Topic: Tonight's Presidential Debate
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 10/04/12 05:20 PM

Goldman Sachs must have paid the Robme coaches better than they did bozos.

The people want change, so Goldman is going to give them Robme.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... nothing will change msH, so no worries if your boy loses because we'll still get the same banker agenda to live by.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 10/04/12 05:20 PM
obama is just going to recycle all of his broken promises from 2008, since he didn't keep any of them anyway...

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 05:21 PM


Goldman Sachs must have paid the Robme coaches better than they did bozos.

The people want change, so Goldman is going to give them Robme.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... nothing will change msH, so no worries if your boy loses because we'll still get the same banker agenda to live by.


I do agree, someone coached the HECK out of Romney and it paid off in the performance.



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Thu 10/04/12 05:24 PM



Goldman Sachs must have paid the Robme coaches better than they did bozos.

The people want change, so Goldman is going to give them Robme.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... nothing will change msH, so no worries if your boy loses because we'll still get the same banker agenda to live by.


I do agree, someone coached the HECK out of Romney and it paid off in the performance.





Yes, even the biased Jim Leher couldnt help Obama cover up his lieslaugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 05:28 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 10/04/12 05:29 PM




Goldman Sachs must have paid the Robme coaches better than they did bozos.

The people want change, so Goldman is going to give them Robme.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... nothing will change msH, so no worries if your boy loses because we'll still get the same banker agenda to live by.


I do agree, someone coached the HECK out of Romney and it paid off in the performance.







Yes, even the biased Jim Leher couldnt help Obama cover up his lieslaugh



both candidates were off on their 'facts'

but Romney got more of his 'facts' in by not following the debate guidelines, interrupting, and talking over his time about whatever he chose instead of the questions asked,,,

he put Obama on the defensive successfully with that technique and he was perceived as the 'stronger' because of it,,,

had OBama done the same, he would have just been seen as a bully/dictator,,,

but thats the nature of the game,,,,

no photo
Thu 10/04/12 05:34 PM

so far it seems to me to be very poorly moderated

obama doesn't seem as articulate as he normally is

romney seems to be more in charge of the debate than the moderator


comment left by CurlyTeach on http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/03/politics/debate-transcript/index.html

Indistinct speech is not recorded on the debate transcripts;
does anyone know why? I am curious because I introduced debate and
presentations to my class last week. This week many students were marked
off for not speaking clearly (using "uh", "um",
"like"). The students were challenged to watch the debate and
track indistinct speech (particularly "uh"). Whether they were
for or against a candidate we found that after 45 minutes Obama had over 55
"uh's"; Romney 4. To make things more interesting we then
tracked ALL indistinct speech for Romney ("uh", "um", or
words said more than once) but only "uh's" for Obama. We quit
after 1 hour- Obama had over 100 instances of "uh" and Romney had 22
instances. I am wondering why indistinct speech is not reflected in
transcripts? I do not have a clear reason for my students. Thoughts?

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 05:43 PM


so far it seems to me to be very poorly moderated

obama doesn't seem as articulate as he normally is

romney seems to be more in charge of the debate than the moderator


comment left by CurlyTeach on http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/03/politics/debate-transcript/index.html

Indistinct speech is not recorded on the debate transcripts;
does anyone know why? I am curious because I introduced debate and
presentations to my class last week. This week many students were marked
off for not speaking clearly (using "uh", "um",
"like"). The students were challenged to watch the debate and
track indistinct speech (particularly "uh"). Whether they were
for or against a candidate we found that after 45 minutes Obama had over 55
"uh's"; Romney 4. To make things more interesting we then
tracked ALL indistinct speech for Romney ("uh", "um", or
words said more than once) but only "uh's" for Obama. We quit
after 1 hour- Obama had over 100 instances of "uh" and Romney had 22
instances. I am wondering why indistinct speech is not reflected in
transcripts? I do not have a clear reason for my students. Thoughts?



preperation, when you prepare what you are going to say, no matter what, instead of trying to listen and respond,,,you are less likely to have 'uh' and 'um',, moments of actual thought


Romney had the run of that 'debate', he was able to speak on and on about whatever he chose, regardless of the question and he stuck to the script on his usual answers with some numbers thrown in for good measure

he had the better performance, because he practiced a better technique

no doubt, his coaches gave him the more productive (in terms of appearance) technique, and that is unusual for OBama to not be better prepared

my thoughts are that he was tired and distracted by his anniversary and the lack of moderation of lack of the structure that was agreed upon before the candidates began to talk

,,,,just my thoughts though


willing2's photo
Thu 10/04/12 06:16 PM





Goldman Sachs must have paid the Robme coaches better than they did bozos.

The people want change, so Goldman is going to give them Robme.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..... nothing will change msH, so no worries if your boy loses because we'll still get the same banker agenda to live by.


I do agree, someone coached the HECK out of Romney and it paid off in the performance.







Yes, even the biased Jim Leher couldnt help Obama cover up his lieslaugh


he put Obama on the defensive


Po wittle Bawwy!!
The po wittle victim of abuse.
That is his style, play victim and blame someone else for his incompetence.

Your two minutes were up a long time ago, Mr President.
That will be a part of his legacy.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 10/04/12 06:23 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 10/04/12 06:29 PM
As with the caucuses, robme probably agreed to a script for the debates, then changed or disregarded the prearranged script for which O was not prepared for, thus making Robme appear to be better prepared. In actuality, he was probably going by a script only he had prepared for, making him look the stronger candidate.

In actuality, these arranged debates are like sitcoms, scripted, and when one of the actors decides to adlib, it throws the whole show out of synch. Even a teleprompter wouldn't have helped if that was the case, but it does show that without a script, O is not as great an orator as many believe.

Face it! If he actually had any factual, knowledgable argument, he would not have simply repeated rhetoric he has used the last 4 years, and would have been able to go on the attack against Robmes abuses.

The debates are a 2 party scam to give the illusion of choice, and it is now apparent who the bankers have chosen for our next POTUS!

Just look at the headlines in the posts today..."Robme Rules" ..... "Obozo drops the ball" ...(not quotes of course) but that is the general appearance put forward.

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 06:28 PM
I believe it was not pre scripted and the questions were not given beforehand, as the noderator explained before the questions

I believe there were 'rules' in place though that Romney straight out the gate ignored,,and I believe he was better coached to have more numbers because of how clueless he has sounded in the past,,,

and it worked for him

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 10/04/12 06:31 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 10/04/12 06:32 PM

I believe it was not pre scripted and the questions were not given beforehand, as the noderator explained before the questions

I believe there were 'rules' in place though that Romney straight out the gate ignored,,and I believe he was better coached to have more numbers because of how clueless he has sounded in the past,,,

and it worked for him


These debates are scripted.... 32 pages or more worth! That's why even the moderator was at a loss for words and didn't have it under control!

To think otherwise is just foolishness

Robme is definately not the stronger candidate! He had to cheat and break the rules.... that's his style!

willing2's photo
Thu 10/04/12 06:42 PM

As with the caucuses, robme probably agreed to a script for the debates, then changed or disregarded the prearranged script for which O was not prepared for, thus making Robme appear to be better prepared. In actuality, he was probably going by a script only he had prepared for, making him look the stronger candidate.

In actuality, these arranged debates are like sitcoms, scripted, and when one of the actors decides to adlib, it throws the whole show out of synch. Even a teleprompter wouldn't have helped if that was the case, but it does show that without a script, O is not as great an orator as many believe.

Face it! If he actually had any factual, knowledgable argument, he would not have simply repeated rhetoric he has used the last 4 years, and would have been able to go on the attack against Robmes abuses.

The debates are a 2 party scam to give the illusion of choice, and it is now apparent who the bankers have chosen for our next POTUS!

Just look at the headlines in the posts today..."Robme Rules" ..... "Obozo drops the ball" ...(not quotes of course) but that is the general appearance put forward.

Bet they got their moneys worth paying o'Bozo to look stupid.
He deserves another award.

no photo
Thu 10/04/12 06:44 PM

I believe it was not pre scripted and the questions were not given beforehand, as the noderator explained before the questions

I believe there were 'rules' in place though that Romney straight out the gate ignored,,and I believe he was better coached to have more numbers because of how clueless he has sounded in the past,,,

and it worked for him


He sounded clueless in the past if you only listen to CNN or MSNBC, the two lowest rated cable news organizations. The questions were given to each candidate beforehand. Sounded really different listening to real responses didn't it? :thumbsup:

willing2's photo
Thu 10/04/12 07:02 PM
Al Gore Blames Obozo Debate Loss on Denver's Thin Air!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFkMzGuhxpY&feature=player_embedded

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Thu 10/04/12 07:05 PM

Al Gore Blames Obozo Debate Loss on Denver's Thin Air!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFkMzGuhxpY&feature=player_embedded

yes, thin air due to global warming.laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 07:06 PM


I believe it was not pre scripted and the questions were not given beforehand, as the noderator explained before the questions

I believe there were 'rules' in place though that Romney straight out the gate ignored,,and I believe he was better coached to have more numbers because of how clueless he has sounded in the past,,,

and it worked for him


He sounded clueless in the past if you only listen to CNN or MSNBC, the two lowest rated cable news organizations. The questions were given to each candidate beforehand. Sounded really different listening to real responses didn't it? :thumbsup:



I dont believe either candidate sounded clueless, they gave logical answers, just not all factually accurate

I also dont believe they had questions before hand and that the moderator sounded out of control because he was supposed to be directing the debate by the questions and the clock, and wasnt able to do either,,,

no photo
Thu 10/04/12 07:12 PM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 10/04/12 07:14 PM



I believe it was not pre scripted and the questions were not given beforehand, as the noderator explained before the questions

I believe there were 'rules' in place though that Romney straight out the gate ignored,,and I believe he was better coached to have more numbers because of how clueless he has sounded in the past,,,

and it worked for him


He sounded clueless in the past if you only listen to CNN or MSNBC, the two lowest rated cable news organizations. The questions were given to each candidate beforehand. Sounded really different listening to real responses didn't it? :thumbsup:



I dont believe either candidate sounded clueless, they gave logical answers, just not all factually accurate

I also dont believe they had questions before hand and that the moderator sounded out of control because he was supposed to be directing the debate by the questions and the clock, and wasnt able to do either,,,

They had the questions before the debate. Too bad Obama couldn't follow the line of the questions even with Leher's help. maybe he will do better next time.
maybe he can use a teleprompter next time.laugh

willing2's photo
Thu 10/04/12 07:14 PM
Edited by willing2 on Thu 10/04/12 07:16 PM
'I got this from a reliable source that Obama lost big time because he ran out of nose candy. Now I can’t tell you who the source is but it’s reliable.

When Gore found out the source said Gore came up with the thin air excuse to ward off anyone that might think that Obama was on a down.


The source, who has firsthand knowledge of private, high-level conversations in the Romney camp that took place in Washington, D.C., last week, said that at various times the GOP intercepted Obama's nose candy leaving him high and dry for the debates.


As predicted;
Barry was not going to get away with his usual style of "playground" humor. He relies on that style at his rallies because he knows most of the people there have childlike minds.

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/04/12 07:22 PM
lol at 'the source'


yeah,, ok,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 10/04/12 07:23 PM

Washington Times.... scripted debates

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/stimulus/2012/oct/2/presidential-debates-scripted-reality/