"WHERE" Ras gets his posted information is irrelevant IMO... as long as his posted information is correct and makes sense... and it does!
To bring this up, is childish to say the least. To bring up site rules as a pretext to stop someone from posting is despicable social behavior and should be addressed. A good healthy debate is what helps us understand each other better... Murking up the waters does not. If you're offended about the subject or you believe the material is false, you're free to post your own truths here.

not a problem, I actually enjoy your posts, although comical at the most, irrelevent at the least, I understand that even a recessive mind needs to express itself. But in regards to Columbus, he is waiting for Sundusky to join him.

yep,that Honorable Nation Of Islam Calypso-Singer who has Blood on his hands himself!
Probably will join Colon ad Sandusky in the not too distant Future!

which is why most times I just post as a means of sharing information, which is one reason to post, debate comes from opposing view points in regards to that information. Many take curtain post personal when they feel their prior beliefs are no longer feasible thinking. As a defense mechanism, they deflect by going south. As the character of "Dragnet" would say, "the facts ma'am, just the facts".

I highly doubt it, considering he is not in prison nor ever charged with a crime, whereas Columbus is a celebrated hero for his role in the indian slave trade, rapes, and genocide. By the way, this thread is about the American Holocaust, not NOI. Obsession is a irrational responce to a more underlying issue one should address.

He is a Louse no matter how you look at him!
As prejudiced as any of the Whiteys he's accusing of Racism!
Leader of the Insane Clown Posse!
If you feel justified to spread his insanity here,well,your problem,but at least source it,so we know it is coming from the sick mind of the "Honorable" Minister of the Nation of Islam!

Some people will use anything and everything to stifle information they do not want to hear or be published for others to hear.

Its not rocket science.....Millions of Native Americans were massacred.

This is about the American Holocaust, your obsession with the off topic issues you raise is irrelivent. History clearly documents the events in regards to the mass genocide, of native Americans. You dont need anything to research the Dawes Act. The Indian Removal act, those are documented historical facts. Research is the best confirmation of any historical event. Going off topic will only maintain your present level of obsession towards someone who never raped, murdered, or committed a crime. Personally I admire the man, while most defend and celebrate a man who raped, murdered children threw deseases, commited mass genocide that Pol Pot would be proud of. Yet Columbus is honared, by the ignorant or just plain racists, whom have little in way of intellect to begin with.

Prove it!
Weren't you saying one Hundred million?

why not post the rest of the Article for context?

next thing we know they will accuse Columbus of having caused Global Warming!

Just genocide, rape and enslavement. That legacy is well documented.

Well that is a bit over the top.

Columbus certainly cannot be held responsible for everything that any
immigrant to North America ever did. What happened to the Native
Americans was a horrible tragedy but involved a large number of
immigrants from all the European countries which were colonizing
North and South America at the time. It is likely that many more were
killed and abused in South America than in North America actually.

The history of humankind is replete with such incidents of clashes of
cultures and dominance and one can decry them all from the Hawaiian
Islands to African slave trade and the Mongolian Invasion and the
Persian empire.

Fortunately many people survived to carry on some of the cultural
traditions and for that at least we can be grateful. And now we
can stand up against those who vow to "wipe" others from the face
of the map like Iran's and other Arab and radical Islamist promises
against the Jews of Israel. And we do stand up against such ignorant
extremism and expose such efforts as bigotry and hatred of the
vilest sort.

Couldn't find a Israeli lovin thread?

only thing Crap-Threads like this are designed for,is to drive People further apart!

http://mises.org/daily/5769/The-Calumny-against-Columbus

Because there is no limit to the credulity of left-liberals we now have this — within a few years of the arrival of Christopher Columbus to the New World all of the following happened:

1. a plague killed 90 million indigenous people of the United States,
2. which in turn led to the reforestation of North America,
3. which in turn sucked a lot of CO2 from the atmosphere,
4. which in turn started the Little Ice Age.

Yep, it was Columbus's fault.

The idea that there were about as many people living in North America at the time of the arrival of Columbus as there were at about the turn of the 19th into the 20th century is simply ridiculous.

In 1900, there were several cities with populations of more than a million, and dozens with populations of more than 100,000.

In order to feed those dwelling in these places and for other purposes, highways and railroads crisscrossed the country. To coordinate the economic activities of such a vast population required institutions of commerce and finance, in addition to this physical infrastructure.

Yet there is no archeological evidence of any city of more than 100,000 of the indigenous people of this country or anything like a road network; although, yes, there is archeological evidence of a few scattered large towns and some trails.

Nor was there any folklore of institutions, such as marketplaces and banks, needed by a vast economy, nor any folklore of a mass extinction.

Besides, the Vikings were in contact with the indigenous people of this country well before Christopher Columbus, and probably the Irish and Spanish as well, so that the dread diseases that befell the Europeans during the Dark Ages had already had opportunity to make their way across the Atlantic.

Even among the Europeans, the bubonic plaque is thought to have "only" wiped out one-third of the population, prior to the survivors developing a resistance to the disease, not anything like 90 percent fatalities.

The belief that North America suffered a mass extinction is simply a matter of politically correct multiculturalism. And, now, it has become grafted onto belief in anthropological global warming (AGW).

Of course, the irony of the ridiculous idea that Columbus caused the Little Ice Age is that, until it became utterly crazy for anybody to deny natural variation and to continue to insist upon the hockey-stick theory of climate change (that global temperature had been constant for more than a thousand years but, with the start of the Industrial Revolution, has been trending up), the AGWers were claiming there was no Little Ice Age, that the fall in temperature that was recorded by Europeans at that time was merely a local phenomenon.

The hockey stick, we now know, was constructed by so-called scientists who fudged the numbers. Oh, not that what they did was an ethical violation, said the faculty at Penn State University, as fudging the numbers must be AOK among leftists.

But long before we found out how the hockey stick got made, we were finding out from several dozen other proxies for temperature that temperatures around the world were fluctuating during the thousand years prior to the Industrial Revolution. So even if we never found out exactly how the hockey stick was constructed, we knew something was wrong with it.

The way the so-called scientists discovered that Christopher Columbus caused the Little Ice Age is this: they discovered charcoal remains suggesting that certain indigenous people cleared farm land by burning off trees. Well, duh?

Then (presuming that 90 million people subsisted on farms cleared by this method, and that those people died because of the Columbus plague) an area the size of California became reforested. This would have lowered global temperature by several degrees and resulted in the Little Ice Age.

Thus, the proof that Columbus started the Little Ice Age is based on the belief in the Columbus plague wiping out 90 million people combined with a belief that 90 million people lived on little, self-sufficient farms cleared by burning away trees, worked by stone tools, without the aid of work animals such as horses, and without coordination with others as would require roads, written language, marketplaces, and banking.

Just how totally ignorant of economics are these climatologists anyway?

Among the problems of the new theory that Christopher Columbus started the Little Ice Age is that, considering all the data that have not been held back by uncooperative so-called scientists, the cooling trend of which the Little Ice Age was the nadir started hundreds of years prior to the arrival of Columbus in the Americas, at the end of the Roman warm period. But, who knows, maybe the AGWers will figure out the reforestation of Europe after Rome was sacked by the Goths is what caused the cooling trend that culminated in the Little Ice Age.

On the other hand, perhaps we should simply accept the idea that Columbus caused the Little Ice Age. Then we could construct a few nuclear power plants so as to desalinate ocean water and pipe the desalinated water into the interior of Texas to irrigate desert land that totals in size to California. In this way, we could simply offset our continued use of fossil fuel, sucking the CO2 out of the atmosphere instead of trying not to release any more CO2 into it.

The Thread killers are out in force.

This thread is about the The American Holocaust of Native Americans.


Deal with it.....

The OP is false....There is no need to lie, the truth was bad enough...


Here is the conclusion from an article titled "WERE AMERICAN INDIANS THE VICTIMS OF GENOCIDE?"...A good read for anyone interested in a well capsuled version of the truth.....

In the end, the sad fate of America's Indians represents not a crime but a tragedy, involving an irreconcilable collision of cultures and values. Despite the efforts of well-meaning people in both camps, there existed no good solution to this clash. The Indians were not prepared to give up the nomadic life of the hunter for the sedentary life of the farmer. The new Americans, convinced of their cultural and racial superiority, were unwilling to grant the original inhabitants of the continent the vast preserve of land required by the Indians’ way of life. The consequence was a conflict in which there were few heroes, but which was far from a simple tale of hapless victims and merciless aggressors. To fling the charge of genocide at an entire society serves neither the interests of the Indians nor those of history.

http://hnn.us/articles/7302.html