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Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 10/08/12 08:45 AM
THE DAWES ACT: Massachusetts congressmen Henry L. Dawes drafted fderal legisslation enacted in 1887 which ordered the "registering" of Indians so that they can recieve an allotment of their own land. But to get on the "Dawes Rolles", Native Americans had to anglcize their names. This allowed White officials to slip the names of their relatives and friends onto the Dawes Rolles and reap millions of acres of land. In one state alone, the 138 million acres of Indian held land at the time of the Dawes Act in 1887 had been reduced to close to nothing by 1934, when the Act was repealed. Colombus never came to America, yet what followed was indeed a holocaust throughout North, central and south America, along with the caribean. Whether 100 million or less matters little. What is certain is from Colombus's own genocidal practices in the caribean, followed by France, the Dutch, English, and Portugues along with Spain, Holocaust is a fair and accurate description on the foundation of America. so,now America is responsible for the Action of all the European Powers in the Americas? Besides,the Original Post clearly states where the alleged Holocaust of a hundred Millions is supposed to have taken place,and no obfuscation changes that!

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/08/12 08:52 AM
Indians held slaves. Only as many as they could afford to feed. Used 'em for labor, sex, trading, target practice and bribery. So, the OP is defending slave traders Not all tribes where the same please do some research before you put us all in one stereotype!!! I just happen to be one of the 'Us' you is talkin' about. The pacifists got extincted. And, there was no such a thang as a vegan. They eat horse, dog, cat, snake, rats. Whatever it took to stay alive. Yes, they raided each other's tribes. Killed men, women and kids. Some of the hotter women were taken for slaves.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/08/12 08:53 AM
The Indian Removal Act is today highly controversial. While most European Americans during this time favored the passage of the Indian Removal Act, there was significant opposition. Many Christian missionaries, most notably missionary organizer Jeremiah Evarts, protested against passage of the Act. Future U.S. President Abraham Lincoln also opposed the Indian Removal Act. In Congress, New Jersey Senator Theodore Frelinghuysen and Congressman Davy Crockett of Tennessee spoke out against the legislation. The Removal Act was passed after bitter debate in Congress.[6]WIKI In the 1823 case of Johnson v. M'Intosh, the Supreme Court handed down a decision which stated that Indians could occupy lands within the United States, but could not hold title to those lands.[9] Jackson, as was common before the Civil War, viewed the union as a federation of sovereign states. He opposed Washington’s policy of establishing treaties with Indian tribes as if they were foreign nations. Thus, the creation of Indian jurisdictions was a violation of state sovereignty under Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution. As Jackson saw it either Indians comprise sovereign states (which violated the constitution) or they are subject to the laws of existing states of the Union. Jackson urged Indians to assimilate and obey state laws. He believed he could only accommodate the desire for Indian self-rule in federal territory and that required re-settlement west of the Mississippi River on federal land.[10][11][dubious – discuss] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Removal_Act The so called "significant opposition" was actually insignificant ij that the Indian Removal act was enacted in 1887, it was modified later to appease some oppisition by the later legislation of the Dawes Act which remained active until its repeal in 1934. From 1887 to 1934 was enough to take all the land. Finally, achknowledging American history does not indicate hatred for this country.

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Mon 10/08/12 09:22 AM
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Hubbard, a retired teacher and Vietnam veteran who was elected to the statehouse in 2010, also wrote, "Wouldn't life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education?" His book also says that blacks "are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa." Charles Fuqua of Batesville, Arkansas, is currently seeking a House of Representatives seat. His e-book "God's Law: The Only Political Solution" came out in April on Amazon. "I see no solution to the Muslim problem short of expelling all followers of the religion from the United States," he writes in his book, according to The Arkansas Times newspaper. Fuqua, an attorney, served as a state representative from 1995 to 1998 before losing a state senate race. Neither Hubbard nor Fuqua could be reached for comment. Both are running for election in November. The Republican Party of Arkansas denounced their comments and distanced itself from the two candidates. "The reported statements made by Hubbard and Fuqua were highly offensive to many Americans and do not reflect the viewpoints of the Republican Party of Arkansas," state party chairman Doyle Webb said in a statement on Saturday. But Webb also blamed Democrats for drawing attention to the two books, which he called "distractions." Candace Martin, spokeswoman for the Democratic Party of Arkansas, said that "with these appalling views, Jon Hubbard cannot be trusted to represent Arkansans and set policy for our state." Jay Barth, a political science professor at Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas, said the controversial comments were a throwback to the 1960s when Arkansas was a civil rights battleground. "It's hard to remember a set of remarks this extreme on racial matters by an Arkansas official since the state's politics modernized in the late 1960s than that by Mr. Hubbard," Barth said on Saturday. He added that Fuqua's writing created a particular challenge for Republicans because it made it more difficult to frame Hubbard's remarks as that of a single misguided party official. (Editing by Corrie MacLaggan, Alex Dobuzinskis and Paul Simao

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Mon 10/08/12 09:22 AM
And then this guy opens his mouth: A new kind of poll "American Mosaic” is Reuters’ unique campaign polling initiative for 2012, executed in partnership with Ipsos. American Mosaic Site \| Explainer Follow Reuters Facebook Twitter RSS YouTube RECOMMENDED VIDEO Kate Middleton's dancing cousin bares it all (1:29) A look at the UK’s most beautiful face (1:35) More people affected with rare meningitis (1:01) In Pennsylvania, a shipyard is back to life due to U.S… (ExxonMobil's Perspectives) The Impending Death Of The Light Bulb—And Why You… (OPEN Forum) [?] READ Venezuela's Chavez revels in convincing election win\| 12:07pm EDT1Pressure is on Biden after Obama's lackluster debate performance 07 Oct 20122Chavez supporters party on anticipated win in Venezuela vote 07 Oct 20123Lawmakers seek to block China's Huawei, ZTE inroads in U.S.\| 11:47am EDT4Alwaleed's Kingdom Holding plans up to $500 mln loan - sources 07 Oct 20125 DISCUSSED 252 Romney’s strong debate showing puts Europe on edge 157 Obama and Romney battle over economy at debate 154 Weak U.S. labor market looms ahead of elections SPONSORED LINKS WisdomTree DTN Ex-Financial Dividend ETF American Dividend ETF w/o Financial Stocks. Avoid Bank Stock Risks. Learn How. The Hottest Penny Stocks! Looking For Hot Penny Stock Picks Ready To Make a Huge Move? Look No Further... A Degree Fit For You Want A Better Tomorrow? Take the Next Step! Earn Your Degree Online Ads by Marchex PICTURES Reuters Photojournalism Our day's top images, in-depth photo essays and offbeat slices of life. See the best of Reuters photography. See more \| Photo caption Chavez victorious Hugo Chavez scored a comfortable election victory over Henrique Capriles, that could extend his rule to 20 years. Slideshow David Blaine electrifies Magician David Blaine stands on a 20-foot-high platform, channeling one million volts of electricity through tesla coils for 72 hours. Slideshow Arkansas Republicans' comments on slavery, Muslims stir controversy inShare Share this Email Print Analysis & Opinion The GOP and voter anger Are class action lawyers in Arkansas snubbing SCOTUS (and CAFA)? Related Topics U.S. » Politics » By Suzi Parker LITTLE ROCK, Ark \| Sat Oct 6, 2012 7:51pm EDT (Reuters) - Republicans in Arkansas are struggling to get past the controversy generated by a state lawmaker who wrote that slavery might have benefited blacks and a candidate who has advocated expelling Muslims from the United States. The Republican politicians' comments have been roundly criticized and have created an opportunity for Democrats ahead of the November 6 election. Arkansas has a Democratic governor but has voted Republican in the past three presidential elections. In his self-published 2009 book titled "Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative," state Representative Jon Hubbard of Jonesboro, Arkansas, writes that "the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise." Hubbard, a retired teacher and Vietnam veteran who was elected to the statehouse in 2010, also wrote, "Wouldn't life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education?" His book also says that blacks "are likely much better than they ever would have enjoyed living in sub-Saharan Africa." Charles Fuqua of Batesville, Arkansas, is currently seeking a House of Representatives seat. His e-book "God's Law: The Only Political Solution" came out in April on Amazon. "I see no solution to the Muslim problem short of expelling all followers of the religion from the United States," he writes in his book, according to The Arkansas Times newspaper. Fuqua, an attorney, served as a state representative from 1995 to 1998 before losing a state senate race. Neither Hubbard nor Fuqua could be reached for comment. Both are running for election in November. The Republican Party of Arkansas denounced their comments and distanced itself from the two candidates. "The reported statements made by Hubbard and Fuqua were highly offensive to many Americans and do not reflect the viewpoints of the Republican Party of Arkansas," state party chairman Doyle Webb said in a statement on Saturday. But Webb also blamed Democrats for drawing attention to the two books, which he called "distractions." Candace Martin, spokeswoman for the Democratic Party of Arkansas, said that "with these appalling views, Jon Hubbard cannot be trusted to represent Arkansans and set policy for our state." Jay Barth, a political science professor at Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas, said the controversial comments were a throwback to the 1960s when Arkansas was a civil rights battleground. "It's hard to remember a set of remarks this extreme on racial matters by an Arkansas official since the state's politics modernized in the late 1960s than that by Mr. Hubbard," Barth said on Saturday. He added that Fuqua's writing created a particular challenge for Republicans because it made it more difficult to frame Hubbard's remarks as that of a single misguided party official. (Editing by Corrie MacLaggan, Alex Dobuzinskis and Paul Simao

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Mon 10/08/12 09:30 AM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/08/12 12:16 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,,

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Mon 10/08/12 12:38 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,, Sorry but you can't compare something physical to a mindset.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/08/12 12:42 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,, Sorry but you can't compare something physical to a mindset. racism isnt just a mindset, racism MANIFESTS in discrimination and ACTIONS and INJUSTICES

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 10/08/12 01:12 PM
Indians held slaves. Only as many as they could afford to feed. Used 'em for labor, sex, trading, target practice and bribery. So, the OP is defending slave traders and holocaust perpetrators as they killed each other off to a drastic extreme as well the american indian fought among themselves and held their captives as slaves and sexual partners not to mention the practicing of torture and murder of their captives but hey what do i know

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 10/08/12 01:17 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,, if you fight among yourselves about these things you are distracted from the injustices that will soon be effecting you but hey what do i know

Ladylid2012 Joined Sun 07/05/09 Posts: 42269	Mon 10/08/12 01:21 PM


Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Mon 10/08/12 01:30 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,, Sorry but you can't compare something physical to a mindset. racism isnt just a mindset, racism MANIFESTS in discrimination and ACTIONS and INJUSTICES That doesn't disprove my point. If everyone I'm the world decided to change their mindset on racism it's gone overnight. The same can't be said for poverty.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 10/08/12 01:34 PM
Funny,he never got to the Northern part of America!Seems Vespucci didn't either!

Hikerjohn Joined Sun 08/19/12 Posts: 1028	Mon 10/08/12 01:34 PM
Well anyway, thanks again for the corn and turkey. If you’re in the neighborhood about this time next year, maybe we get the families together and we have another feast. We will cook. We just wanted to express our thankfulness. Who knows, maybe we can make it a tradition.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 10/08/12 01:39 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,, Sorry but you can't compare something physical to a mindset. racism isnt just a mindset, racism MANIFESTS in discrimination and ACTIONS and INJUSTICES That doesn't disprove my point. If everyone I'm the world decided to change their mindset on racism it's gone overnight. The same can't be said for poverty. poverty is a greed issue if you make x amount but want more for what you provide that raises the price of the product or service you help provide the price of said service or product goes up your fee increase but then the boss adds his increase on your increase thus raising the price to the wholesaler or salesman then the salesman or wholesaler adds their increase to the other increases thus raising the price to the retailer then the the cycle continues and the retailer raises their price now the first guy that got a 3% raise ends up being an increase of 15-20% increase at the retail outlet thus your raise cost you a 17% increase in the cost of living but hey what do i know

InvictusV Joined Sun 11/23/08 Posts: 5282	Mon 10/08/12 02:00 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site..

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/08/12 02:05 PM
Liberals just love keepin racism and anti-semitism alive! yeah, its talking about things like racism and bigotry that keeps them 'alive' hey, why dont we stop talking about poverty too,, see if that makes it disappear,,, Sorry but you can't compare something physical to a mindset. racism isnt just a mindset, racism MANIFESTS in discrimination and ACTIONS and INJUSTICES That doesn't disprove my point. If everyone I'm the world decided to change their mindset on racism it's gone overnight. The same can't be said for poverty. avoiding conversation is not the same as changing mindests,,,

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/08/12 02:21 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. genocide is genocide, what moron needs a link to know common American history? You have a habit of refuting historical facts with nothing. You dont need a link, what you need is a refresher course in American history, simple as that. I need not provide anything no more then you have, the facts of history are facts, take it, or let it alone. KEEP YOUR PERSONAL ATTITUDE AT HOME.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/08/12 02:26 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. [ /quote] indiginous means original inhabitants of a continant. Until youvprove otherwise, the Natives were the original inhabitants of North America, which would obviousely make them indiginous, simple.