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Topic: Was 9/11 an 'inside job?' - Poll
Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 01:32 PM
As far as the money the Bush family made from the Iraq war, that is all a matter of RECORD. I'm sure the exact figures are not even near the true amount. What is a matter of record is that various companies that members of the Bush family had either once sat on the board, or still do made money out of reconstruction contracts, etc. That is a more accurate appraisal. The actual figures are merely speculation as it hasn't been demonstrated that any amount actually found its way to the family directly. I know many sites have blown this out of proportion, or jumped to conclusions, but the facts as we know them aren't really all that incriminating. Most criminals aren't really all that honest about their income. I don't know if there has even been any kind of investigation into the financial affairs of the criminal Elite, and why would there be? They are of course experts at hiding their money. But the Bush family has been into oil, guns, drugs, etc. for several generations. Brought to trial? No, of course not. When criminals run the court systems, own the politicians, how would that be possible? Also, I'm sure most of the criminal acts are all done within the law. Just like how the Bankers steal money. Its all legal. They just take your money and then go bankrupt. and the courts let them off. are you going to post some concrete Proof,or are you going to drag around Red Herrings forever?

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Tue 10/30/12 01:32 PM
As far as the money the Bush family made from the Iraq war, that is all a matter of RECORD. I'm sure the exact figures are not even near the true amount. What is a matter of record is that various companies that members of the Bush family had either once sat on the board, or still do made money out of reconstruction contracts, etc. That is a more accurate appraisal. The actual figures are merely speculation as it hasn't been demonstrated that any amount actually found its way to the family directly. I know many sites have blown this out of proportion, or jumped to conclusions, but the facts as we know them aren't really all that incriminating. and really only serves as a Red Herring to tie Bush and CO to the events of 9/11! Well, I can see how someone might use that to justify the notion that 9/11 was planned to make money by using it as a 'false flag' operation to invade Iraq. The premise though, is just nonsensical in its logic.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 01:37 PM
Al Qaeda chides Iran over 9/11 'conspiracy theories' President Ahmadinejad speaks to UN General Assembly on 22 September President Ahmadinejad told world leaders of his beliefs about the 9/11 attacks Al-Qaeda has accused Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of spreading "conspiracy theories" about the 9/11 attacks in 2001. Inspire, an al-Qaeda-linked online magazine, described Mr Ahmadinejad's controversial speech to the United Nations last week as "ridiculous". The Iranian leader said he believed the World Trade Center towers could not have been brought down by aircraft. The article said such a belief "stands in the face of all logic and evidence". Entitled "Iran and the Conspiracy Theories", the Inspire article said Iran used the theory "as a rallying call for the millions of Muslims around the world who despise America". Iran "is a collaborator with the US when it suits it" nonetheless, the Yemen-based author said. There have been sharp sectarian tensions between mainly Shia Iran and Sunni Muslim al-Qaeda - although are both fiercely opposed to US influence. Mr Ahmadinejad's speech last Thursday triggered a walkout from the General Assembly by diplomats from more than 30 countries. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15097317

HotRodDeluxe Joined Sun 05/06/12 Posts: 2743	Tue 10/30/12 01:39 PM
As far as the money the Bush family made from the Iraq war, that is all a matter of RECORD. I'm sure the exact figures are not even near the true amount. What is a matter of record is that various companies that members of the Bush family had either once sat on the board, or still do made money out of reconstruction contracts, etc. That is a more accurate appraisal. The actual figures are merely speculation as it hasn't been demonstrated that any amount actually found its way to the family directly. I know many sites have blown this out of proportion, or jumped to conclusions, but the facts as we know them aren't really all that incriminating. Most criminals aren't really all that honest about their income. I don't know if there has even been any kind of investigation into the financial affairs of the criminal Elite, and why would there be? They are of course experts at hiding their money. But the Bush family has been into oil, guns, drugs, etc. for several generations. Brought to trial? No, of course not. When criminals run the court systems, own the politicians, how would that be possible? Also, I'm sure most of the criminal acts are all done within the law. Just like how the Bankers steal money. Its all legal. They just take your money and then go bankrupt. and the courts let them off. How criminals launder and use creative accounting is common knowledge, but that doesn't prove a thing about the Bush family. The assumptions: The Bush family wanted to make money out of restoration contracts awarded to various companies they have a finacial interest in. So, they needed a reason to start a war with Iraq. They devise a plot to bring down the WTC as a pretext to initiate an invasion. They use Al Qaeda as the culprit and then go after Afghanistan and the Taliban. Later, manipulating the UN into acting upon the many resolutions violated by Hussein, they finally get to invade Iraq and realise their evil plan. I mean, seriously?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 01:40 PM
As far as the money the Bush family made from the Iraq war, that is all a matter of RECORD. I'm sure the exact figures are not even near the true amount. What is a matter of record is that various companies that members of the Bush family had either once sat on the board, or still do made money out of reconstruction contracts, etc. That is a more accurate appraisal. The actual figures are merely speculation as it hasn't been demonstrated that any amount actually found its way to the family directly. I know many sites have blown this out of proportion, or jumped to conclusions, but the facts as we know them aren't really all that incriminating. Most criminals aren't really all that honest about their income. I don't know if there has even been any kind of investigation into the financial affairs of the criminal Elite, and why would there be? They are of course experts at hiding their money. But the Bush family has been into oil, guns, drugs, etc. for several generations. Brought to trial? No, of course not. When criminals run the court systems, own the politicians, how would that be possible? Also, I'm sure most of the criminal acts are all done within the law. Just like how the Bankers steal money. Its all legal. They just take your money and then go bankrupt. and the courts let them off. are you going to post some concrete Proof,or are you going to drag around Red Herrings forever? No I'm not. Its a waste of my time.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 01:42 PM
As far as the money the Bush family made from the Iraq war, that is all a matter of RECORD. I'm sure the exact figures are not even near the true amount. What is a matter of record is that various companies that members of the Bush family had either once sat on the board, or still do made money out of reconstruction contracts, etc. That is a more accurate appraisal. The actual figures are merely speculation as it hasn't been demonstrated that any amount actually found its way to the family directly. I know many sites have blown this out of proportion, or jumped to conclusions, but the facts as we know them aren't really all that incriminating. Most criminals aren't really all that honest about their income. I don't know if there has even been any kind of investigation into the financial affairs of the criminal Elite, and why would there be? They are of course experts at hiding their money. But the Bush family has been into oil, guns, drugs, etc. for several generations. Brought to trial? No, of course not. When criminals run the court systems, own the politicians, how would that be possible? Also, I'm sure most of the criminal acts are all done within the law. Just like how the Bankers steal money. Its all legal. They just take your money and then go bankrupt. and the courts let them off. How criminals launder and use creative accounting is common knowledge, but that doesn't prove a thing about the Bush family. The assumptions: The Bush family wanted to make money out of restoration contracts awarded to various companies they have a finacial interest in. So, they needed a reason to start a war with Iraq. They devise a plot to bring down the WTC as a pretext to initiate an invasion. They use Al Qaeda as the culprit and then go after Afghanistan and the Taliban. Later, manipulating the UN into acting upon the many resolutions violated by Hussein, they finally get to invade Iraq and realise their evil plan. I mean, seriously? That is what you think I am saying? You clearly don't see the big picture. The money made by the Bush family was just a small part of the game. You know its just a game don't you?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 01:43 PM
As far as the money the Bush family made from the Iraq war, that is all a matter of RECORD. I'm sure the exact figures are not even near the true amount. What is a matter of record is that various companies that members of the Bush family had either once sat on the board, or still do made money out of reconstruction contracts, etc. That is a more accurate appraisal. The actual figures are merely speculation as it hasn't been demonstrated that any amount actually found its way to the family directly. I know many sites have blown this out of proportion, or jumped to conclusions, but the facts as we know them aren't really all that incriminating. Most criminals aren't really all that honest about their income. I don't know if there has even been any kind of investigation into the financial affairs of the criminal Elite, and why would there be? They are of course experts at hiding their money. But the Bush family has been into oil, guns, drugs, etc. for several generations. Brought to trial? No, of course not. When criminals run the court systems, own the politicians, how would that be possible? Also, I'm sure most of the criminal acts are all done within the law. Just like how the Bankers steal money. Its all legal. They just take your money and then go bankrupt. and the courts let them off. How criminals launder and use creative accounting is common knowledge, but that doesn't prove a thing about the Bush family. The assumptions: The Bush family wanted to make money out of restoration contracts awarded to various companies they have a finacial interest in. So, they needed a reason to start a war with Iraq. They devise a plot to bring down the WTC as a pretext to initiate an invasion. They use Al Qaeda as the culprit and then go after Afghanistan and the Taliban. Later, manipulating the UN into acting upon the many resolutions violated by Hussein, they finally get to invade Iraq and realise their evil plan. I mean, seriously? That is what you think I am saying? You clearly don't see the big picture. The money made by the Bush family was just a small part of the game. You know its just a game don't you? Assertions! Many! Concrete Proof! NONE!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 01:45 PM
That's exactly right. I can say the same thing about the official account pandered by our government about 9-11 and most everything else they lie about. Liars all of them.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 01:48 PM
That's exactly right. I can say the same thing about the official account pandered by our government about 9-11 and most everything else they lie about. Liars all of them. but you need to bring proof! You been saying for ages now!

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 01:52 PM
That's exactly right. I can say the same thing about the official account pandered by our government about 9-11 and most everything else they lie about. Liars all of them. but you need to bring proof! You been saying for ages now! I'm still waiting for proof regarding the official story. That is what they want people to believe right? Yet... they avoid the hard questions. Everything is "classified." What a bunch of crap.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 01:54 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 10/30/12 01:56 PM
Why it is not my responsibility to provide proof: There are two many criminals and I am not paid to bring criminals to justice. It is not my job. If what I say is a lie, let them sue me for libel. (But they would have to sue thousands of people...)

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 01:58 PM
Why it is not my responsibility to provide proof: There are two many criminals and I am not paid to bring criminals to justice. It is not my job. If what I say is a lie, let them sue me for libel. (But they would have to sue thousands of people...) you make claims! Prove them!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 02:04 PM
Conspiracy theorists deny 9-11 anniversary 09-09-11 SEPTEMBER 11th conspiracy theorists have dismissed claims of the terrorist attack’s 10th anniversary. Turner has written a 1200-page book about how this photograph was faked The theorists fall into two distinct camps, with one group claiming that 9-11 happened many years ago, possibly as early as 1922, and another group claiming the event happened in 2007. Conspiracy theorist, Joseph Turner, said: “The media have convinced you that this is the 10th anniversary. You need to think for yourself. And anyway, just look at the footage. Those types of airliners weren’t even in use 10 years ago.” But truth-seeker ‘blackop182′, editor of the ‘Nine-e-Lie-Ven’ blog, insisted the footage of the planes hitting the towers was taken far earlier. “My guess would be the summer of 1972. It was organised by G. Gordon Liddy and an anti-Castro Cuban operative known only as ‘El Pequeno’. “Also the dating here relies on the Julian calendar, which didn’t come into effect until 2005. “Also there’s no way they could have destroyed the World Trade Centre, because there’s no World Trade Centre in New York. If there is then show it to me.” He added: “Basically, saying it happened 10 years ago is a ridiculous anachronism. Like saying Jesus Christ rode around on a Triceratops. “Actually, not that, because I believe Jesus actually did that. Something else.” http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/conspiracy-theorists-deny-9-11-anniversary-201109094287

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 02:17 PM
http://911booger.blogspot.ch/2007/09/paxil-sales-to-911-truthers-jumps.html 9/11 Truthers praise Maher for "giving us the right drug for 9/11 Truth." Lines form at Ground Zero area drugstores. (BNN - September 15, 2007 - New York City.) Bill Maher's announcement last night that 9/11 Truthers should "...start asking your doctor if Paxil is right for you," caused a sensation at New York City hospitals late last night and early this morning. "Suddenly, our ER started filling up with young, bedraggled twenty-somethings, all begging for prescriptions for Paxil," said, John Berliner, spokesperson for Bellevue Hospital. "They said it was unfair to keep them waiting for the "truth" till Monday when their own doctors' offices re-open - whatever the hell that means. We filled their prescriptions just to get rid of them." In his "New Rules" section Maher said: New Rule: Crazy people who still think the government brought down the Twin Towers in a controlled explosion have to stop pretending that I'm the one that's being naïve. How big a lunatic do you have to be to watch two giant airliners packed with jet fuel slam into buildings on live TV igniting a massive inferno that burned for two hours and then think, "Well, if you believe that was the cause?" Stop asking me to raise this ridiculous topic on this show and start asking your doctor if Paxil is right for you. Nico Haupt, spokesperson for the growing "no planer" faction of the 9/11 Truth Movement, said this was the sign he was waiting for. "Ve know dat drugs will show us die 9/11 truth. Ve just didn't know VICH drugs." According to medical literature, Paxil is effective in relieving anxiety and symptoms associated with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, long considered by psychologists to be the foundation of the 9/11 Truth Movement and other societal disorders. Ask to comment on the long line of 9/11 Truthers at his door, New York City pharmacist, Dirk Veersten, said, "Heh... whatever works to get them off the streets." Posted by b. j. edwards at 9/15/2007 01:01:00 PM

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 02:56 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 10/30/12 02:59 PM
Insisting that the official account about the attack on 9-11 is the truth over and over does not make it so and will not convince anyone. I have been reading the NIST reports and they claim that there were no witnesses that heard explosions... which is a big fat lie. There were witnesses that not only heard explosions but were injured by them, before the planes ever hit the towers. All of this has been covered up. Making fun of people who ask questions and don't believe the lying corrupt government and telling them they need drugs is beyond stupid. The world has gone completely mad if they believe anything Bill Maher has to say. He is a comedian. The world has gone completely mad if they believe the major media, or the politicians running this country. I'm glad to know there are many people who don't. As I look around at the rest of what is going on I do see that 9-11 is just a tiny piece of it and they want us to forget about it and just let it be business as usual. They will get their business as usual, but I don't think people are going to forget about it.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 03:08 PM
Insisting that the official account about the attack on 9-11 is the truth over and over does not make it so and will not convince anyone. I have been reading the NIST reports and they claim that there were no witnesses that heard explosions... which is a big fat lie. There were witnesses that not only heard explosions but were injured by them, before the planes ever hit the towers. All of this has been covered up. Making fun of people who ask questions and don't believe the lying corrupt government and telling them they need drugs is beyond stupid. The world has gone completely mad if they believe anything Bill Maher has to say. He is a comedian. The world has gone completely mad if they believe the major media, or the politicians running this country. I'm glad to know there are many people who don't. As I look around at the rest of what is going on I do see that 9-11 is just a tiny piece of it and they want us to forget about it and just let it be business as usual. They will get their business as usual, but I don't think people are going to forget about it. and why should we take your assertions for Evidence? Have you ever posted any Facts?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 03:13 PM
By a Friend of mine! Name with-held!(Yep,start the Conspiracy-Theory,PRONTO) I've followed this off and on for years and the one constant thing is that every time one of these "truths" are exposed for the lies that they are, the story changes to tout another "truth" There's no logic, rhyme or reason in any of this. One could argue that elements of the USG could theoretically be willing to do almost anythng for political reasons but the ability to do such a thing without risk of exposure would be and is impossible given the number of co-conspirators necessary to accomplish such a task. Having worked in the governement and with many of those type people who would have done the job, I can say with absolute certainty, not one of the people I know would have participated in such a thing and had they been duped into it, they would have exposed it long ago. In short, Jason Bourne, Operation Treadstone & Black Briar do not exists. BTW, neither does James Bond, Mission Impossible or any other half-baked crap they're exporting from Hollywood.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 03:14 PM
Insisting that the official account about the attack on 9-11 is the truth over and over does not make it so and will not convince anyone. I have been reading the NIST reports and they claim that there were no witnesses that heard explosions... which is a big fat lie. There were witnesses that not only heard explosions but were injured by them, before the planes ever hit the towers. All of this has been covered up. Making fun of people who ask questions and don't believe the lying corrupt government and telling them they need drugs is beyond stupid. The world has gone completely mad if they believe anything Bill Maher has to say. He is a comedian. The world has gone completely mad if they believe the major media, or the politicians running this country. I'm glad to know there are many people who don't. As I look around at the rest of what is going on I do see that 9-11 is just a tiny piece of it and they want us to forget about it and just let it be business as usual. They will get their business as usual, but I don't think people are going to forget about it. and why should we take your assertions for Evidence? Have you ever posted any Facts? I don't know. Is there such a thing as a fact? I doubt it.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 10/30/12 03:16 PM
Insisting that the official account about the attack on 9-11 is the truth over and over does not make it so and will not convince anyone. I have been reading the NIST reports and they claim that there were no witnesses that heard explosions... which is a big fat lie. There were witnesses that not only heard explosions but were injured by them, before the planes ever hit the towers. All of this has been covered up. Making fun of people who ask questions and don't believe the lying corrupt government and telling them they need drugs is beyond stupid. The world has gone completely mad if they believe anything Bill Maher has to say. He is a comedian. The world has gone completely mad if they believe the major media, or the politicians running this country. I'm glad to know there are many people who don't. As I look around at the rest of what is going on I do see that 9-11 is just a tiny piece of it and they want us to forget about it and just let it be business as usual. They will get their business as usual, but I don't think people are going to forget about it. and why should we take your assertions for Evidence? Have you ever posted any Facts? I don't know. Is there such a thing as a fact? I doubt it. so what are you debating for?

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 10/30/12 03:19 PM
Insisting that the official account about the attack on 9-11 is the truth over and over does not make it so and will not convince anyone. I have been reading the NIST reports and they claim that there were no witnesses that heard explosions... which is a big fat lie. There were witnesses that not only heard explosions but were injured by them, before the planes ever hit the towers. All of this has been covered up. Making fun of people who ask questions and don't believe the lying corrupt government and telling them they need drugs is beyond stupid. The world has gone completely mad if they believe anything Bill Maher has to say. He is a comedian. The world has gone completely mad if they believe the major media, or the politicians running this country. I'm glad to know there are many people who don't. As I look around at the rest of what is going on I do see that 9-11 is just a tiny piece of it and they want us to forget about it and just let it be business as usual. They will get their business as usual, but I don't think people are going to forget about it. and why should we take your assertions for Evidence? Have you ever posted any Facts? I don't know. Is there such a thing as a fact? I doubt it. so what are you debating for? Is that what I am doing?