I think one of the worst things we can do is stereotype people. I'll grant you that there are a lot of loose screws on both sides of the gun debate, but you'll find them on both sides of any debate.

In any debate or issue, we should rely on logic and reason. This is especially important regarding the debate on guns and the second amendment. I've played the gun advocate in this debate because I've looked at the issue of gun ownership for years and I've made some critical observations, but before I get into those, I think instead of digging into the foxholes for an extended battle, both sides should really look at the other's POV and find the commonalities that may put an end to much of the stereotyping. So let's take a poll and see how both sides answer.

Pro/anti-gun people hate to see innocent people killed. T/F

1) Guns convey great power. T/F

2) Guns come with great responsibility. T/F

3) Mentally ill/incompetent people should not have guns. T/F

4) Violent criminals should not have guns. T/F

5) Everyone has the right to defend themselves by any reasonable means. T/F

6) Violent criminals will always have guns no matter what laws are in place. T/F

7) Anyone owning a gun should be well trained in its safe handling, maintenance and use. T/F

8) Not having the means to save lives means being helpless to do so and possibly letting people die. T/F

If we are logical, the answer in all cases would be "T" no matter which side of the gun debate we are on.

Because of 6), 5) gives everyone but the 3)'s & 4)s the right to have and carry guns, but with that right comes 2) because of 1) and therefore 7), which may spare them from the regret of 8).


Whether you love them or hate them, guns are a fact of life that can't be ignored or legislated out of existence. I'm sure both sides of the gun debate want to see sensible gun laws. All 8 of the above items demand it. The usual reactionary crap the legislative bodies produce just isn't cutting it. These are not stupid people, so I have to ask myself, why are they passing stupid laws instead of sensible ones. It makes me suspect a darker agenda, but maybe that's just me.

In any event, I think BOTH sides of the debate should get together over their commonalites and deluge their reps (with a petition too?) with a demand for SENSIBLE, SANE gun laws to replace the ill-thought-out, reactionary crap they are about to try to stuff down everyone's throat. You can even get together and suggest the laws they should implement on a national petition.

I just see a parent who lost a child,,,,,I know when I lost my first marriage I would switch off from laughing to crying for quite a while after

I cant imagine the proper reaction after losing a CHILD,,,,

Pro/anti-gun people hate to see innocent people killed. T/F

1) Guns convey great power. T

2) Guns come with great responsibility. T

3) Mentally ill/incompetent people should not have guns. T

4) Violent criminals should not have guns. T

5) Everyone has the right to defend themselves by any reasonable means. T

6) Violent criminals will always have guns no matter what laws are in place. T (I would have said, anyone sufficiently motivated to kill will find a way, but sure . . .T)

7) Anyone owning a gun should be well trained in its safe handling, maintenance and use. T (True, but who is the arbitrator of what the standards are, NOT THE GOVT WHO THINKS AN ASSAULT WEAPON IS ANYTHING SUFFICIENTLY SCARY LOOKING)

8) Not having the means to save lives means being helpless to do so and possibly letting people die. T

I just see a parent who lost a child,,,,,I know when I lost my first marriage I would switch off from laughing to crying for quite a while after

I cant imagine the proper reaction after losing a CHILD,,,,

How can we promise the children of their safety with gun crazies who will insist on more guns to take more little lives?

How can we promise the children of their safety with gun crazies who will insist on more guns to take more little lives?

...By having loving, caring, responsible parents & teachers who will insist on more guns to take out the gun crazies with.

The gun crazies are the ones wanting more guns so they want to turn the teachers into gun crazies too.

Not a good fix....stupidity.

The gun crazies are the ones wanting more guns so they want to turn the teachers into gun crazies too.

Not a good fix....stupidity.

Is it more ok to kill 175 innocent kids with bombs?
That barely made the news
IMO, they were both actions were acts of malice.

wasnt his mother the first to die

"But what can be done to prevent an unknown threat, as Adam Lanza was? When interviewed, people who knew Lanza and his mother said the same thing, that nothing about Adam Lanza made them believe that he was capable of an act of violence"


its now coming out that she told friends he was troubled and she was worried about him, that he didnt seem to feel physical pain and had been burning himself,,,,


I have tranquility everyday, because I know crap happens, but I also know alot of the crap that happens is preventable,,,

God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change
Courage to change the things we can
and the Wisdom to know the difference


we can change how we pay attention to our loved ones
we can change how we help the emotionally and mentally unstable
we can change how accessible our weapons are and how destructive,,,

we cant change what happened to the shooter and his victims,,,only learn from it,,,

The gun crazies are the ones wanting more guns so they want to turn the teachers into gun crazies too.

Not a good fix....stupidity.

more access to guns

any mother who would permit a clearly troubled young man free access to a bushmaster needs HER head examined