Topic: What would it take tomake you believe? | |
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I would believe in God if it made any sense. I'm willing to believe in concepts that don't make sense, but then those ideas need to prove their usefulness. For me, believing in God means believing in a creator. That doesn't make sense, nor does it yield any useful model of reality. Now this is epic! |
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Believe What? Atheists that I know came to their realization by using logic and deductive reasoning. The question really should be, how does the "believer" arrive at his conclusion? More likely, he just blindly accept the myth that has been handed down to him by accident of birth. very well said |
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If god wasn't faith based and he actually manifested himself
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It would take me never suffering another hardship in my life & a beautiful woman come to me & say"god has sent me to you you are my life my love forevermore now I am the gift from god you said he needed to send you to restore your belief. I love you I am now your wife we will be together until you die & then you will have a harem after you die."
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I did believe once .
But then bad things happend and I looked around I noticed what a cruel world we live in and how cruel people are. I don't believe in god But if he excist I think I would turn to the devil and not god ! Cause Waow god is evil |
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even if he was real how would that give life meaning god could exist and life could still suck i just never understood that
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What would it take?
First, define God, and not with forty million definitions, one or two that are accurate would suffice. Then, show me God, and not forty thousand, or forty thousand versions of him I should say, but with empirical evidence. Then, show me heaven, then give me just five minutes of question time. At the end I'd probably believe one or more existed. I simply wouldn't follow all of their rules. |
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Yeah, I was raised Baptist and started asking questions about that age. By the time I was 10 I knew that if god was real, he wasn't all that good. |
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Edited by
midnighttoker11
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Mon 08/18/14 02:24 PM
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Yeah, I was raised Baptist and started asking questions about that age. By the time I was 10 I knew that if god was real, he wasn't all that good. |
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Edited by
techart1966
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Thu 09/04/14 09:25 PM
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Nice list shijinchan.
I would add a question like why didn't you stop Hitler and most other heinous events throughout history? |
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The answer I always get as to why a god wouldn't stop horrible things from happening (holocaust, natural disasters, pain and suffering in general) is sin.
And nothing could make me believe in God. Science. |
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Quantifiable, testable, measurable evidence. That is all and if I had that then I'd have somewhere to start, given that there has been a million dollars up for grabs for the same as my appropriate proof requirements and not 1 single person on the planet has fulfilled the requirement I conclude their is no God therefore the question is of itself a non sequitur ... sorry
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Two words.......Babel Fish
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That's easy, an appearance. And not just to me but, a public appearance. That would give me proof of its existence as well as proof that I'm not hallucinating. Billions of people hearing and seeing the same being. Short of this, nothing would get me to believe.
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Yeah, I was raised Baptist and started asking questions about that age. By the time I was 10 I knew that if god was real, he wasn't all that good. That's about what it would take to get me to believe. I have two simple conditions: 1) Proof that the given deity does, in fact, exist. 2) That the given deity is worth worshipping. The second condition is actually somewhat harder to satisfy, because the deity or the deity's believers would have to prove to me that the deity has my best interests at heart, that the deity abides by a moral code similar to mine, and the deity chooses to act on my behalf sometimes. |
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At this point there isnt enough evidence in the world to convince me there is a God or supreme deity. The evidence against it is too strong and conflicting, for me, anyway.
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I was forced to go to procial school as a child where they used the typical religious LIES and INTIMIDATIONS to scare you into believing their god ********. I stopped believing when I was 12yrs old when the Pastor came into my class naming each child that did not give enough offerings in his chapel services. I asked if your god is all powerful and can do anything why does he need money? The ****ing basturd grabbed me by the hair and jerked me out of the classroom and took me to his office and told me that I was condemming myself and my parents and grandparents to hell for asking such questions. I told the son of a ***** since he was older than me He would meet me in HELL when I got there!!!!!! I have never set foot in a ****ing church since! the only way I would believe in a god is if he killed all the right wing religious wingnuts!!!!!!!
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This was my experience, too, after my husband died two years ago. I belonged to an on-line grief group called "grief beyond belief," and one member posted an answer to the "he/she's watching over you bs. The answer is, "well, if that's true, how will s/he feel when I find someone new and s/he sees me making love to that person."
I tend to just say to such people that their belief may comfort them, but I don't believe their premise and one cannot make oneself believe. |
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Here's the problem with wanting proof of god, the system is rigged so that proof negates faith. That is to say, if you have proof you don't need faith, if you have faith you don't need proof. There will never be tangible proof of "god", there can't be. Faith and proof cannot coexist.
Me personally, I choose to accept testable theories that result in repeatable conclusions as opposed to "believing" in, what is in my opinion, a fairytale invented by bronze age goat herders that didn't know where the sun went at night. |
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A nice answer this question came from Matt Dillahunty -
"If there is a god, that god should know exactly what it would take to change my mind...and that god should be capable of doing whatever it would take." |
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