias


the judge has not given instructions, im sure she will follow the law when she does

the judge didnt present the evidence

the judge will not decide the verdict


many
'fights' have ended in murder,, especially if one was trying to not be murdered,,lol

thats the difference between PREMEDITATED and other types of homicide charges,,,,


but not to worry, justice has a history of being on the side of money,,,,,and 'image',,, and the defendant certainly has more of both than the victim or his witnesses,,,



She denied the text evidence on the absurd claim that because there was no way to know with 100% certainty that the texts on the phone owned by Trayvon were sent by him, the jury shouldn’t see them, even though the jury would be able to consider the fact that there was an unreasonable chance that he hadn’t sent them, and even though the defense may have been able to present evidence that they WERE sent by him. In addition, the prosecution team delayed letting the defense team know they had the texts in the first place, in order to prevent the defense from contacting the people Trayvon had sent them to, who could then corroborate that Trayvon had in fact sent them. The judge didn’t care. She had already, before the trial started, denied the defense’s request for a delay in order to do that very corroboration. These texts are very important, and perhaps key, because of the m...

Full article: http://patdollard.com/2013/07/watch-judge-proves-she-is-w...

Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 07/10/13 05:43 PM
Zimmerman had a gun and he sterotyped "T"! Zimmerman was a bit fearful so he used his gun. The murder could have been avoided. Zimmerman should get a lesser charge than manslaughter, but he should get at least 30 years.

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