Topic: Louis Farrakhan aka Eugene, demands a separate nation
msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 11:23 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/05/13 11:24 AM


americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.

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Sat 01/05/13 12:18 PM



americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.


You did not post that he was a prophet of the Bible.
Neither did I suggest you did.

Question was... do you believe his declarations have weight as though he hears from and speaks for God?...in the same manner as Biblical prophets did.

Truth is...he exploits blacks.

He's a wolf in wolf's clothing.

If there's ever to be an African American Nation, chances are he'd nominate himself to be its leader?



msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 12:25 PM




americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.


You did not post that he was a prophet of the Bible.
Neither did I suggest you did.

Question was... do you believe his declarations have weight as though he hears from and speaks for God?...in the same manner as Biblical prophets did.

Truth is...he exploits blacks.

He's a wolf in wolf's clothing.

If there's ever to be an African American Nation, chances are he'd nominate himself to be its leader?






I dont know if he hears from or speaks for God. I Believe he believes he does.


I dont personally know Gods relationship with someone else. I would not presume to say I Did. I dont know if Gods relationship with a person is even what ends up being what they express to others.


what I do believe, is that Elders have often lived through times and survived things that cause them to gain certain wisdom in certain areas. EVen elders that are otherwise mentally challenged can have wisdom to share with others from their LIFE EXPERIENCE.


I believe Farrakhan is a wise elder, that does not equate to me agreeing with everything he thinks or believing everything he believes. It only means that I have listened to him speak things that, to me, are indeed words of wisdom.

no photo
Sat 01/05/13 12:53 PM





americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.


You did not post that he was a prophet of the Bible.
Neither did I suggest you did.

Question was... do you believe his declarations have weight as though he hears from and speaks for God?...in the same manner as Biblical prophets did.

Truth is...he exploits blacks.

He's a wolf in wolf's clothing.

If there's ever to be an African American Nation, chances are he'd nominate himself to be its leader?






I dont know if he hears from or speaks for God. I Believe he believes he does.


I dont personally know Gods relationship with someone else. I would not presume to say I Did. I dont know if Gods relationship with a person is even what ends up being what they express to others.


what I do believe, is that Elders have often lived through times and survived things that cause them to gain certain wisdom in certain areas. EVen elders that are otherwise mentally challenged can have wisdom to share with others from their LIFE EXPERIENCE.


I believe Farrakhan is a wise elder, that does not equate to me agreeing with everything he thinks or believing everything he believes. It only means that I have listened to him speak things that, to me, are indeed words of wisdom.


He is elderly... and still racist, that's it.
Never heard anything wise come out of his mouth.
He's just a mouthpiece for an evil movement.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 01:51 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/05/13 01:54 PM






americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.


You did not post that he was a prophet of the Bible.
Neither did I suggest you did.

Question was... do you believe his declarations have weight as though he hears from and speaks for God?...in the same manner as Biblical prophets did.

Truth is...he exploits blacks.

He's a wolf in wolf's clothing.

If there's ever to be an African American Nation, chances are he'd nominate himself to be its leader?






I dont know if he hears from or speaks for God. I Believe he believes he does.


I dont personally know Gods relationship with someone else. I would not presume to say I Did. I dont know if Gods relationship with a person is even what ends up being what they express to others.


what I do believe, is that Elders have often lived through times and survived things that cause them to gain certain wisdom in certain areas. EVen elders that are otherwise mentally challenged can have wisdom to share with others from their LIFE EXPERIENCE.


I believe Farrakhan is a wise elder, that does not equate to me agreeing with everything he thinks or believing everything he believes. It only means that I have listened to him speak things that, to me, are indeed words of wisdom.


He is elderly... and still racist, that's it.
Never heard anything wise come out of his mouth.
He's just a mouthpiece for an evil movement.



Id be surprised that many who have such blanket and absolute judgments of others take much time to listen to anything they say,,,,

even if there is wisdom there,, such people would never know,,


his 'evil is as 'evil' Pat Robertson or pretty much any other preacher who preaches anything about 'evil' themself ,, but I have likewise heard Pat Robertson speak wisdom

albeit, much more rare an occasion than I have heard from Farrakhan


no photo
Sat 01/05/13 02:34 PM







americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.


You did not post that he was a prophet of the Bible.
Neither did I suggest you did.

Question was... do you believe his declarations have weight as though he hears from and speaks for God?...in the same manner as Biblical prophets did.

Truth is...he exploits blacks.

He's a wolf in wolf's clothing.

If there's ever to be an African American Nation, chances are he'd nominate himself to be its leader?






I dont know if he hears from or speaks for God. I Believe he believes he does.


I dont personally know Gods relationship with someone else. I would not presume to say I Did. I dont know if Gods relationship with a person is even what ends up being what they express to others.


what I do believe, is that Elders have often lived through times and survived things that cause them to gain certain wisdom in certain areas. EVen elders that are otherwise mentally challenged can have wisdom to share with others from their LIFE EXPERIENCE.


I believe Farrakhan is a wise elder, that does not equate to me agreeing with everything he thinks or believing everything he believes. It only means that I have listened to him speak things that, to me, are indeed words of wisdom.


He is elderly... and still racist, that's it.
Never heard anything wise come out of his mouth.
He's just a mouthpiece for an evil movement.



Id be surprised that many who have such blanket and absolute judgments of others take much time to listen to anything they say,,,,

even if there is wisdom there,, such people would never know,,


his 'evil is as 'evil' Pat Robertson or pretty much any other preacher who preaches anything about 'evil' themself ,, but I have likewise heard Pat Robertson speak wisdom

albeit, much more rare an occasion than I have heard from Farrakhan




Not surprised by the response.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 02:36 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/05/13 02:36 PM








americans often dont wish to hear about the death that is biblical 'justice'

even if its all throughout the bible



he calls for people to 'do right',,,,,,he calls for people to have the option to have a seperate nation (a vote on it nonetheless) just as the jews were allowed to have,,,,,,


other than his specific belief of Mahdi, and his belief that serpents in the bible refers to any particular race

even much of this snippet seems wise to me,,,,


Surely,
you don't equate Louis Farahkan with the Prophets of the Holy Bible?!









did I post that Farrakhan was a prophet of the Bible?

Im equating death as one form of biblical justice that is mentioned IN THE BIBLE ITSELF.


You did not post that he was a prophet of the Bible.
Neither did I suggest you did.

Question was... do you believe his declarations have weight as though he hears from and speaks for God?...in the same manner as Biblical prophets did.

Truth is...he exploits blacks.

He's a wolf in wolf's clothing.

If there's ever to be an African American Nation, chances are he'd nominate himself to be its leader?






I dont know if he hears from or speaks for God. I Believe he believes he does.


I dont personally know Gods relationship with someone else. I would not presume to say I Did. I dont know if Gods relationship with a person is even what ends up being what they express to others.


what I do believe, is that Elders have often lived through times and survived things that cause them to gain certain wisdom in certain areas. EVen elders that are otherwise mentally challenged can have wisdom to share with others from their LIFE EXPERIENCE.


I believe Farrakhan is a wise elder, that does not equate to me agreeing with everything he thinks or believing everything he believes. It only means that I have listened to him speak things that, to me, are indeed words of wisdom.


He is elderly... and still racist, that's it.
Never heard anything wise come out of his mouth.
He's just a mouthpiece for an evil movement.



Id be surprised that many who have such blanket and absolute judgments of others take much time to listen to anything they say,,,,

even if there is wisdom there,, such people would never know,,


his 'evil is as 'evil' Pat Robertson or pretty much any other preacher who preaches anything about 'evil' themself ,, but I have likewise heard Pat Robertson speak wisdom

albeit, much more rare an occasion than I have heard from Farrakhan




Not surprised by the response.



honestly, we agree

once people develop certain MO's in these threads, their responses and interpretations are rarely surprising,,,

but hey,, there is actually something positive about being 'consistent' in ones values and beliefs

willing2's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:37 PM
That's why I said, Eugene and Duke are soul mates.

Different colors, same agenda.

May God, not Allah, have mercy on those who put Eugene as a wise man.

He's an organ grinder.

Calypso Gene. Turned radical extremist.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:47 PM
'wise' and 'good' are terms that are subjective/general descriptions

on biblical terms , there is NONE wise nor good except the Lord

so thats not the context I use the terms in

in terms of one who has wisdom as opposed to one who is ALWAYS wise,,,all elders are wise


'And I hope that five years and 10 years from now, I'll be a better man, a more mature man, a wiser man, a more humble man and a more spirited man to serve the good of my people and the good of humanity.
'
....wise from ANY MAN,, this quote is from Farrakhan


I am hoping that in this year of the family we will go into our families and reconcile differences.
..wise from ANY man, this quote is from Farrakhan


There really can be no peace without justice. There can be no justice without truth. And there can be no truth, unless someone rises up to tell you the truth.
..wise from ANY man, this quote is from Farrakhan



You must recognize that the way to get the good out of your brother and your sister is not to return evil for evil.
..wise from ANY man, this quote is from Farrakhan



,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

willing2's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:49 PM





,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

Perhaps the pages and pages of the wisdom of Duke should be shoved down throats?

Eugene is a bigoted hater.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:52 PM






,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

Perhaps the pages and pages of the wisdom of Duke should be shoved down throats?

Eugene is a bigoted hater.


I hear much more 'hate' from those who label him while knowing so little about him ,,,,,,and not TRYING to learn anything more,,,


willing2's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:53 PM







,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

Perhaps the pages and pages of the wisdom of Duke should be shoved down throats?

Eugene is a bigoted hater.


I hear much more 'hate' from those who label him while knowing so little about him ,,,,,,and not TRYING to learn anything more,,,



Eugene spews hate.
I post videos and fact.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:55 PM








,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

Perhaps the pages and pages of the wisdom of Duke should be shoved down throats?

Eugene is a bigoted hater.


I hear much more 'hate' from those who label him while knowing so little about him ,,,,,,and not TRYING to learn anything more,,,



Eugene spews hate.
I post videos and fact.



videos are a few moments out of millions in ones life,,they can show whatever side the poster seeks to advertise,,,,

but projection often returns hate from hateful minds,,,

willing2's photo
Sat 01/05/13 04:59 PM









,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

Perhaps the pages and pages of the wisdom of Duke should be shoved down throats?

Eugene is a bigoted hater.


I hear much more 'hate' from those who label him while knowing so little about him ,,,,,,and not TRYING to learn anything more,,,



Eugene spews hate.
I post videos and fact.



videos are a few moments out of millions in ones life,,they can show whatever side the poster seeks to advertise,,,,

but projection often returns hate from hateful minds,,,

No matter what video of Eugene and his hate filled rants are posted, he is still hating on and wants dead whitey and the Jew. Not to mention the homosexers.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 05:08 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 01/05/13 05:09 PM










,,,there are pages and pages of such wisdom from Farrakhan, as IM sure those with sincere interest could find at least one such page of words from ANY and EVERY human being, regardless of how much we disagree with their lifestyle/choices/politics

Perhaps the pages and pages of the wisdom of Duke should be shoved down throats?

Eugene is a bigoted hater.


I hear much more 'hate' from those who label him while knowing so little about him ,,,,,,and not TRYING to learn anything more,,,



Eugene spews hate.
I post videos and fact.



videos are a few moments out of millions in ones life,,they can show whatever side the poster seeks to advertise,,,,

but projection often returns hate from hateful minds,,,

No matter what video of Eugene and his hate filled rants are posted, he is still hating on and wants dead whitey and the Jew. Not to mention the homosexers.



and some people hate on and want young black youths/poor youths dead,,,,perhaps that is why such people so easily spot 'hate' in others

I spot people with different experiences which lead them to different perceptions of life,,,

willing2's photo
Sat 01/05/13 05:11 PM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 01/05/13 05:12 PM
Calypso Gene

If you want to be happy and live a king's life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
If you want to be happy and live a king's life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
All you gotta do is just as I say
And then you would be jolly, merry and gay
That's from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you.

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
Ah mean, and very often cause his downfall
As soon as she marry, there and then she'll start
To do the things that would break his heart
When you think that she's belonging to you
She's calling somebody else doudou too
Therefore from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you.

But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
You can be sure you'll be happy in all your life
For she would never do things in a funny way
To allow the neighbours to have anything to say
And she wouldn't disregard her husband at all
By exhibiting herself to Peter and Paul
So from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you

An ugly woman gives you your meals on time
And always try to make you happy in mind
At nights when you lay up on your cozy bed
She will coax, caress you and scratch your head
And like a bird call you nice names as "silver beak",
"Toy", "chick" or even "sucrier martinique"
So from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you

Matters not your friends might say that you have no taste
But love an ugly woman about this place
One who is cute looking, barbarous and rough
With a skin like alligator, humpy and tough
Yampee, --------------- her eye
And around her lips a Confirmation bow tie
So from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you.

msharmony's photo
Sat 01/05/13 05:21 PM

Calypso Gene

If you want to be happy and live a king's life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
If you want to be happy and live a king's life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
All you gotta do is just as I say
And then you would be jolly, merry and gay
That's from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you.

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
Ah mean, and very often cause his downfall
As soon as she marry, there and then she'll start
To do the things that would break his heart
When you think that she's belonging to you
She's calling somebody else doudou too
Therefore from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you.

But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
You can be sure you'll be happy in all your life
For she would never do things in a funny way
To allow the neighbours to have anything to say
And she wouldn't disregard her husband at all
By exhibiting herself to Peter and Paul
So from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you

An ugly woman gives you your meals on time
And always try to make you happy in mind
At nights when you lay up on your cozy bed
She will coax, caress you and scratch your head
And like a bird call you nice names as "silver beak",
"Toy", "chick" or even "sucrier martinique"
So from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you

Matters not your friends might say that you have no taste
But love an ugly woman about this place
One who is cute looking, barbarous and rough
With a skin like alligator, humpy and tough
Yampee, --------------- her eye
And around her lips a Confirmation bow tie
So from a logical point of view
Always love a woman uglier than you.



a song that goes back to the 30s in calypso music

when farrakhan would not have yet even been school aged

but when he no doubt first heard it,,,

and decided to record it as a twenty year old in the fifties,,,


..he is now EIGHTY years old

willing2's photo
Sun 01/06/13 05:32 AM
I have a challenge for MH.
Please, provide us with one video where Eugene isn't whining about how oppresed the negro is or talking about the jew, white devil, homosexer, or dissing other groups he doesn't like.
Just one will do. In 85 years there has to be one, no?

msharmony's photo
Sun 01/06/13 09:16 AM

I have a challenge for MH.
Please, provide us with one video where Eugene isn't whining about how oppresed the negro is or talking about the jew, white devil, homosexer, or dissing other groups he doesn't like.
Just one will do. In 85 years there has to be one, no?



here is the issue with that proposal
its not likely, Farrakhan has had a 'youtube' video posted where black people are not a topic, anymore than you could find such a video of a US President, where US policy or interest wasnt a topic


I doubt Farrakhan can speak of black people in any context without being perceived by some to be 'whining', just BECAUSE he is speaking about black people

here are two videos,, topical, but both mention black people because its relevant to the discussion at hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw001Jqz7HY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ir7yxZE48

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 01/06/13 10:08 AM
Old Lou is the Devil!pitchfork